Jobe Bellingham

[Powder Keg]

Mate of mine is a Birmingham season ticket holder, so I asked him if Jobe is any good. Here’s what he said:

“Difficult to tell. He can’t get anywhere near our first XI atm so depends whether he develops. 17 still very young but he struggles cos of the comparison to Jude (and is almost certainly also hyped because of it).

My guess would be he will end up as a mid-table level Championship player (so whoever signs him we’ll probably get him back in 3-4 years).

Whereas the first time I saw Jude play when he was 15 I compared him to Zidane…”

So not all that glowing. He is very young though.

 

[HildoSpur]

Mate of mine is a Birmingham season ticket holder, so I asked him if Jobe is any good. Here’s what he said:

“Difficult to tell. He can’t get anywhere near our first XI atm so depends whether he develops. 17 still very young but he struggles cos of the comparison to Jude (and is almost certainly also hyped because of it).

My guess would be he will end up as a mid-table level Championship player (so whoever signs him we’ll probably get him back in 3-4 years).

Whereas the first time I saw Jude play when he was 15 I compared him to Zidane…”

So not all that glowing. He is very young though.

Thanks for that. I think he has had 15 first team appearances so far this season though maybe a lot of those have been from the bench.

 

[Powder Keg]

Thanks for that. I think he has had 15 first team appearances so far this season though maybe a lot of those have been from the bench.

Yes I think so. Maybe 2 starts someone posted? My pal did go on to say that there aren’t many 17 year olds in Championship first team squads so maybe he’s being harsh on him.

Either way he will take considerable development it seems!

 

[Trotter]

How many have made it at any club….

Well loads obviously otherwise every player in the league would be 35 now

 

[spursfan77]

Sounds like nobody wants to miss out on him just in case

 

[Nayim60yards]

Is this our way of getting Jude too? I mean excellent stuff if possible.

Nah, it's just the Jobe....

 

[cjsimba]

Sounds like nobody wants to miss out on him just in case

So they’re both joining us now? Nice

 

[Hotspur33]

Mate of mine is a Birmingham season ticket holder, so I asked him if Jobe is any good. Here’s what he said:

“Difficult to tell. He can’t get anywhere near our first XI atm so depends whether he develops. 17 still very young but he struggles cos of the comparison to Jude (and is almost certainly also hyped because of it).

My guess would be he will end up as a mid-table level Championship player (so whoever signs him we’ll probably get him back in 3-4 years).

Whereas the first time I saw Jude play when he was 15 I compared him to Zidane…”

So not all that glowing. He is very young though.

I work with a pair of ‘blue noses’ and by coincidence asked him how Jobe was getting on and he said similar to your mate.
I guess at this point he has got potential. But I’m just pleased we are seeing this kind of recruitment happening again. We have struggled with the home grown quota recently, and taking chances on young players before they become inaccessible to us is key to competing with the wealthiest clubs.
Obviously Conte isn’t the ideal coach for that, but he won’t be here forever.

 

[TC18]

Can’t see Birmingham selling him. What will we realistically offer? £15m and a 2 year loan?

They will likely take the gamble that he could be worth double that in a few years anyway, and I can’t see Jobe demanding to leave to come to us.

Hope I’m wrong, but it’s good that we are looking at these youngsters with huge potential.

 

[ButchCassidy]

Can’t see Birmingham selling him. What will we realistically offer? £15m and a 2 year loan?

They will likely take the gamble that he could be worth double that in a few years anyway, and I can’t see Jobe demanding to leave to come to us.

Hope I’m wrong, but it’s good that we are looking at these youngsters with huge potential.

They’re in some financial trouble and might not feel secure enough taking a risk like that… all depends on the terms I imagine.

Birmingham City's financial situation laid bare as accounts are published

Birmingham City Football Club plc's latest accounts have confirmed the worrying dependence on the club's owners and the impact of Jude Bellingham's sale

www.birminghammail.co.uk

 

[fecka]

I remember Eden Hazard and others hyping up Thorgan Hazard as infinitely more talented than Eden back in the day.
It feels like there could be a similar case here where Birmingham and Jude's family hype Jobe up in order to get him a good move and improve his chances of a good career.
When Jude was 17 he was dominating the championship, Jobe is by all accounts way behind in that department and while that isn't necessarily a disparagement of his overall talent, it makes it a bit harder to claim that he would be more talented than Jude IMO, no?

