Joško Gvardiol

[mil1lion]

Need our scouts to start doing better. By the time these guys get to be 75-100M players, it’s always going to be too late for us.

Like signing Udogie and Spence and Sarr and Gil

 

[mr ashley]

We are competing though? Top 4 last season and aiming for at least that this season. Considering we aren't owned by a country like several of our competitors I'd say we are doing just fine.

Neither Liverpool nor Chelsea are owned by a country!
They’re owned by investment groups… who invest!

 

[robotsonic]

Neither Liverpool nor Chelsea are owned by a country!
They’re owned by investment groups… who invest!

Try telling Liverpool fans/Klopp that they invest right now!

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

All I want is the best for the club and the league this season is open. If we were to just bring in a couple more quality additions right now I truly would believe we could win it, certainly a trophy or perhaps more. On topic, I do like Gvardiol but I can see why the club wouldn't want to pay out that high for him.

 

[mr ashley]

Try telling Liverpool fans/Klopp that they invest right now!

There is only ever one thing to tell Liverpool fans: Fuck off

 

[Chirpystheman]

Asset has a voice mate. If he only wants Spurs then no, he doesn’t go to the highest bidder.

And why would he only want spurs if he has the whole footballing world at his feet. You put too much faith in players. Even Kane wanted to leave us. Yet you think lenglet or Bastoni will be desperate to play for us over one of the elite trophy winning juggernauts of World football

 

[Chirpystheman]

But that isn't the way to build the squad. You don't try and just sign somebody because they're better than the worse you have, you try and sign players better that are better than what you have i.e in this instance, we need to sign somebody who is better than Davies and Lenglet in that role. Just signing people for the sake of it because they edge out Tanganga is a waste of resources.

But lenglet is a stop gap and doesn't appear to be a clear upgrade on Davies so why sign him going by your squad building logic. Bastoni was clearly first choice. Not obtainable. Skriniar is obtainable for example. Bremer was obtainable. Martinez was obtainable. Forfana was obtainable. Koulibaly was obtainable. The point is we needed 2 CBs we have bought in 1 stop gap loan. Yet this is being excused. Why is our transfer business at CB acceptable.

 

[Nerine]

Soooo much reactionary, brainless garbage in this thread.

 

[gibbospurs]

I get that, but I’m 40 in November and I’m worried I’ll die before we win anything.

Maybe you should of started supporting us earlier then? I’m 46 and I’ve seen us lift a couple ?

 

[Chirpystheman]

Did we have an obligation on Romero? Not sure, but others will confirm. Out of interest what do you think was the main objective for the club this preseason and are you happy with what we did in the transfer market?

Romero at the time was definitely reported with an obligation. And even announced that he had signed a 5 year deal. It was done similarly to lo celso deal. I'm assuming it was for creative accounting purposes to screw someone out of a fee

I am content with our summer business. Do I think we have addressed the majority of our issues....No. I believe the objective of the club was to give our squad more balance and depth while improving the team.

We had glaring issues within our squad last season. Primarily at FB and It's half been addressed. I'd also say creativity was an issue. This has not been addressed.

Skipp and Romero have both missed more games than they have started in the last season and a bit. Yet we don't seem too concerned about this as a club which is a worry. We are now keeping Sarr due to lack of CM options. We had so much early optimism. The injection which in reality has only been half spent.

I just think due to the number of games this season and the world cup we needed a bit more. We have only signed 1 player that is 100% a nailed on starter and he's nearing the end of his career. You have 200m to spend before adding in your actual budget it's a little underwhelming

 

[Chirpystheman]

We went for a smart and stable summer and I'm fully here for that.

You bring up Ndombele who is our record signing. Fairly recent proof from us that just spending money on players isn't always the right thing. They've gotta be the right fit and profile. Before that we spent on Sanchez as our record signing and again... spending lots money =/= mean we are gonna get the best players.

Looking at our rivals, a lot of us can see the money Man Utd have spent and general consensus is that they've MASSIVELY overspent. Arsenal have had a very good window but like us, have a few places they still need to improve on. Chelsea still don't have a striker. Liverpool are going through an injury crisis and generally seem to be lacking depth in their CM. So its only country backed Man City who seem to be spending and have a squad that seems pretty well stocked.

