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seanwhite1961

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Genuine question: Has anyone on Talksport ever been right about any deal ever that hasn't already taken place?
Plenty, mainly the journalists - Honigstein, Terreur, Sid Lowe, Julien Laurens - that occasionally feature. Important to distinguish between people who go on it, and the staff.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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There you go, you said it yourself in the 1st sentence - we made a signing last summer that made an impact on the 1st team (Sanchez). That's all I'm hoping for this summer really. One key signing in central midfield that can make an impact on the 1st team. I'd be happy with that. In my view there is a weakness in that position when you consider the various fitness issues of Winks, Wanyama and Dembele. We did very well last season but one area that was a cause for concern was midfield. Towards the end of the season the team seemed to be running on empty and our midfield was being outmuscled and outplayed where previously we were fairly dominant there. So yes I think one key signing could make a difference.

As to players that are available, I'll be honest - I don't know. But then I'm not a professional scout. I'll leave that to the club :)

This year I fully expect a more well rounded Foyth, Aurier, Winks, Sanchez, I expect and hope Rose is back to his best, we have a fully fit Erik Lamela to add to the cause, a Lucas Moura that we saw have cameo games to get his match fitness up and Wanyama who missed large chunks of the season last time around.

I agree with you 100 % that I'd love to see one or two come in, ideally one to get groomed into the Tottenham philosophy and one pushing the first team from the off but regardless, I do think the team will be stronger in some departments than it was last year without signings being made. I'm sure a club like Tottenham who always invests in the nurturing of players and the team will have a few things going on behind the scenes with 2 weeks left until the season starts and window shuts (y)
 
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Univarn

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Plenty, mainly the journalists - Honigstein, Terreur, Sid Lowe, Julien Laurens - that occasionally feature. Important to distinguish between people who go on it, and the staff.
That's fair. I just see them get mentioned a ton on here and a large portion of the time it's wrong or just stupid. As someone who doesn't listen it makes me curious as to why so many do.
 

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Jack Grealish has agreed a five-year contract worth £55K-per-week with Tottenham Hotspur with a fee now being agreed with Aston Villa. (@fullback03)
 

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Of course it matters - in fact, that's why Poch is a damn magic man, he's one of the few out there that can take the likes of Trippier and make them one of the best players in a World Cup - I, and most likely the majority of fans, had hoped that we for once could go balls out and actually try to nab one of these potentially world class players, cause that's what most of us think we need in order to take that last step that would mean trophies and glory.

We all want the same end result - some of us are happy to keep going the same way we've done, and I don't blame the people that do, seeing that it's worked out amazing with Poch so far, but some of us also see the opportunity we have here with Poch (god forbid he ever moves because of Levy's ways), and would hope for something better than the likes of Sissoko, Nkoudou, Njie and all the other shit - while clubs such as Everton are spending 50m + for players that wouldn't even get into our starting eleven. We easily have the attraction-power to bring in someone like Martial/Kovacic etc, would we actually try to get a somewhat established player for once.
Not sure Martial, Kovacic are in the world-class bracket capable of taking us to the next level in relation to the quality of our squad and the price they want for Martial. Ledley King thinks that Poch will bring only right players for the right price, or we sign nobody. By right players, he means the ones who can work with existing squad, share the same ethics, Poch is big on that. Not an easy task.
 

Univarn

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He posted that the better part of two weeks ago at this point. Was also the first one to start the whole Grealish signing Tuesday this last week nonsense. He makes a lot of claims all framed as itk, and who knows what he really knows, but they change daily and I've yet to ever see anything he says come off.
 

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Pure speculation from my part, but I wonder if the Sissoko deal has made Levy and possibly (no matter how much he tries to build him up in the media) Poch even warier of making snap decisions on players.

Sissoko is the go to name for baiting amongst us fans. For me Sissoko has been a respected professional a real squad player. He has contributed well enough especially in the CL and other big games to be given a level of respect. Pochettinho always seems to trust him in these big games, really utilises Sissoko assist on transition and in multiple position, he is a handy squad player.
 

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Son has 39 goals in two seasons, Zaha rarely scores. Just because he might sign, at triple the price we paid for Son people get excited. Zaha will bring something different, but he won't bring the goals that Son has. I suspect Lucas has more goal scoring potential, as does Martial. Don't think we need him. We need a creator, so we can move the ball quickly, rather than a player who has lots of possession but little end product.
 

