Joey Barton Anyone?

[hybridsoldier]

average footballer who has pushed man city single handidly into mid table, and broken into the england squad despite all these problems off the field.

he is very very talented, is someone had found and tamed him about 3 or 4 years ago he could be at Stevie G's level now.

yes he is a total nutter, just mark my words...when moyes signs him and brings him back home to everton....he will be a revelation there.........off the pitch he'll prolly kill someone or something aswell, but on the pitch...quality.

he's a thug, a dickhead, a troublemaker and loads of other nasty words...but he is a talented footballer who I still believe can be tamed

 

[michaelden]

yeah all we need is a racist argumentative twat to help the team spirit :doh:

 

[NEVILLEB]

I hold my hand up as someone who thought buying him would be a good idea...oh dear

He's a psycho and would ruin moral...

 

[FinnYid]

he is very very talented, is someone had found and tamed him about 3 or 4 years ago he could be at Stevie G's level now.

He is 2 years younger than Gerrard - when Stevie G was of age Barton is now he had been regular fixture on national side for years, had captained his side to CL victory, had been UEFA Champions' League Most Valuable Player, PFA Young Player of the Year, had been on PFA team of the year and year later was voted PFA player of the year.

Barton is talentless headless chickend who wasn't good enough to play at U21 level when he was eligible, has been called to national side once (just like Sean Davis was when he was of Bartons age) and when moaning little piece of shit demanded transfer request year ago only attracted derisory offer from Boro. Rather than compare to Gerrad, i would draw comparisons to Bowyer of 5 years ago - when that thug was 24 - though Bowyer of then was miles better player than Barton is now. Pops in odd goal - his career stats in that department are hardly shattering - and makes some rash challenges, mainly due his inability to read game. For more talented player could have won the ball fair and square. Otherwise he offers next to nothing, below par in both playmaking and defensive duties.

City are currently 13th, about where they should be. Barton hasn't elevated them a bit, so much for his "leading abilities". Without the constant media attention due his "colourful"
character there wouldn't be half the fuss about him as player either as he isn't much of talent. Emperors new clothes.

 

[AngerManagement]

I agree with the comparison to Sean Davis (talent wise) I dont see him as being any better a player then Davis, how he is compared to Gerrard is beyond me

Plus his brother murdered my girlfriends cousin, and although I know he is not responcible for his brothers actions...his displays of thugary make me sick and it is clear that he is capable of similar behaviour.

What sort of a person stubs a lit cigar in a teammates eye? or attacks a young kid?

If he werent a footballer I dread to think what he would be doing instead.

The only similarity I see between he and GErrard is that they are both scousers and both play CM

 

[Rupstoh]

There was—and, as I've already mentioned, we had a thread expressing outrage that Mido should have a little dig at Judas. And I may be misremembering, but I believe the member who started that was the same one who kicked this nonsense off.

Wrong again brain-ache.

:razz:

 

[SpurSince57]

Wrong again brain-ache.

:razz:

But it's nice actually to have a brain to ache.

And start it or not, you were certainly one of those most visibly foaming at the mouth over the outrage to Judas.

 

[Rupstoh]

O/T but I think you'll find that I have been proven right about Mido. He WAS a waste of time signing. I thank you.

 

[longdistancespursfan]

ruphstoh maybe you should 'offer him out'











lol give joey barton a ring he may come and help you.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

he is very good player and I like him as player

but no way for him here after what he did with Dabo.

 

[Dov67]

he is a nasty horrible little fucker, and is exactly what we need in midfield!!

I rate him very highly as footballer, but of course there is his constant off the field antics to consider.

None of us really know if Jol could "tame" him or how the dressing room would react to a character that would shake things up a bit. Only MJ and DC know - if they think it would be worth going for him then thats fine by me!!

 

[Rupstoh]

Dov67 - Do you go to WHL or away games regularly?

 

[Dov67]

Dov67 - Do you go to WHL or away games regularly?

yes

 

[Kendall]

he is a nasty horrible little fucker, and is exactly what we need in midfield!!

I rate him very highly as footballer, but of course there is his constant off the field antics to consider.

None of us really know if Jol could "tame" him or how the dressing room would react to a character that would shake things up a bit. Only MJ and DC know - if they think it would be worth going for him then thats fine by me!!

Definitely, I don't care about off-field politics, I care about what players do on the field & Barton is a leader & is dedicated in everything he does. He would thrive with players other than the shower of utter shit City have around him.

 

[Rupstoh]

I thought that.

Stick with me.

The majority of posters here don't go, don't see the need for a nasty fucker and don't understand the wider picture. SS57 doesn't see the wider picture because he watches MOTD highlights. You and I watch the game.

This club needs a Joey Barton in midfield!! A lot of the goals have been given away by central midfield not having any fucking bite. None of them have it!

