keane return ?

[Kendall]

We were fortunate to get the best years out of Keane. He has never been quick or brave and I noticed that last year he had lost that yard of pace that used to give him that extra bit of space to create.

£20m was a fantastic deal for THFC. We have to reinvest this money in a striker who is quick, strong, holds the ball up and can score. Keane does not offer any of these attributes.

Big time rep for you.

 

[doubledecker]

Because Milan suddenly imploded. The FA Cup came his way because of a last-minute Gerrard wonder-goal. In league terms, Liverpool have been treading water—he's been no improvement on Houllier.

Come on SS 57 - even you have to admit to the odd silly post here and there. You give Liverpool and Benitez no credit for their record to which we can only aspire. Even if your argument that Liverpool were handed the Final by Milan is accepted and that they should have no credit for that fantastic comeback , then you have to agree that getting to the Final in the first place was a tremendous feat. Plus their FA Cup win and consistent top 4 placings. And top of the League now. You are joking, right ? Unfortunately they are light years ahead of us.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

good to hear that Robbie Keane would like to quit Liverpool, it would be nice to see him here again to solve second striker option. For sure if he came back, Benitez would blame himself because he don't know how to get the best of this player.

I really hope we will sign him and Gareth Bale isn't involved in any possible day etheir Liverpool or somone else. But I really doubt that Keane would came after boowing him, he might look at possible transfer to Celtic or Everton or Aston Villa as these managers tried to get him in the past and all of them needs strikers. As well as I doubt Levy will agree to sign him after RK leaving us by that way...

 

[super swine]

Swap for Darren Bent maybe?

Come home Keano

 

[ILS]

I was never Keane's biggest fan as i was in the Defoe camp however if we were offered him i would bite there hands off.

Watch the match away to Reading last season, him and Bent were different gravy and i also think he would link up very well with Pav.

 

[ILS]

Sorry forgot to add why do people see Robbie Keane as this link up player which was what he was expected to do at Liverpool with Torres. Berba was our link man who dropped deep and Keane played off the shoulder of the last defender.

and I really believe that Liverpool did not really bother scouting him as surely they would have realised this as well before spending 20m on a player who's game does not suit them.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Dont want Keano back although he'd be good for team spirit and around the dressing room cos he's a real character but i've always thought he was a very good headless chicken

Rafa thought he was buying a cheaper version of David Villa but has found out he's not in the same ball park and Torres cant work him out.

 

[SpurSince57]

Come on SS 57 - even you have to admit to the odd silly post here and there. You give Liverpool and Benitez no credit for their record to which we can only aspire. Even if your argument that Liverpool were handed the Final by Milan is accepted and that they should have no credit for that fantastic comeback , then you have to agree that getting to the Final in the first place was a tremendous feat. Plus their FA Cup win and consistent top 4 placings. And top of the League now. You are joking, right ? Unfortunately they are light years ahead of us.

They did indeed do very well in getting to the final, but Milan gave them a football lesson and looked to be cruising—then suddenly panicked and fell apart after Gerrard's goal. The Spammers were the better side in that FA Cup final (although I'm almightily glad that Gerrard took it it into extra time).

Consistent top four places? Didn't they have those with Houllier?

Light years ahead of us? Am I imagining that we've beaten them twice this season?

 

[doubledecker]

They did indeed do very well in getting to the final, but Milan gave them a football lesson and looked to be cruising—then suddenly panicked and fell apart after Gerrard's goal. The Spammers were the better side in that FA Cup final (although I'm almightily glad that Gerrard took it it into extra time).

Consistent top four places? Didn't they have those with Houllier?

Light years ahead of us? Am I imagining that we've beaten them twice this season?

I would settle for us getting to the CL Final, being given a football lesson by say Barcelona and winning it by them panicking. And you will I am sure recall back in the 70's when we were outplayed by lowly Aston Villa in the League Cup final. The records show that we won. Same applies to the first match against Man City in the 1981 Final. Records show we won after a replay.

I don't really see the relevance of the Houllier comparison. Is Redknapp to be judged just by comparison to Ramos ? Or Jol for that matter ? Top 4 every season ? I think we would settle for that.

As for beating them twice this season we beat their B team and had a fortunate win in the League. Of course likewise the records show 2 wins. We are unbeaten in our last 3 outings against Chelsea. Are we close to them too ? Bolton used to regularly beat Arsenal. Are they not light years behind nonetheless ? And are Burnley close to Chelsea and Arsenal after beating both of them.?