 

[Hotspur88]

I remember Eden Hazard and others hyping up Thorgan Hazard as infinitely more talented than Eden back in the day.
It feels like there could be a similar case here where Birmingham and Jude's family hype Jobe up in order to get him a good move and improve his chances of a good career.
When Jude was 17 he was dominating the championship, Jobe is by all accounts way behind in that department and while that isn't necessarily a disparagement of his overall talent, it makes it a bit harder to claim that he would be more talented than Jude IMO, no?

Yes would be stupid to compare the two because every player is different in their development. The lad is talented though with some big clubs sniffing around. I'm just delighted we are finally looking to snap up young talent again. Keep plugging away in that department whilst strengthening the first team with the likes of Porro etc.

 

[Cel]

I remember Eden Hazard and others hyping up Thorgan Hazard as infinitely more talented than Eden back in the day.
It feels like there could be a similar case here where Birmingham and Jude's family hype Jobe up in order to get him a good move and improve his chances of a good career.
When Jude was 17 he was dominating the championship, Jobe is by all accounts way behind in that department and while that isn't necessarily a disparagement of his overall talent, it makes it a bit harder to claim that he would be more talented than Jude IMO, no?

It does seem an unreasonably high bar though to set? Jude is looking like a generational player - there's going to be a handful on the planet better than him?

 

[StanSpur]

It does seem an unreasonably high bar though to set? Jude is looking like a generational player - there's going to be a handful on the planet better than him?

100% agree with this. Its like saying Ronald's son is not as good as Ronaldo - of course he won't be. Jobe is unlikely to ever be a good as Jude as I think Jude is a phenom. It doesn't mean Jobe will be a bad player. The Hazard comparison is a good one. Thorgan is a very good player but won't hit the heights of Eden, and that is ok!

 

[Trix]

It does seem an unreasonably high bar though to set? Jude is looking like a generational player - there's going to be a handful on the planet better than him?

All through the youth age groups the general consensus was that Jobe was the more talented player or certainly the player with more ability at their respective age groupls. There have been question marks over his drive/desire/will to get to the very top which Jude has in abundance. I'm not saying he doesn't have the right mentality just that this is where Jude really stood out. He wants to be the very best and nothing is going top stop him so to speak.

Like the old saying goes 10% ability 90% mentality.

 

[rossdapep]

All through the youth age groups the general consensus was that Jobe was the more talented player or certainly the player with more ability at their respective age groupls. There have been question marks over his drive/desire/will to get to the very top which Jude has in abundance. I'm not saying he doesn't have the right mentality just that this is where Jude really stood out. He wants to be the very best and nothing is going top stop him so to speak.

Like the old saying goes 10% ability 90% mentality.

I've met at least 2 ex-players who told me the same and that their brother was more talented but struggled with the mental aspect.

It must be quite common when you have two equally talented kids. One has elite mentality but the other struggles.

 

[tubbygold]

All through the youth age groups the general consensus was that Jobe was the more talented player or certainly the player with more ability at their respective age groupls. There have been question marks over his drive/desire/will to get to the very top which Jude has in abundance. I'm not saying he doesn't have the right mentality just that this is where Jude really stood out. He wants to be the very best and nothing is going top stop him so to speak.

Like the old saying goes 10% ability 90% mentality.

Don't have to look very far to see the perfect example of that - Tanguy of course.

Of course less of a gamble with a youth player, but mentality is definitely a hard thing to change.

 

[ukdy]

My Birmingham CIty mate said about him:

He’s not had the start Jude had has as he’s been protected.. but a very good player. I’d be surprised if we sell him this window. He needs a solid season in championship next season then see how he goes.

Not sure if he’s as talented as Jude just yet as he’s not really been tested, but he’s definitely a baller! He’s been used only a sub for like 15 mins . He needs another season or two to really see his development. I’ve heard he isn’t going anywhere soon. I hope we keep him and get some value in a few seasons

Think Sunderland offered us a few million for Bellingham in the summer … we told them to fuck off

Contract at BCFC expires summer 2024. If we do go for him, I think it's a buy-and-loan-back deal.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

And why would Dortmund develop a talent for Spurs?

“Special relationship” ?

 

[gavspur]

2nd child. It’s a rough road.