I couldn't give a monkeys whether Barton beats anyone on the training ground if they aren't pulling their weight, that's the manager's job to deal with after all. It's what that man does on the pitch that matters.

I agree with Barton that he wouldn't pay money to watch Man City as a supporter. Not one player is up for the cause, not one home goal since Jan 1st apparently.

After all, you and I pay our money. We deserve a battle and a win, not Terry Henry saying that we over-celebrated for a draw.

I just wonder if the posters here have the same desire to MATCH a midfield and beat every club?

 

[hybridsoldier]

He is 2 years younger than Gerrard - when Stevie G was of age Barton is now he had been regular fixture on national side for years, had captained his side to CL victory, had been UEFA Champions' League Most Valuable Player, PFA Young Player of the Year, had been on PFA team of the year and year later was voted PFA player of the year.

wt is the point of this?? that gerrard plays for a bigger and better club than man city.

you've reinforced my point that Gerrard has benefitted from being tamed and moulded from a young age (20), whereas Barton hasnt.

ability wise I assure you they wer probably not that far apart at that age

 

[Kendall]

No they don't, they are obsessed with euro flair...preferably from france, or a french speaking african nation.

 

[AngerManagement]

I agree completley that we need the type of player you are describing. We need a fully committed player who will run our midfield and team. A driving force in the centre a Roy Keane to inspire the rest of the team and drive forward when the chips are down.

That I am not debating, we are lacking bite/steele in the middle of the park, we have let numerous goals in because of weak/slack midfield play (and cover for the centre backs)

What I am questioning is your valuation of Barton as a player. I am not convinced he is as good as some people mention or as he has been hyped up to be in the press.

I think at City he is a big fish in a small pond and I personally believe when/if he moves to a bigger club he will not reach the 'potential' people have percieved him to have (because the potential is not as high as it is hyped)

That is debateable of course, and I am not claiming my opinon to be any greater then the next persons. But for me even putting his off the field antics aside he is not the person we require (from a purley footballing point of view) I simply dont think he will serve the club in any better fashion then Sean Davis did before him.

As for his off the field discrepancies, I think it is a little short sighted to dismiss them completley as 'as long as he does the business on the pitch...etc etc'
That is taking aspects such as team spirit and player cohesion a little lightly. It really does seem we are building a strong team moral, and spirit has improved (notice we are now the team scoring late goals rarther the letting them in) I believe this is all part of players enjoying what they do and working for one another.

Would it be ok if he was playing well at the deteriment of our better players and the team as a whole? Personalities could have an effect on other players and team spirit, its possible.

You and everyone who wants him at the club are entitled to your opinon, your right in as far as the type of player we need (we are crying out for a Roy Keane) but in my opinon Barton is not that player.

Its also academic for fans to argue the pros and cons of a player before he has signed and has never (to my knowledge even been linked)

Personally I dont think Spurs will touch him with a barge pole so all this debate is irrelevant.

 

[BoringOldFan]

A thread on Joey Barton and a post by AngerManagement. A marriage made in heaven :grin: .

Rupstoh we do NOT want Barton. Yes, an aggressive midfielder would be good, but the man is a grade A nutjob. Did you see those pictures of Dabo? His face is smashed to bits. One eye is stitched closed.

It's all very well having a player who occasionally crosses the line, but it's obvious that Barton has no idea where the line is.

 

[SpurSince57]

Barton, waste of time signing. Particularly if Dabo presses charges and poor little Joey ends up doing 6 months for ABH, which he well might.

I couldn't give a monkeys whether Barton beats anyone on the training ground if they aren't pulling their weight, that's the manager's job to deal with after all. It's what that man does on the pitch that matters.

This wasn't your normal training-ground bust-up. That would be a different matter. We know that happens all the time. Keane decked Davids because he asked for it. Barton hacked the guy down twice, knocked him down from behind and then sat on his chest and punched his face to fuck before two or three team-mates dragged him away and restrained him. All this in front of a bunch of schoolkids, a few days before the Manchester derby. Magic. And for why? Apparently, because he was upset that Dunne had got the Player of the Year award and he's not going to take him on.

Yes, it's the manager's job to deal with it. He's dealing with it by trying to sell the little **** to whichever club is mug enough to take him on, and that won't be us. Fortunately, Levy, Comolli and Jol have more sense. At least, I hope they do.

And he makes such a difference to City that they took seven points from the three games he was suspended for, as has been pointed out on City forums. So, totally indispensable, then. He's so good, in fact, that none of the top sides has ever shown the slightest interest in him.

Save the sneers, Rup. They don't work. I see the bigger picture very well, thanks very much. I can only wonder that you manage to spend so much time watching City as well as Spurs.