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Son has 39 goals in two seasons, Zaha rarely scores. Just because he might sign, at triple the price we paid for Son people get excited. Zaha will bring something different, but he won't bring the goals that Son has. I suspect Lucas has more goal scoring potential, as does Martial. Don't think we need him. We need a creator, so we can move the ball quickly, rather than a player who has lots of possession but little end product.
Ironically you have posted this in the Grealish thread when discussing Zaha - JG is absolutely that creative player that can move the ball quickly. Zaha is different but appears to be who Poch has wanted for years to give us something different to what we already have. If we could add both I think it would be a fantastic window.
 

barry

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The over reactions are due to people being weak and brainwashed by the media and oppositions fans ridiculing us for choosing to keep our powder dry unless the right player is there to bring in. It's that very philosophy that has seen us spend less than everyone else in the top 14/15 teams in the Premier League over the last 4 years yet finish above each and every one of them at least once since Pochettino took over.

I trust the manager and I trust that he isn't like Mourinho or Klopp. If Pochettino isn't 100% about a player who will cost the club a lot he is happy not to pull the trigger and to focus his talents on what he does with his team on the training pitch. Too much Skysports and football manager has made people think the only way you can have success is to buy it. As my brother says to me, this FIFA generation of football fan is filth

When was the last great built team?
Who won the trophies last season, the money teams, or the built teams?
The second paragraph sounds like something Wenger would say to delude himself into thinking his team were improving.
I think it's weak to rest on your laurels and not gamble to try and win something. You're obviously more concerned with lauding it over other clubs about our success relative to our spend.
You want us to be Arsenal post 2004.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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When was the last great built team?
Who won the trophies last season, the money teams, or the built teams?
The second paragraph sounds like something Wenger would say to delude himself into thinking his team were improving.
I think it's weak to rest on your laurels and not gamble to try and win something. You're obviously more concerned with lauding it over other clubs about our success relative to our spend.
You want us to be Arsenal post 2004.

Good morning Barry.

I think that you're missing the point. I would love nothing more than to see Tottenham, the team I've supported through good times and bad all of my life do well and win something. The point I'm making with the fact that we have demonstrated that skill is an asset very few choose to use when identifying natural talent that we are able to mould. We clearly do need to bring in some more talent to keep our progression going but there are so many people worried about what other clubs are doing that we lose sight of how far we've come. We are about to welcome a new dawn at Tottenham that will see us progressively move forward as a club over the next 5-10/20 years and I'm pretty calm when it comes to shiny new toys that aren't as good as we already have.

People harp on about a top class CM replacement for Dembele but very few have been able to give me a genuine example of someone that is available who wants to come to Spurs that fits into the fee bracket that we would realistically spend. The bubble will burst for certain clubs one day and we won't be one of the teams effected by it because we spent over the top on non adequate signings to bolster.

I definitely want us to progress, I couldn't care less about the bottom line but to have seen this transitional period where we virtually double our infrastructure in size yet have 3 years running maintain our position as a top 3 side is a remarkable achievement.

I do think the time has come where we break our transfer record on a real game changer but I do look around and see a relatively limited pool of talent to choose from. £45m for Ndombele, £100m on Milinkovic-Savic etc are extraordinarily big financial gambles that the club would be making.

Looking at our squad I believe we need to be active in finding replacements for Alderweireld, Sissoko, Dembele, Nkoudou, Janssen & Llorente and think that around £150m should be spent on a central defender, 2 central midfielders and a wide forward/attacking midfielder to replace them with but if the club struggle to identify real quality at genuinely realistic fees we'd still be in very good shape going into the season.

I don't buy into this whole you need to buy to win, it's a poison of the modern day world we live in and cuts corners due to panic. I believe that we should spend, but that these players need to fit into Pochettinos belief systems or it could disrupt the team, future transfer budgets and unbalanace us if these signings for big money aren't the right ones.

I'd like fresh faces but and every summer we get ridiculed for our business but people forget that the club have a £1bn investment going on with the Northumberland Development Project so our immediate task becomes harder than the other 19 teams in the league. Until that's paid off, we have a limit other teams don't need to adhere to. As a club we need to hold firm until the right quality player that is attainable is within our sights otherwise it'll be another hefty amount of money spent on the likes of Janssen, Sissoko, Llorente, Nkoudou etc just for the sake of buying. We are now looking to sign game changers, not squad fillers and those are far harder to come by because you have to challenge the likes of Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Real Madrid to get them as opposed to our previous level players that we'd go for where the Valencias, Sevilla's, Lyons etc were being linked. We've gone up a notch and that makes signing the right kind of player even harder for us now.

We have the 2nd biggest stadium in England now, that means so much more than some Taiwanese businessman coming in and having a flash in the pan spend up in order to get success. The stadium is bigger than all the other signings other teams have made, it sets us up to be amongst the big boys for years and years to come.

