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It's the Euros 2020! Finals Match Thread: It’s gone to Rome…

Winner Euros 2020

  • England

    Votes: 64 21.6%
  • Belgium

    Votes: 14 4.7%
  • France

    Votes: 98 33.1%
  • Germany

    Votes: 13 4.4%
  • Italy

    Votes: 81 27.4%
  • Portugal

    Votes: 13 4.4%
  • Netherlands

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 11 3.7%

  • Total voters
    296

coypu

Well-Known Member
Aug 21, 2013
391
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Southgate has put the popular players in the first team rather that the players that gel the team. Foden is a cracking player but dying his hair to get noticed is a warning signal that he may be influenced by other matters that doing his best for his country AKA Kane. for fucks sake Kane is THE England player but Southgate doesn't pick the team to suit his strengths.
 

fortworthspur

Well-Known Member
Nov 12, 2007
11,248
17,550
World Rankings, based on qualifying results, against the crappest teams in Europe.
My kids asked my wife why I don’t get worked up for England games.
Tonight they understand why - because, just like Spurs, they flatter to deceive.
over-rated for decades. and I say that as an American who doesnt even bother to support the US national team. I root for Netherlands and England even when we do qualify for the World Cup.
 

Amo

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2013
15,799
31,486
That Hope United ad is straight out of Twin Peaks Season Three.
 

Albertbarich

Well-Known Member
Jul 4, 2020
5,192
19,714
I'd like to know why they are too. ;)
Seriously why? Easy to knock the English but if spurs were playing a team of Scotlands quality you would be expecting us to win.

Take the emotion and shirts out of it, England's players are far far better and should be winning.

I'm about as far from a patriot as you will get but this was the equivalent of Liverpool playing a championship side.
 

Yid-ol

Just-outside Edinburgh
Jan 16, 2006
31,164
19,413
We need to not have James on the pitch fr now on. So many backwards or sideways passes! It was only when Grealish came in did we look to create something, but then didn't have Kane on (though looked poor)
 

Tonio

Good bloke, thorough professional.
May 15, 2008
3,941
6,756
Kane looked like he'd rather be in Ibiza.
What is he supposed to do if he isn't getting the service he needs? I'm reading lots of comments about how shit he is but nobody quantifying that with a good reason??
 

Tucker

Shitehawk
Jul 15, 2013
31,361
146,935
Awful game, neither team played to win at all.
This England team is not set to up to use Kane at all, and yeah he hasn’t been great either

Kane needs to be the main man, he’s not in this setup. Southgate seems to have set the team up to try and showcase Mason Mount’s ability to cut in from the wing and do fuck all, and Phillips and Rice to pass sideways.

He’s such a negative coach. England have some brilliant attacking talent, players on the bench who can change games given the right instruction.

It’s all being wasted under Garry Southgate, and anything this team achieves (And they’ll be lucky to make the QF stage imo) will be in spite of him not because of him.
 

dondo

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Jan 4, 2006
8,603
14,091
How can you be shit if your team doesnt and cannot pass to you? How can you be rubbish if your managers tactics have been piss poor ? How can you be shit if your team mates cant cross the ball?

Almost every time the ball came to him he lost it, Southgate subbed him for a reason.
Don’t get me wrong I love Kane and think he is a great player but when he is having a stinker he has to be subbed like anyone else
 

fortworthspur

Well-Known Member
Nov 12, 2007
11,248
17,550
McManaman defending Harry a little on ESPN - "you could have Diego Maradona up there but if you dont get him the ball with time to do something you're going to struggle".
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
11,351
20,379
England's fans are so entitled.
Entitled to see a better performance and set up than this drivel. Given the talent at his disposal, it takes more effort to nullify it than use it.

Ignore the press, I don't think any fan expects to win the tournament, but personally, I do.expect to see some.entertainong football..... so perhaps.entitled in that respect. Reflecting the players available.
 

Albertbarich

Well-Known Member
Jul 4, 2020
5,192
19,714
We need to not have James on the pitch fr now on. So many backwards or sideways passes! It was only when Grealish came in did we look to create something, but then didn't have Kane on (though looked poor)
James is brilliant but when you set up with that double pivot the whole tempo for the game is set and everyone looked poor.

Blame individuals if you want but the whole team was set up wrong and the tempo was awful ad a result.
 

PCozzie

Well-Known Member
Sep 9, 2020
4,177
19,408
That second half was crying out for DCL. First sub should have been Sterling <> Grealish, then Kane <> DCL, and after that Foden <> Rashford. If nothing else, at least Foden looked interested. Don't understand why he was first off. Oh well.
 

TallBlokePH

Well-Known Member
Aug 11, 2008
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1,044
What a complete waste of 2hrs that was. Woeful from England, positioning was way too rigid and with no movement there were no real passing options for whoever had the ball. Coupled with the painfully slow play that was just an awful game to watch. We'll get fucked by any decent team if that's how we're going to play.
 
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