Jack Grealish

[dtxspurs]

Which has improved since levy took over?

What are we arguing? We both want further investment into the squad.

 

[Chris Flynn]

Its ying and yang with Levy, his negotiation style means it can be tough to get players in but on the other hand it makes people think twice about having a crack at our best player. And yes Bale, but he made it clear he wanted out, and refused to train so we got a world record fee for him. Seems cheap now! Ha ha

 

[yido_number1]

The club got it wrong, simple as that.

Also you’re going back like 10 years to players we signed and including players that don’t really fit into the same category. I’m talking about picking up players like Lascelles, Cook, Gray, etc... All of whom were available for relatively small sums and therefore represent little to no risk

You ruled out Alli because it was better for your arguement and still forget the Dier signing which was the same. Just because we didn't take Madison who chose first team football over us. How many of those players will actually improve us at the peak of their careers? Gray and lascelles are still worse than what we have. Cook looks good but who knows what his ceiling is?

 

[We need another Hoddle]

so you decided to ignore what I said then (both those attempts where early), the only 1 we might of done early is Grealish if we paid way over what we value him and in a lot bigger 1st payment. theres brave then there is being stupid, and Poch said be "Brave". you can't force teams to sell their players

Of course you can't force clubs to sell, on the other side of that, most players have a price the club would sell at. I would imagine Poch gave Levy a list of players he would like, as obviously it's not always possible to get your first choice. He hasn't said to Levy, these are the 3 players I want, there would have been options. Poch wanted any business done as soon as possible, week to go and nothing. I very much doubt it's gone the way Poch was hoping

 

[Lighty64]

Wait so just because I'm a Spurs fan I'm not allowed to want trophies? What kind of shit is that?

we all want trophies, but due to Chelsea, Man U and Man C, the introduction of the CL, PL and Sky (TV money) trophies are bought these days, unless you get the luck of the draw, or fortunate in some cases in the Final.

I started following football at a time when a promoted team sometimes went on to win the league, that will never ever happen again

 

[Lilbaz]

What are we arguing? We both want further investment into the squad.

This started because i replied to wrt who said basically that levy was not good in the transfer market which i disagreed with as he has done very well with the resources he had while also building the training ground and stadium.

If fans (not you specifically) want more resources then that is more a question of ownership than leadership. Which i am open to.

 

[thekneaf]

I dont know why you spammed me he asked a question if anybody had been on record to say they didn't want to negotiate with Levy and I answered the question, I didn't say who was right or wrong.

Fat pub lunch fingers and I've now corrected it. I've never spammed anyone. But you're argument is still weak. You've named two notoriously loud mouth idiots. Ferguson was clearly pissed off that we didn't behave like the good little bitch and role over.

We've got players people covet. We stump up cash when the money is right.

That's why people will continue to deal with us.

 

[Stoof]

Of course you can't force clubs to sell, on the other side of that, most players have a price the club would sell at. I would imagine Poch gave Levy a list of players he would like, as obviously it's not always possible to get your first choice. He hasn't said to Levy, these are the 3 players I want, there would have been options. Poch wanted any business done as soon as possible, week to go and nothing. I very much doubt it's gone the way Poch was hoping

I think the thing that annoys me about the "spend some farkin' money" attitude (not suggesting that's yours, but it seemed like the most logical post to follow on from), is that Levy won't do anything that harms the club. His interests and the club's interests are aligned. So it follows that his interests and Pochettino's interests are also aligned.

They're pulling in the same direction. They're on the same team. I get the sense that some try and create a "club vs. Levy" style rivalry, that everything he does is to deliberately spite the club.

And even if you think he's just in it for the money, again, why would he not want Spurs to succeed? Why would he want to be a chairman of a failing club?

With that always in mind I can never understand the negative; especially when a lot of people just generally don't have a clue about running a multi-million pound business.

 

[Chris Flynn]

You ruled out Alli because it was better for your arguement and still forget the Dier signing which was the same. Just because we didn't take Madison who chose first team football over us. How many of those players will actually improve us at the peak of their careers? Gray and lascelles are still worse than what we have. Cook looks good but who knows what his ceiling is?

I honestly dont understand this attitude (Bware) its the post truth world we live i guess but it alien to me

 

[Bware]

You ruled out Alli because it was better for your arguement and still forget the Dier signing which was the same. Just because we didn't take Madison who chose first team football over us. How many of those players will actually improve us at the peak of their careers? Gray and lascelles are still worse than what we have. Cook looks good but who knows what his ceiling is?

Why are you attacking my argument with things I didn’t do or say? I never ruled out Alli. My point would be that Alli is an exception not the rule and we need to do better in this area.

 

[yido_number1]

I honestly dont understand this attitude (Bware) its the post truth world we live i guess but it alien to me

What attitude? I'm saying we sign the right young players and have a pretty good record at it. Some get away and we regret it but largely we get recruitment right. We've done so well it's hard to improve this squad without spending 70m on players.

Edit missed that you were talking about bware.

