George94
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Jack Grealish
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spursfan77
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Just watched a few minutes of it and he hasn’t moved beyond a walk yet.
Gb160
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What channel?
nattydredd
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Tottenham ready to open bidding for Jack Grealish at £20m but Aston Villa want DOUBLE following investment
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ham-ready-open-bidding-Jack-Grealish-20m.html
Talks between the clubs are ongoing and Villa's renewed financial strength, thanks to new investment from Egypt, will allow them to demand upwards of £40million.
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Quelle surprise....
#MissedTheBoat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ham-ready-open-bidding-Jack-Grealish-20m.html
Talks between the clubs are ongoing and Villa's renewed financial strength, thanks to new investment from Egypt, will allow them to demand upwards of £40million.
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Quelle surprise....
#MissedTheBoat
Snarfalicious
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If the delay in this is all down to Levy, then he got played pretty good.
yido_number1
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Was on the Birmingham mail website and possibly villas. He just came off. Only watched a little of the second half but has a good eye for an expansive pass and retains possession well
gavspur
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With the Grealish situation, I wonder what’s happened when all ITK’s are saying ‘nearly done’ and yet he starts for Villa again?
This also doesn’t fill me with pride on how we’re pushing for things our way all the time.. If I were a player, like Jack for example, I’d want the buying club to do everything to persuade me that I’m making the right decision to join them.. We’ve had previous with players saying we messed about, most recently I guess was the Barkley haggling, which with his injury, actually went our way, but could easily not have.
This also doesn’t fill me with pride on how we’re pushing for things our way all the time.. If I were a player, like Jack for example, I’d want the buying club to do everything to persuade me that I’m making the right decision to join them.. We’ve had previous with players saying we messed about, most recently I guess was the Barkley haggling, which with his injury, actually went our way, but could easily not have.
ToDarrenIsToDo
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Not being funny but we shouldn't be paying more than £20-£25m on an unproven championship youngster that hasn't taken the next big step by the age of 22 if you ask me.
£40m is a disgusting price to put on the head of a youngster purely based on their potential. Even though I'd love to see a prospect like Grealish sign there's every chance the pace and power of the Premier League could be something he struggles with and I think based on all parties involved and the situations that exist that this deal should be £20m, £25m tops
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tommo84
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Based on him starting another friendly today I’m not convinced this is nearly as much of a formality as some have suggested (even though i’m sure they’ve shared that info in good faith). Weren’t we originally told that Grealish was more of an opportunistic target - rather than someone Poch had always had as a top target - due to Villa’s financial issues meaning we could get him at a knock-down price? If Villa are insisting on £25-30m, then I’m surprised we haven’t called the whole deal off. Him starting again certainly indicates there’s still some negotiating to be done.
I like him and have high hopes for him, but we seem to have played this very badly so that a player we targeted simply because he represented good value and has lots of potential, has become a protracted deal where it’s almost starting to feel like the selling club are getting the better end of bargain. ?
I like him and have high hopes for him, but we seem to have played this very badly so that a player we targeted simply because he represented good value and has lots of potential, has become a protracted deal where it’s almost starting to feel like the selling club are getting the better end of bargain. ?
tiger666
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He has 34 premier league appearances.
ToDarrenIsToDo
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Didn't exactly set the World alight with those appearances though did he? I know he was young but he got 1 goal and 1 assist for his efforts that year. Some players are better at certain levels than others and because of that, Grealish is still unproven at Premier League level and his ability to play at the top and be a top player, which you need to be these days to play for a team like Spurs
Any more than £25m starts to look like a piss take from a team that need/ needed the money. Just how I see it with Grealish and I really want the kid because I believe he could go onto be a star. £40m is quite literally bonkers for a guy that might not make the grade, we'd be buying with the fact he's only come up across Championship level players as he's seemingly got better over the years
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tiger666
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What makes someone proven at premier league level?
rossdapep
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He was gaining lots of interest and plenty of people within the scouting community were starting to sit up and watch him. It's just unfortunate that he got a bit silly and lots of clubs backed off.
spurs4europe
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Do they have to do the deal?
If the choice is 1) selling an asset well below their valuation (and they think they can sell for more later on) or 2) paying a fine and/or taking a transfer ban, then why can't they choose the latter option?
ToDarrenIsToDo
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More than 1 goal & 1 assist as a creative player over the course of a season.
Tammy Abraham smashed goals in for Bristol on loan the year before last yet only scored 5 in the Premier League, playing a huge role as a first team player for a team that got relegated when on loan at Swansea last year. I certainly wouldn't pay £40m for Abraham after his showing against top level talent even though he was being talked about and touted as a prospect and a half the year before last. From 23 goals the year before in the Championship to 5 goals in the Prem shows the quality is a step up, hence I regard Grealish as unproven at Premier League level based on how much people rave about him in the midlands, despite a whole season under his belt when he was a kid.
I'd regard Grealish as being unproven regarding his potential at Premier League level. Villa see him as the next messiah which would command a £40m fee but the facts are that in a whole Premier League season at an age where players like Dele &a Rooney smashed it, Grealish was only able to score 1 goal and create 1 assist for his teammates. He would easily be just another Lee Trundle
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ToDarrenIsToDo
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Teams will still sign talent if they act irresponsibly if the talent is a sure fire hit. I actually really rate the kid I think he has it all to go far, I'm just saying that the step up in class getting past Championship players to Premier Level class is a step that people really need to acknowledge when taking a decision on a footballer. Waltzing past Ben Gibson, John O'Shea & Paddy McNair are a different kettle of fish to the Matic, Kante's & Dembeles of the prem in the top 4. For £40m I'd expect a player that's able to compete from the off (Kane cost £32m, Matic cost £40m etc). £40m for Grealish is too much. His top whack should be £30m at the very, very tops and even that's being too generous to Villa
rossdapep
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You're looking at facts alone and that isn't simply telling you the whole story. We may as well go sign Snodgrass if that was the case.
Grealish isn't the type to score goals aplenty, it's not his job. Were you disappointed in Modric's outlay of goals and assists?
Grealish will be a pivotal player because he can move the ball quicker into attack, he has excellent vision, superb awareness and he can carry the ball into dangerous areas - we currently don't have that other than Eriksen, who I'd say is more of a final third player anyway.
He's got superb technique, and has an attitude similar to Alli in that he is very cocksure about his ability, this is good IMO.