Signings are required yes, but no panic buys for the money being touted when they may not be as good as the current batch we have
 
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doctor stefan Freud

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Good morning Barry.

I think that you're missing the point. I would love nothing more than to see Tottenham, the team I've supported through good times and bad all of my life do well and win something. The point I'm making with the fact that we have demonstrated that skill is an asset very few choose to use when identifying natural talent that we are able to mould. We clearly do need to bring in some more talent to keep our progression going but there are so many people worried about what other clubs are doing that we lose sight of how far we've come. We are about to welcome a new dawn at Tottenham that will see us progressively move forward as a club over the next 5-10/20 years and I'm pretty calm when it comes to shiny new toys that aren't as good as we already have.

People harp on about a top class CM replacement for Dembele but very few have been able to give me a genuine example of someone that is available who wants to come to Spurs that fits into the fee bracket that we would realistically spend. The bubble will burst for certain clubs one day and we won't be one of the teams effected by it because we spent over the top on non adequate signings to bolster.

I definitely want us to progress, I couldn't care less about the bottom line but to have seen this transitional period where we virtually double our infrastructure in size yet have 3 years running maintain our position as a top 3 side is a remarkable achievement.

I do think the time has come where we break our transfer record on a real game changer but I do look around and see a relatively limited pool of talent to choose from. £45m for Ndombele, £100m on Milinkovic-Savic etc are extraordinarily big financial gambles that the club would be making.

Looking at our squad I believe we need to be active in finding replacements for Alderweireld, Sissoko, Dembele, Nkoudou, Janssen & Llorente and think that around £150m should be spent on a central defender, 2 central midfielders and a wide forward/attacking midfielder to replace them with but if the club struggle to identify real quality at genuinely realistic fees we'd still be in very good shape going into the season.

I don't buy into this whole you need to buy to win, it's a poison of the modern day world we live in and cuts corners due to panic. I believe that we should spend, but that these players need to fit into Pochettinos belief systems or it could disrupt the team, future transfer budgets and unbalanace us if these signings for big money aren't the right ones.

I'd like fresh faces but and every summer we get ridiculed for our business but people forget that the club have a £1bn investment going on with the Northumberland Development Project so our immediate task becomes harder than the other 19 teams in the league. Until that's paid off, we have a limit other teams don't need to adhere to. As a club we need to hold firm until the right quality player that is attainable is within our sights otherwise it'll be another hefty amount of money spent on the likes of Janssen, Sissoko, Llorente, Nkoudou etc just for the sake of buying. We are now looking to sign game changers, not squad fillers and those are far harder to come by because you have to challenge the likes of Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Real Madrid to get them as opposed to our previous level players that we'd go for where the Valencias, Sevilla's, Lyons etc were being linked. We've gone up a notch and that makes signing the right kind of player even harder for us now.

We have the 2nd biggest stadium in England now, that means so much more than some Taiwanese businessman coming in and having a flash in the pan spend up in order to get success. The stadium is bigger than all the other signings other teams have made, it sets us up to be amongst the big boys for years and years to come.

Signings are required yes, but no panic buys for the money being touted when they may not be as good as the current batch we have
Not in the office today?
 

GetSpurredOn

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This year I fully expect a more well rounded Foyth, Aurier, Winks, Sanchez, I expect and hope Rose is back to his best, we have a fully fit Erik Lamela to add to the cause, a Lucas Moura that we saw have cameo games to get his match fitness up and Wanyama who missed large chunks of the season last time around

100% this. Any signings we make have to be the right additions, not just for the sake of adding a body. That's how we end up with players we can't then move back on without taking a big hit, and end up clogging up the squad.
This season, having Rose, Wanyama and Lamela fit, plus maybe Aurier, Llorente and Moura fully settled after a full preseason, I expect an upturn in their input to the side.
FWIW, keeping Dembele isn't a bad thing, allows Onomah and Winks another season to transition alongside him. I also think Toby will stay. That lack of churn could be key, minor additions to improve the balance/depth, not 5/6 additions to bed in late on.
 

Annabel

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Wanyama’s knee is injured again. I’m not sure he’s gonna be fully fit at the start of the season
 

SdB

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Sissoko is the go to name for baiting amongst us fans. For me Sissoko has been a respected professional a real squad player. He has contributed well enough especially in the CL and other big games to be given a level of respect. Pochettinho always seems to trust him in these big games, really utilises Sissoko assist on transition and in multiple position, he is a handy squad player.

Wow. For me Sissoko is a fraud. He's a coward with the ball and without it.
 
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