 

[Lighty64]

Of course you can't force clubs to sell, on the other side of that, most players have a price the club would sell at. I would imagine Poch gave Levy a list of players he would like, as obviously it's not always possible to get your first choice. He hasn't said to Levy, these are the 3 players I want, there would have been options. Poch wanted any business done as soon as possible, week to go and nothing. I very much doubt it's gone the way Poch was hoping

well if the list includes players we haven't heard about, then perhaps those players weren't available at the time we enquired. the only players that ITK have mentioned we have heard anything about we have also heard they are not available, if your going by the long list of players mentioned by the media then I suggest you stop reading them, because no one knows for definite how they got the links

 

[DFF]

we all want trophies, but due to Chelsea, Man U and Man C, the introduction of the CL, PL and Sky (TV money) trophies are bought these days, unless you get the luck of the draw, or fortunate in some cases in the Final.

I started following football at a time when a promoted team sometimes went on to win the league, that will never ever happen again

Leceister won it the second season after promotion, so not far off.

 

[We need another Hoddle]

I think the thing that annoys me about the "spend some farkin' money" attitude (not suggesting that's yours, but it seemed like the most logical post to follow on from), is that Levy won't do anything that harms the club. His interests and the club's interests are aligned. So it follows that his interests and Pochettino's interests are also aligned.

They're pulling in the same direction. They're on the same team. I get the sense that some try and create a "club vs. Levy" style rivalry, that everything he does is to deliberately spite the club.

And even if you think he's just in it for the money, again, why would he not want Spurs to succeed? Why would he want to be a chairman of a failing club?

With that always in mind I can never understand the negative; especially when a lot of people just generally don't have a clue about running a multi-million pound business.

Of course the club should not be harmed, however to move the club on, a risk on a player might just be the way to go. If you wanna dance, you have to pay the band

Levy has form from past windows, last minute deals for players that will do nothing for the club. How can we possibly be the only club in the PL not to have bought a single player?

 

[SpartanSpur]

I think the thing that annoys me about the "spend some farkin' money" attitude (not suggesting that's yours, but it seemed like the most logical post to follow on from), is that Levy won't do anything that harms the club. His interests and the club's interests are aligned. So it follows that his interests and Pochettino's interests are also aligned.

They're pulling in the same direction. They're on the same team. I get the sense that some try and create a "club vs. Levy" style rivalry, that everything he does is to deliberately spite the club.

And even if you think he's just in it for the money, again, why would he not want Spurs to succeed? Why would he want to be a chairman of a failing club?

With that always in mind I can never understand the negative; especially when a lot of people just generally don't have a clue about running a multi-million pound business.

For me I just think he can't quite help himself in screwing everything out of every deal e.g if he thinks dragging a move out will save him money, he 100% will. Sometimes a bit of compromise can be beneficial. I really wanted Grealish done before the US tour, I imagine Poch did too. We're not talking an insane money deal here. Would smoothing it through have really harmed the club?

He's unquestionably a brilliant chairman, and I have no doubts he wants the best for the club and isn't in it for the money (I'm sure he could make more money in a much less stressful environment if he wanted), but I do really think he needs a sporting director to help him out on transfers to smooth some deals through. I highly doubt Poch simply nods his head and goes along with everything Levy does just because he respects him and knows his heart is in the right place.

 

[Chris Flynn]

What attitude? I'm saying we sign the right young players and have a pretty good record at it. Some get away and we regret it but largely we get recruitment right. We've done so well it's hard to improve this squad without spending 70m on players.

Edit missed that you were talking about bware.

i was backing you up bro! Haha

 

[We need another Hoddle]

well if the list includes players we haven't heard about, then perhaps those players weren't available at the time we enquired. the only players that ITK have mentioned we have heard anything about we have also heard they are not available, if your going by the long list of players mentioned by the media then I suggest you stop reading them, because no one knows for definite how they got the links

Im not going on anything in the press, or on here. It's obvious any list would have choices

 

[Lilbaz]

Of course the club should not be harmed, however to move the club on, a risk on a player might just be the way to go. If you wanna dance, you have to pay the band

Levy has form from past windows, last minute deals for players that will do nothing for the club. How can we possibly be the only club in the PL not to have bought a single player?

Levy has said that the price of players is unsustainable. He belives that the current prices are a bubble and that bubble will burst so is only willing to pay what he believes 1/ we can afford and 2/ what is good value. He's waiting. European clubs know that next thursday the value of their players comes crashing down. Levy has shown with moura there is still good value to get in this market. We've just got to hope that he is right.

 

[George94]

From what I can only assume are VillaTalk's ITK from the way people on the forum react to them:

"Myself and @AvfcRigo82 say he's going nowhere, enough said chaps.

*He's really not going anywhere boys and girls."

"True and talking of money, Jack is odds of 5/2 to stay at Villa. Easy money!"

 

[Lilbaz]

From what I can only assume are VillaTalk's ITK from the way people on the forum react to them:

"Myself and @AvfcRigo82 say he's going nowhere, enough said chaps.

*He's really not going anywhere boys and girls."

"True and talking of money, Jack is odds of 5/2 to stay at Villa. Easy money!"

Villa have to find £40-45m by the end of the transfer window through wage cuts or player sales. They've sold a few and released others. They got £13m from sales and their wages will have come down a bit as terry etc... are gone. Not sure if new owners are allowed a one off investment (they are in the prem). But still think they need to sell someone.