Kieron Dyer

[TheVoiceofReason]

ha

 

[PT]

tell that to steve bruce.

Well Tommy, in the case of Ghaly, I imagine Bruce is thanking the hoy fuck that the deal was still hingeing on a work permit being issued. He was able to unstitch it but the deal in principle was al tied up.

In the case of Dyer, the Nukes just wanted to renegotiate after first originally agreeing the deal and allowing Dyer to travel down for a medical, which he passed.

That is shyster tactics and has no place in any business environment.

 

[phil]

Well Tommy, in the case of Ghaly, I imagine Bruce is thanking the hoy fuck that the deal was still hingeing on a work permit being issued. He was able to unstitch it but the deal in principle was al tied up.

In the case of Dyer, the Nukes just wanted to renegotiate after first originally agreeing the deal and allowing Dyer to travel down for a medical, which he passed.

That is shyster tactics and has no place in any business environment.

Agreed, but it is funny.

 

[Disconosebleed]

Well Tommy, in the case of Ghaly, I imagine Bruce is thanking the hoy fuck that the deal was still hingeing on a work permit being issued. He was able to unstitch it but the deal in principle was al tied up.

In the case of Dyer, the Nukes just wanted to renegotiate after first originally agreeing the deal and allowing Dyer to travel down for a medical, which he passed.

That is shyster tactics and has no place in any business environment.

They wanted to re-negotiate because Dyer decided that he should be given a £2m loyalty bonus because he didn't ask for a transfer officially, even though the reason he's leaving is because he wants to leave. He isn't willing to leave without his £2m and won't officially request a transfer (as doing so would negate his loyalty bonus), Newcastle are understandably unwilling to lose £2m in such circumstances and so have re-negotiated the fee with an extra £2m added on.

So either West Ham pay the extra £2m that is essentially being demanded of them by DYER and not Newcastle, or all sides play hardball and it probably ends up with a vaguely-unsatisfactory solution for all parties on August 31st.

 

[miso_kool]

They wanted to re-negotiate because Dyer decided that he should be given a £2m loyalty bonus because he didn't ask for a transfer officially, even though the reason he's leaving is because he wants to leave. He isn't willing to leave without his £2m and won't officially request a transfer (as doing so would negate his loyalty bonus), Newcastle are understandably unwilling to lose £2m in such circumstances and so have re-negotiated the fee with an extra £2m added on.

So either West Ham pay the extra £2m that is essentially being demanded of them by DYER and not Newcastle, or all sides play hardball and it probably ends up with a vaguely-unsatisfactory solution for all parties on August 31st.

Madness.

Dyer is a tool.

 

[Pinto]

They wanted to re-negotiate because Dyer decided that he should be given a £2m loyalty bonus because he didn't ask for a transfer officially, even though the reason he's leaving is because he wants to leave. He isn't willing to leave without his £2m and won't officially request a transfer (as doing so would negate his loyalty bonus), Newcastle are understandably unwilling to lose £2m in such circumstances and so have re-negotiated the fee with an extra £2m added on.

So either West Ham pay the extra £2m that is essentially being demanded of them by DYER and not Newcastle, or all sides play hardball and it probably ends up with a vaguely-unsatisfactory solution for all parties on August 31st.

If I was Newcastle I would just split the difference with West Ham and give him 1 million and say if Dyer can't get the other 1 million from West Ham too bad.

Actually now that I think about it I might just eat the 2 million and get Dyer out of my lockerroom and get his wages out of my bill as well.

 

[donny1013]

This is pretty typical of someone like Dyer. You get a player like Bent who rejected big money to join Spurs and progress his career, then you get a mercenary like Dyer who seems purely interested in the money. he wants to leave the toon so he shouldn't be given any pay off. It wasn't like Bellamy at Liverpool coz he didnt really want to leave but was surplus to requirements. I hope we wern't ever interested in signing him, i imo that was just talk to get his price up.

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm sure that BOF's source is absolutely right, and that we weren't, for the reason I stated above. The only way I can see us having been interested is if we'd offered the Barcodes an appearance-based payment, which would have been a non-starter as far as they were concerned.

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

This is pretty typical of someone like Dyer. You get a player like Bent who rejected big money to join Spurs and progress his career, then you get a mercenary like Dyer who seems purely interested in the money. he wants to leave the toon so he shouldn't be given any pay off. It wasn't like Bellamy at Liverpool coz he didnt really want to leave but was surplus to requirements. I hope we wern't ever interested in signing him, i imo that was just talk to get his price up.

If I had a contract with someone which stated I was due £2 million from them in certain circumstances, and those circumstances occurred, I'd want the £2 million. However, if I also wanted to leave the area where I was employed for personal reasons, I 'd have to weigh up that against foregoing any money I was due, if my employer didn't want to pay it. This is the situation Dyer finds himself in at the moment as I see it.

It is not unusual for a selling party to increase a sale price if their costs suddenly rise pre-sale. It is not the first time that a selling party has withdrawn a player from sale at the eleventh hour either: Mido's on-off transfer to Man City in January comes to mind.

Neither is it the first time that West Ham's tactic of negotiation through the media has been used, though they do seem to be making rather a habit of it.

 

[onthetwo]

apologies if this has been suggested already, but wouldnt a season-long loan be a good idea at this point? That way we could mitigate our risk toward his injury record, attitude etc....just a thought.

 

[talkshowhost86]

apologies if this has been suggested already, but wouldnt a season-long loan be a good idea at this point? That way we could mitigate our risk toward his injury record, attitude etc....just a thought.

I don't think Newcastle would go for that to be honest.

Personally I think this deal is dead in the water if they want 8m. He's not worth that at all and I doubt that anyone at Spurs will think otherwise.

 

[onthetwo]

I don't think Newcastle would go for that to be honest.

Personally I think this deal is dead in the water if they want 8m. He's not worth that at all and I doubt that anyone at Spurs will think otherwise.

might be worth asking in about 24 days time...they wont want him hanging around the place until Jan...and he's still a devastating player on his day.

 

[talkshowhost86]

might be worth asking in about 24 days time...they wont want him hanging around the place until Jan...and he's still a devastating player on his day.

If we're interested I imagine that's exactly what we'll do, especially if he's as unsettled as the press claim.

Personally though I'd say his downsides outweigh his good sides, and I'd be relatively happy for us to steer clear.

 

[longdistancespursfan]

If we're interested I imagine that's exactly what we'll do, especially if he's as unsettled as the press claim.

Personally though I'd say his downsides outweigh his good sides, and I'd be relatively happy for us to steer clear.

me 2, if were buying another midfielder it has to be either a defensive one or a left winger. dyer cant play either of those positions well.

if we sign dyer now after signing prince boateng then i think the club are just winding us fans up.