Jermain Jenas

[sim0n]

Move him to right fullback. Zambrotta started out with Udinese as an attacking centre mid and converted to fullback, so why not JJ? He's a great athelete with a good workrate. He's played there a few times under Jol and looked comfortable enough (switched there in the second half of a few games). Better than cutting him loose for a small fee...

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm a season ticket holder, go home and away including all European games. Does that mean I dont know what I'm talking about? It seems a midfielder who has contributed, whether you like it or not, to our success in the last few years is deemed not good enough now for some.

He must be some magician to have pulled the wool over the eyes of Capello, Jol, Ramos, HR, Sir Bobby Robson, to name but a few who kept on picking him.....

It's certainly true that managers, however great, can have an inexplicable preference for a player fans regard as poor. We used to joke that Johnny Pratt had to be Bill Nicholson's love child (and anyone who thinks Jenas is poor isn't old enough to remember Pratty). But when you get several managers, at different clubs, rating a player that fans slag off, one has to concede that they know and see altogether more than us lot who manage from our armchairs.

Jenas is a hugely frustrating player—very few would dispute that. Could this be something to do with the fact that neither Jol nor Ramos really defined a role for him? What, exactly, are we expecting of him? And those who slate him are left to explain that rather annoying statistic that we tend to do better when he's playing than when he isn't. It may not be obvious why we do, but we do, nevertheless.

 

[Zapsta]

JJ, like Carrick, will only be appreciated when he's gone.

No.

 

[Khilari]

No.

I would have agreed with the previous poster last season (when we lacked drive without JJ), but with Modric in the side I think for now we probably won't miss him much

 

[stemark44]

The people that slate Jenas constantly compare him to the likes of Gerrard,Lampard,Carrick, and Fabregas.If he was that good,he would be playing for a top side and worth £30/40 million.
Compare him to the rest of OUR midfielders and he is easily the best.He can play in every midfield position and any formation.4-4-2/4-2-3-1/4-5-1/4-4-1-1/4-3-3
If we are looking to sell players then I would be looking to get rid of at least a dozen other players from our 1st team squad before even considering selling Jenas!

 

[stemark44]

Move him to right fullback. Zambrotta started out with Udinese as an attacking centre mid and converted to fullback, so why not JJ? He's a great athelete with a good workrate. He's played there a few times under Jol and looked comfortable enough (switched there in the second half of a few games). Better than cutting him loose for a small fee...

I don't disagree with your suggestion but for Spurs I think Zokora should be moved to right back permanently.

However If Jenas is serious about a World Cup place with England then I do think he should try his hand at right back as I can't see him getting a place in their team in midfield!

 

[Defsta]

ray:ray:ray:

seconded :lol:

 

[Rackybear]

He's an all rounder. Most midfielders excel in one part of their game, you get the defensive midfielders who are really good at tackling, breaking up play, reading the game well and being disciplined enough to sit in front of the back four (Mascherano, Carrick, Hargreaves, Essien, Mikel); and you get the attacking ones who time their runs well, can shoot very well and pass well (Scholes, Lampard, Arteta etc..). Then you get special players like Gerrard who can do pretty much any job in midfield to an exceptional standard (great shot, great going forward, solid tackler, pacey, agressive and a quality passer).

Where does JJ fall?

He falls into the category of being able to do everything a midfielder probably needs to possess. A bit like gerrard, but whilst he is exceptional at most parts of his game, JJ is simply 'better then most / higher then average' in these departments. He can shoot but doesn't have the best shot in the world, he can pass but doesn't really set the world on fire, he can tackle but doesn't always put himself about etc..

An all action midfielder if you like. His problem is consistency, some times he is brilliant, but others he can be so painful to watch. Even then, you notice his absence when he is not in the team.

He is our best all round midfielder - so selling him would actually be stupid.

 

[DC_Boy]

The people that slate Jenas constantly compare him to the likes of Gerrard,Lampard,Carrick, and Fabregas.If he was that good,he would be playing for a top side and worth £30/40 million.
Compare him to the rest of OUR midfielders and he is easily the best.He can play in every midfield position and any formation.4-4-2/4-2-3-1/4-5-1/4-4-1-1/4-3-3
If we are looking to sell players then I would be looking to get rid of at least a dozen other players from our 1st team squad before even considering selling Jenas!

well said Stemark - have some rep

whoops apparently have you repped you too often recently (maybe more JJ stuff?)

anyway have some virtual rep

 

[BringBack_leGin]

It's certainly true that managers, however great, can have an inexplicable preference for a player fans regard as poor. We used to joke that Johnny Pratt had to be Bill Nicholson's love child (and anyone who thinks Jenas is poor isn't old enough to remember Pratty). But when you get several managers, at different clubs, rating a player that fans slag off, one has to concede that they know and see altogether more than us lot who manage from our armchairs.

