Player Jonathan David

[jpascavitz]

I agree with everything being said but he does seem to be a decent/above average finisher in the box. Yes he doesn't score great goals, but he still gets them (I know about the pens).

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Lacazette outscored him last season with 27

 

[Dunc2610]

Much rather Vlahovic, who's the better player, or Orban, who's got the far higher ceiling. David would be a weird in between where it's a lot of money for a player who's not that young and who doesn't necessarily even walk into our starting XI.

Not that young? He's 23! I'd say that was pretty young!

 

[homer hotspur]

Plus he has an underlying injury issue.

If so, I'm out

 

[Danny1]

So the pros & cons are:

Pros - Versatile forward, good in tight spaces, very good goal scoring return, 96 in 220 at club level & 25 in 42 internationally, young.
Cons - lacks pace, French league, lacks real height.

As a player he reminds me of Lacazette. Small in stature but good on the ball & a good finisher when he has the time you get in the French league. Personally think it is quite a risky buy, but I guess what signing doesn't carry an element of risk.

 

[brasil_spur]

David is certainly more of an established player there is no doubt, but personally I’d rather take a risk on Orban or Marcos Leonardo. David will cost around €70 mil because that is how important he is to Lille but for me I think that outlay for him would be a mistake. I don’t think he is on the same level Osimhen was when Napoli bought him for example. Whilst Orban would certainly be the greater risk I think David will still be risky and that’s not what you want if you are going to spend €70 mil.

Moving the reply over to this thread.

Here is Osimhen's season at Lille before moving to Napoli:

Here is David's 22/23 season at Lille:

If anything David is further advanced than Osimhen was when he left Lille. That being said Osimhen was younger when he left Lille, so it's not exactly comparable.

 

[Tucker]

If so, I'm out

For clarity I was on about Dusan Vlahovic.

 

[felmani26]

Similar strikers but Orban I believe has the higher ceiling and perhaps the most important aspect for this club, the cheaper outlay.

 

[brasil_spur]

he's clearly held in high regard but not sure this represents the best value for money, maybe if we didn't already have richy.

I get the fact we're allegedly working on number 1 striker and number 3 winger but you would have expected vlahovic to be number 1 available striker surely? unless of course if we know flat out he isn't available.

Is he available? Not sure Juve want to sell him.
Does he want to join Spurs? Seems unlikely given our current situation.
Does he have long term injury concerns? Possibly.
Does Ange want him? No idea.

Again if it's me I go big for Vlahovic, but it comes with a lot of risk.

David comes with less risk.

In terms of value for money - there's no such thing. Kane going to Bayern was probably the best value for money signing any team has made in the last 10 years, as despite his contract situation he's bound to bang goals in for them in the Bundesliga. But even then they've paid over £100m for a 30 year old.

 

[brasil_spur]

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Similar strikers but Orban I believe has the higher ceiling and perhaps the most important aspect for this club, the cheaper outlay.

Can we compare them both at Gent as that will give the most accurate picture surely?

 

[Guntz]

People need to forget about Vlahovic.

He's not leaving Juve for us.

 

[wrd]

I think if we're honest with ourselves, this whole idea that we should go for Orban over David is nothing more than group think as maybe a few people have watched both extensively but I doubt the rest of us have seen more than a couple of games of one of them, letalone either. It's just the current vibe that Orban is the guy.

I say this as I'm desperate for us to go for Orban and I've never seen the guy play and you've all made David sound like he's gonna flop like Lacazette Must admit, it was the person who linked the stats of strikers from the Belgian league that got me excited, plus the french league has been notoriously hit and miss, mostly miss.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Moving the reply over to this thread.

Here is Osimhen's season at Lille before moving to Napoli:

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Here is David's 22/23 season at Lille:

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If anything David is further advanced than Osimhen was when he left Lille. That being said Osimhen was younger when he left Lille, so it's not exactly comparable.

Keep in mind how bloated David’s stats are by pens tho. 11 of his goals were pens last season. Having watched both in France Osimhen looked significantly better in comparison.

 

[homer hotspur]

For clarity I was on about Dusan Vlahovic.

Ah ok, thanks

 

[Tucker]

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Similar strikers but Orban I believe has the higher ceiling and perhaps the most important aspect for this club, the cheaper outlay.

I keep seeing this. But what is it that makes you think he has the higher ceiling? Stats are broadly comparable, and David plays at a higher standard of football.

 

[Guntz]

Reportedly, David is Napoli's #1 choice to replace Osimhen if he ends up leaving.

Their scouting is not to be scoffed at in recent years with Kvaratskhelia, Kim Min Jae, Anguissa, Lobotka, etc...

 

[Tucker]

I think if we're honest with ourselves, this whole idea that we should go for Orban over David is nothing more than group think as maybe a few people have watched both extensively but I doubt the rest of us have seen more than a couple of games of one of them, letalone either. It's just the current vibe that Orban is the guy.

I say this as I'm desperate for us to go for Orban and I've never seen the guy play and you've all made David sound like he's gonna flop like Lacazette Must admit, it was the person who linked the stats of strikers from the Belgian league that got me excited, plus the french league has been notoriously hit and miss, mostly miss.

Dare I say it, but Orban seems to be the hipsters choice.

 

[Azza1985]

How is he 23! Feels like he's been around for years. At that age the stats don't look to bad.

 

[DONOS10]

SC's favourite person George Bannister has said this is a "non-story"

 

[Guntz]

SC's favourite person George Bannister has said this is a "non-story"

Probably because Paul O'Keefe said there had been no bid only 10 mins earlier

He just copies what he says.