In the last 17 years we have won just 2 League Cups . In terms of achievement that ranks below CL, Premier League, Finishing in the top 4 ,FA Cup, and Uefa Cup . So 6th best achievement twice in 20 years. Light years behind Liverpool ? To think anything else is delusion.

 

[roosh]

i would love to see him back at the lane, obviously for a fraction of the cost that we paid for him. the thing is though, i'm not sure if it would be worth it. if we're going to be getting a new striker at the end of the season, we should probably be going for someone else.

that being siad though, if we were to buy him in January and Campbell was to go back to united, as expected, and then we got one other striker in in the summer, it mightn't be the worst bit of business. that way we'd get someone who would need very little time to settle back in, someone who has shown in the past that he can be good for us. i wouldn't underestimate the power of him returning to his "spiritual home".

i'm not sure if people have said it in here [i saw a few posts on the front page article] but any comparisons with Berbatosser are inaccurate. If some think that the fact that he never said he was going to stay is more honest than Keane, the ye're sadly misguided. Keane always gave 100% for the club, Wankatov didn't, in fact from the get go he only came to spurs, to put himself in the shop window for a bigger club - hardly overtly "honest" is it.

also, some sympathise with Berbatov for being ambitious and wanting to play for a bigger club, but condemn Keane for doing the same. there can be no doubt that Keane did love spurs but the opportunity to play for the club he supported as a boy was too hard to turn down.

anyway, as someone mentioned, there may be a rule against it, so it prob won't happen anyway

 

[mil1lion]

Sorry forgot to add why do people see Robbie Keane as this link up player which was what he was expected to do at Liverpool with Torres. Berba was our link man who dropped deep and Keane played off the shoulder of the last defender.

and I really believe that Liverpool did not really bother scouting him as surely they would have realised this as well before spending 20m on a player who's game does not suit them.

If Keane comes back to Spurs, he'll go back to being the link up player. The difference we'll have to Liverpool is that we'll have a big striker in Pavyluchenko to link up with him. I think they would form an effective partnership. Pavyluchenko playing as the furthest striker, and Keane playing off him when long balls are put up to Pavyluchenko. The key would be that we'd actually have better support for Pavyluchenko and we'd see more of a £14m player in him. He's far too isolated at the moment.

If Liverpool had kept Peter Crouch, i think Keane would have been much more succesful while Torres was out. Those 2 could have formed an effective partnership. But the fact that they dont have any big target men up front has made it difficult for Keane.

 

[mil1lion]

Its funny reading different opinions of Keane and Berbatov. People are quick to have a dig at Robbie Keane because of his comments about how he could see himself at the Club for the rest of his career. But they soon forget the many times Keane was substituted last season, while a certain sulking Bulgarian who at the time was looking to move on, got to stay on the pitch. Now considering it was pretty much certain that Berbatov would leave in the summer, the fact that the club didn't use that to try and form a new partnership involving Keane surprises me. So maybe people should take their Spurs shaded glasses off for a moment and see it through Keanes eyes. Is it really that big a surprise he left us?

Maybe, just maybe, he would have stayed if he was playing the full 90+ minutes of games for us.

 

[Hoowl]

It has been mentioned a couple of times alread but surely this is all hypothetical as premier league rules mean he can't return to us in January? If he does come back then the deal sound like £15m comprising a £5m fee and writing off £10m that Liverpool apparently owe us. We certainly need a striker in the window or in the summer, could we attract someone of the quality of Keane for £15m or less? I think we might be hard pressed to. I rate Keane more highly than Bent or Pavlyuchenko who have both been signed for around that ammount but would keane fit into our team?

I think there is a myth that keane is creative, in the sense he can play in midfield or behind the front two and make things happen. Maybe it's this mythical keane that Liverpool thought they were getting? Keane is only creative in the sense that he links very well with others when he's played as a striker. So if we signed him, he'd have to play up front with someone else. If we play two strikers where does modric fit in? Furthermore, I don't remember keane linking up particularly well with bent but maybe that was due to bent, or the fact the hardly played together.

 

[Rob]

It has been mentioned a couple of times alread but surely this is all hypothetical as premier league rules mean he can't return to us in January?

That rule is at the discretion of the FA and we'd have to apply (and likely get) special dispensation considering it's only in place to prevent abuse like when Coventry signed that player (the great LWB from Champ Man who's name I forget) and then sold him on a an day later for a huge profit.

 

[archiewasking]

If Keane left for his boyhood club, fair play to him. He wasn't to know when he said a few months earlier how much he loved us and wanted to stay, that Liverpool would come in for him.