Jenas is a hugely frustrating player—very few would dispute that. Could this be something to do with the fact that neither Jol nor Ramos really defined a role for him? What, exactly, are we expecting of him? And those who slate him are left to explain that rather annoying statistic that we tend to do better when he's playing than when he isn't. It may not be obvious why we do, but we do, nevertheless.

my dad hated pratt cos burkinshaw kept picking him ahead of hoddle

 

[Mullers]

If Ramos does that the Real Madrid fans will have his head on a stick. :rofl:

 

[worcestersauce]

totally agree with you it scares the shit out of me how little some posters understand about football on this site

I repeat my earlier statement

"unbefuckinglievable"

 

[teddy_sheringham_125]

I wouldn't want us to sell him as I'm a fan of JJ (no I don't need any stick thanks), but any player outside of Man Utd, Chelsea (and poss Liverpool and Man city) has a price on their head. If someone offers silly money for them then they are off, simple as that. That price for Jenas? I'd say about £20 million.

 

[west indie]

since old arry has arrived i swear woody has taken over the vice captaincy now as he had the armband before jenas got injured? i would luv it, luv it if arry could prise palacios off wigan he would be an immence signing adding power to centre mid?

The fact he's so inconsistant still at 26 i wouldnt be upset if he was sold...

 

[$hoguN]

If madrid wanted him Levy would want over £20million for him im sure

 

[Alfieconnman]

If madrid wanted him Levy would want over £20million for him im sure

Now that would be a good piece of business :rofl:

 

[mil1lion]

After thinking more about it i'd actually like us to keep Jenas. With Appiah and Zokora going to the African Cup Of Nations i think we need the extra cover. Its just whether or not Jenas would be happy with more of a squad role. He might want to move when we finally get a holding midfielder to partner Modric or Appiah, or both.

Modric>Appiah>New Holding Midfielder>Jenas>Zokora>Huddlestone
That does make Huddlestone look a long way down but he has the technical game over Jenas and Zokora so he would cover for Modric, Zokora would cover for Appiah and Jenas would cover for a new holding midfielder.

 

[DC_Boy]

Hi million - I wouldn't worry about JJ's squad role it won't happen

he's a key mid for us and will continue to be so

if for some bizarre reason he wasn't seen as a key player, of course he'd be off

there'd be plenty of teams higher than us in the lge who'd want him and plenty of continental teams too

 

[THOWIG]

Hi million - I wouldn't worry about JJ's squad role it won't happen

he's a key mid for us and will continue to be so

if for some bizarre reason he wasn't seen as a key player, of course he'd be off

there'd be plenty of teams higher than us in the lge who'd want him and plenty of continental teams too

There really isn't mate.

 

[mil1lion]

Hi million - I wouldn't worry about JJ's squad role it won't happen

he's a key mid for us and will continue to be so

if for some bizarre reason he wasn't seen as a key player, of course he'd be off

there'd be plenty of teams higher than us in the lge who'd want him and plenty of continental teams too

I'd be worried if that were the case. Dont get me wrong, i like Jenas. And i actually agree totally that he's one of our best midfielders. I'd also say that we have more important areas to improve before we start replacing our current 1st team players.

But looking at the bigger picture. We look likely to sign Appiah next week. If he returns to the player he was before he was injured then he'll be top class. Possibly even world class. Modric is already a very good player and sometimes great. And yet neither is a typical holding midfielder. Modric is a technical ball player. Appiah is a box to box midfielder.

So we still need a holding midfielder in my mind. If we could get someone like Inler, then Jenas would drop further down the pecking order. Although he'd actually be 2nd choice behind Appiah as the box to box midfielder. The same could be said for Zokora.

Like i say, i hope he does stay. I just cant see him being our 1st choice midfielder in the long run. Who knows, maybe the extra competition will bring the best out of Jenas, and he could keep his 1st team spot.