Sure, I think our squad could do with a few more additions and want us to add a few, but I also don't want us to spend for the sake of spending. I think none of us here were saying we should spend 90mil on Gvardiol, Bastoni just isn't gonna happen seemingly. We've had a few other CBs we've looked at but ultimately I'd imagine a lot seem like more shorter terms buys than long term (at least what's possible right now). Thus we got Lenglet as a short term (loan) who could possibly be more if it all clicks.

As for what the majority of our fanbase was screaming for... is this the same fanbase that screams at every single starting lineup? Or wants Spence to be starting a lot cause there were a lot of fans on here who were VERY Pro-Spence when we were signing him and were suggesting he walks into our first team. No offence to us but, myself included, the majority of our fanbase are idiots. Lovely idiots but idiots nonetheless.

I bought up ndombele because someone said we bought some prospects this summer. I pointed to the fact that we should be last signing prospects and listed the last 5 prospects we signed. Just think with the supposed budget we had. We should have aimed a little higher with our purchases.

You point to all those other clubs. All those other clubs are still actively trying to sign players. All the sounds coming out of spurs are we are done. He certainly tanganga and sarr now staying and the best we can hope for is Dan James on loan or adama.

I do respect others opinions though we all want what's best for our club and hope we win the lot.

 

[gibbospurs]

Jesus. Stop with moaning about this guy. If he wants to go to Chelsea then fuck him. We’re gonna be way above those fuckers tomorrow evening. Sold all their forwards and replaced with Sterling. Idiots. I think we could of done more this window but we now have a squad of players who want to be here and want to win a spot in the starting line up.

 

[Chirpystheman]

It's a bit of a reach to call Perisic and Bissouma "decent" to try and make the window sound more shit I think that we were crying out for a top quality LWB and CM also, given Winks, Ndombele and Lo Celso were deemed surplus. I think having an expectation, especially at Spurs, that we can solve every position in one window is setting yourself up for a fall from the outset imo.

Perisic is 33. However he is very good. Untested in the league and could be some concerns over motivation and how long he has in the tank. Esp in a conte system. I'm not going to say he's an exceptional buy as there isn't the longevity there. Cucurella for example would have been a very good buy as could have been LB for the next 7-8 years.

Bissouma is again a good signing. However he doesn't offer us anything majorly different from what we had. PEH tops the charts in tackles ball recoveries and passages of play that lead to a shot. Bentancur is very good positionally and calmness our midfield requires. He's also disciplined in the press and the two have decent understanding. Now bissouma might prove to be a massive upgrade. But no one can say that he defo is. He's not an assist or goal machine. bentancur has 2 more assists than him in 90 less games and only 1 less goal contribution overall and PEH had 6 more goal contributions in 40 less games.

Same as richarlison is a good signing but he's back up. So can't be called an exceptional or great signing when his primary function is back up. Decent signings are still good things they are just not exceptional signings

 

[hamsup_sotong]

But lenglet is a stop gap and doesn't appear to be a clear upgrade on Davies so why sign him going by your squad building logic. Bastoni was clearly first choice. Not obtainable. Skriniar is obtainable for example. Bremer was obtainable. Martinez was obtainable. Forfana was obtainable. Koulibaly was obtainable. The point is we needed 2 CBs we have bought in 1 stop gap loan. Yet this is being excused. Why is our transfer business at CB acceptable.

this is so meh.

we need squad backups so lenglet was signed.

Brenner chose inter over us.

even fecking psg deem skriniar too expensive.

fofana is a chelski fan and only wants them

no way we pay that fee and wages for a 31 yr old with little shelf life and is probably at the tail end of his prime.

All this throwing of the toys out the pram is getting exhausting. Point is we'll know whether conte is backed or not if he walks. If he does , then feck enic. Until then, let's see

 

[SandroClegane]

Perisic is 33. However he is very good. Untested in the league and could be some concerns over motivation and how long he has in the tank. Esp in a conte system. I'm not going to say he's an exceptional buy as there isn't the longevity there. Cucurella for example would have been a very good buy as could have been LB for the next 7-8 years.