Having said that, I think getting Keane back would be a mistake for several reasons. Firstly, as said in a previous post, we've had his best years. Can you imagine the pressure to bang in another 20 goals for us and how long it would take for some of our fans to get on his back if Keane wasn't bagging hatfuls very soon?

Secondly, I don't believe we'd get him cut price. Benitez won't want to get even more egg on his face by giving us £££millions for effectively loaning him an ineffective striker for a few months.

Thirdly, Modric now does the link man role. And will be vastly superior to anything Keane could offer us.

Oh, and a final gripe. All this about the "link man for Pav" is really getting on my nerves. What the hell has Darren Bent done wrong? Scored 12 goals for a team that has been a shambles for a good part of this season and given him precious little service? Everyone posting fantasy teams with Pav/Campbell/N E oneelse, with Bent on the bench if he's lucky.

Take him to your metaphorical bosum while you can; if we sell him, like we did Defoe, then Bent will be very very successful elsewhere, say at the Toon or even the Gooners / Chelski. And our much vaunted headline grabbing big signing replacement will no doubt cop the same kind of unmerited indifference.

 

[SpurSince57]

I would settle for us getting to the CL Final, being given a football lesson by say Barcelona and winning it by them panicking. And you will I am sure recall back in the 70's when we were outplayed by lowly Aston Villa in the League Cup final. The records show that we won. Same applies to the first match against Man City in the 1981 Final. Records show we won after a replay.

I don't really see the relevance of the Houllier comparison. Is Redknapp to be judged just by comparison to Ramos ? Or Jol for that matter ? Top 4 every season ? I think we would settle for that.

As for beating them twice this season we beat their B team and had a fortunate win in the League. Of course likewise the records show 2 wins. We are unbeaten in our last 3 outings against Chelsea. Are we close to them too ? Bolton used to regularly beat Arsenal. Are they not light years behind nonetheless ? And are Burnley close to Chelsea and Arsenal after beating both of them.?

In the last 17 years we have won just 2 League Cups . In terms of achievement that ranks below CL, Premier League, Finishing in the top 4 ,FA Cup, and Uefa Cup . So 6th best achievement twice in 20 years. Light years behind Liverpool ? To think anything else is delusion.

I'm sure all of us would settle for that, but it doesn't alter the fact that Benitez' first season was saved by two huge dollops of good fortune.

Of course the comparison's relevant. Benitez has got them no nearer winning the title than Houllier (in fact Houllier got them closer), and winning the title is what their fans believe they should be doing. They've been also-rans for nearly 20 years—and if your club had dominated English football for the quarter-of-a-century before that, you're going to be unhappy. If they've undoubtedly been more successful than us, their position isn't dissimilar—as a Liverpool fan you have to be in your 30s to remember the real glory days, which is pretty much the same situation we Spurs fans are in.

 

[Original # 10]

are people seriously trying to gun down Robbie Keane? the man scored over 100 goals for us in his time with us. He had many different strike partners and scored goals for fun with whoever he played up top with. His best season was arguably the 05/06 season when partnering the mighty Mido up top we almost made the top 4. Not a Berbatov in sight. Saying Berba made him look good is a terrible cop out. You could argue that Berba improved his game whilst playing up top with Keane for 2 seasons and hence us being able to make a tidy £20m profit on the man. We need goals, we need a proper link up man, a second striker. Should we get a player in who knows the club inside out and scored a shed load of goals for us....? simple answer really.......

 

[SpurSince57]

Silly, isn't it?

 

[Robbiepope]

I see it like as if your girlfriend cheated on you and went out with your mate of yours then after a while it didnt work out between them and she then wanted to get back with you.

Id feel used and tell her to piss off - like I would Robbie

 

[C0YS]

It has been mentioned a couple of times alread but surely this is all hypothetical as premier league rules mean he can't return to us in January? If he does come back then the deal sound like £15m comprising a £5m fee and writing off £10m that Liverpool apparently owe us. We certainly need a striker in the window or in the summer, could we attract someone of the quality of Keane for £15m or less? I think we might be hard pressed to. I rate Keane more highly than Bent or Pavlyuchenko who have both been signed for around that ammount but would keane fit into our team?

I think there is a myth that keane is creative, in the sense he can play in midfield or behind the front two and make things happen. Maybe it's this mythical keane that Liverpool thought they were getting? Keane is only creative in the sense that he links very well with others when he's played as a striker. So if we signed him, he'd have to play up front with someone else. If we play two strikers where does modric fit in? Furthermore, I don't remember keane linking up particularly well with bent but maybe that was due to bent, or the fact the hardly played together.

That was a myth a myth which I think got proved wrong if you watched the reading game, they were both supperb and combined very well