Bissouma is again a good signing. However he doesn't offer us anything majorly different from what we had. PEH tops the charts in tackles ball recoveries and passages of play that lead to a shot. Bentancur is very good positionally and calmness our midfield requires. He's also disciplined in the press and the two have decent understanding. Now bissouma might prove to be a massive upgrade. But no one can say that he defo is. He's not an assist or goal machine. bentancur has 2 more assists than him in 90 less games and only 1 less goal contribution overall and PEH had 6 more goal contributions in 40 less games.

Same as richarlison is a good signing but he's back up. So can't be called an exceptional or great signing when his primary function is back up. Decent signings are still good things they are just not exceptional signings

So which "exceptional" signing could we have made? Based on everything we've seen on the market this window we've done quite well. There aren't many purchases other teams have made that we should be jealous of.

 

[DiamondLites]

I’m of the opinion we have a had a very good window with some shrewd business, but it is a bit deflating seeing these scumbags spending an obscene amount of money when we were hoping those days were behind them. Most of what they have signed is overpriced toss, but Gvardiol is someone we wanted and would improve us exponentially so this one stings a bit

 

[ButchCassidy]

Perisic is 33. However he is very good. Untested in the league and could be some concerns over motivation and how long he has in the tank. Esp in a conte system. I'm not going to say he's an exceptional buy as there isn't the longevity there. Cucurella for example would have been a very good buy as could have been LB for the next 7-8 years.

Bissouma is again a good signing. However he doesn't offer us anything majorly different from what we had. PEH tops the charts in tackles ball recoveries and passages of play that lead to a shot. Bentancur is very good positionally and calmness our midfield requires. He's also disciplined in the press and the two have decent understanding. Now bissouma might prove to be a massive upgrade. But no one can say that he defo is. He's not an assist or goal machine. bentancur has 2 more assists than him in 90 less games and only 1 less goal contribution overall and PEH had 6 more goal contributions in 40 less games.

Same as richarlison is a good signing but he's back up. So can't be called an exceptional or great signing when his primary function is back up. Decent signings are still good things they are just not exceptional signings

So in summary:

• Our world class lwb, best in Serie A last season, isn’t a great signing because he won’t be our lwb in seven years time;
• Our top-10-in-the-PL midfielder isn’t a great signing because he’s only excellent at the things our manager wants our midfielders to do;
• And our 15-goal-per-season rotation striker isn’t a great signing because golden boot winner Heung-Min Son might be a better player.

Almost sounds silly when you write it out doesn’t it?

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Do you really believe that? It's ALWAYS next summer. It was supposed to be this summer....

What did we need this season though? A world Cup midway through season that, starting from now until November, bar an international break sees us and most other teams around us playing once every 3 days.

We needed depth, it was abundantly clear we did when you look at our bench 90% of the time last season. We've got a first XI that can compete, our form in 2022 proves that but with no depth, I juries and fatigue slaughter us.

We have the depth required now, the next phase will be to plug holes where holes need plugging the most and that would inevitably be an upgrade on quality based on how this season goes. The only player we need to potentially replace soon realistically is Lloris (Perisic I don't count due to us planning ahead with Udogie)

We have completed that painful rebuild Poch spoke of, no need for 8 more in, its 2-4 in and we are there or thereabouts.

It's been a great window and whilst a CB such as Gvardiol would have been the dream, 90m just isn't what we can or should be doing. The key for us is finding the next Gvardiol before the likes of RB do. We are in a good place at present, let's enjoy it after what could have been if we hadn't got top 4 last season and keep the momentum going.

 

[ChaoticBeaver]

So in summary:

• Our world class lwb, best in Serie A last season, isn’t a great signing because he won’t be our lwb in seven years time;
• Our top-10-in-the-PL midfielder isn’t a great signing because he’s only excellent at the things our manager wants our midfielders to do;
• And our 15-goal-per-season rotation striker isn’t a great signing because golden boot winner Heung-Min Son might be a better player.

Almost sounds silly when you write it out doesn’t it?

Naughty naughty, don’t you start trying to confuse things with your education

Perisic is 33, which means his bones are basically dust

Yves hasnt done anything so far, he’s always just been sitting down and comes on for a few minutes - Lazy

The ball from Richarlison the other day was outrageous, showing off like that is not the Tottenham way

All 3 bad signings, Pat and Levy have really fluffed the oven this time around

 

[leffe186]

Like signing Udogie and Spence and Sarr and Gil

…and Romero, and Kulu, and Bentancur tbh.