Barry Mead
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As you said you haven't watched the player, might be a good idea before you try and argue against his qualities.
Kyle walker is the best
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As you said you haven't watched the player, might be a good idea before you try and argue against his qualities.
Kendall
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Coleman is better than Walker in pretty much every department at the moment (defensive positioning, attacking ability, crossing and even shooting). But he is a couple of years older and wiser too.
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Walkers a great RB but has that mistake in him ala LFC last season, they are rare but the are fucking costly
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he will need to learn a lot about defensive positioning and attacking intelligence in the next couple of years because once his pace starts to go, it will show him up a lot. I think pace gets him out of jail because even though he's rapid, he's still often shown up by slower players. If he didn't have the speed, I think he'd be in trouble.
Hmmm I don't think I did argue against Corchia's qualities, as I said I've never seen him play, so I couldn't do that.
What I said was he plays for an awful team who are virtually already relegated from a weak league, and he forms part of a defence who leak goals for fun, 37 in the league already. Also that despite being Walkers age he has received no full international recognition from 2 possible countries and that's despite France not exactly being overloaded with quality RB's. To me (just my opinion) doesn't point to a player that would be an upgrade on Walker, but if he's showing the qualities you say in such a poor team he must be a real player, but just surrounded by total shit.
Out of interest why do you watch so much of Sochaux (online I presume)?
But he has the pace so plays accordingly, it's a strength so he uses it and that's the right things to do. If he didn't have that pace he would already be playing differently.
Having listened to Kyle on a number of occasions he clearly isn't the idiot that done would like to make out.
Kendall
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Sounding bright and having footballing intelligence aren't the same thing. Look at Rooney and Walcott. The former is pure shit for brains, but one of the smartest footballers around, while the latter is bright, articulate but has a regular brain scramble at the byline.
You can be quick and also switched on, that's what has made Sagna and Cole so good for so long and enabled Cole in particular to maintain his quality even as his pace dropped off.
Walker can and does get skinned on occasion by players substantially slower than him. I really like him but he has plenty to improve. His pace won't mask his issues forever.
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He's a typical, yet good example of the modern english full back. Fast and strong, good going forward, prone to some lapses in concentration, inconsistent at the back. But still England 2nd choice RB and will play at a World Cup. Yikes.
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So because he's quick he shouldn't learn defensive positioning and attacking intelligence ? He should decide not to ? You say some really inane shit sometimes.
Having listened to him myself, I wouldn't exactly say he chose football over quantum physics.
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Well Lennon has already lost a yard or two in the last couple of years. So continue to laugh if you like, but it's not unheard of for quick players to get an injury here and there that can shave off speed. All I'm saying is, he shouldn't rely solely on speed to bail him out of situations that he has gotten himself into via mistakes in other areas of his game.
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But in all seriousness who the hell can be as productive as him at RB in our squad, he is still the best we have.
BAE wasnt the quickest and prone to the odd error, but we desperately missed him this season when Rose got injured, for me RB cover and a LB was essential in the summer, unless AVB wants to play CB's in those positions when needed, KN just isnt good enough imo.
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I'm not calling for him to be replaced.
His defensive performance againssunderland was up there and it had little to with pace. That being said pace is an important facet of a fullback and as a defender.
Ive said it countless times before but how many goals have come from our right? You can ignore my question and cite that liverpool game all you want but it only reinforces my point. In fact if you compare it to the amount of the amount of more subtle yet more costly mistakes that fans favourite verts makes then you can see the inequality.
Don't get me wrong I love and rate verts but its to highlight the inconsistency. And that's why theres little point discussing because its the same few people defending their corner and it just goes round in circles referencing that error at Liverpool.
Ive said it countless times before but how many goals have come from our right? You can ignore my question and cite that liverpool game all you want but it only reinforces my point. In fact if you compare it to the amount of the amount of more subtle yet more costly mistakes that fans favourite verts makes then you can see the inequality.
Don't get me wrong I love and rate verts but its to highlight the inconsistency. And that's why theres little point discussing because its the same few people defending their corner and it just goes round in circles referencing that error at Liverpool.
A yard or two? Youve just made that up. Daws said he and walks were the quickest. Even if it was true its not significant enough to mention.
Just look at distin.
Lol where did I say he shouldn't learn defensive positioning etc?
What I said was he has pace so plays accordingly and that if he didn't he would already be playing differently, which is nothing like 'he shouldn't learn defensive positioning' etc, but I'm sure you know that already BC.
I'm always happy to have my 'inane shit' pointed out, so go ahead and fill your boots?
IMHO there's not a great deal wrong with Walkers defensive positioning, sure he makes the odd gaff but overall I think he's defensively pretty solid, but for debate purposes what generally is wrong with Walkers positional play?
As for not choosing football over quantum physics, we just don't know, maybe he felt he couldn't earn £3-4 million a year in Quantum Physics and that football would offer him a better standard of living!
IMHO Walker makes fewer defensive errors than any other defender we have, whether they be a FB or a CB.
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This thread confuses me somewhat - those who were doubtful of him are having their opinions turned around by his performances on the pitch and, whilst still aware of his occasional lapse in concentration, are beginning to acknowledge the improvements he has made, yet those that have had a hard on for him for months and refused to acknowledge his faults still feel the need to defend him and promote him. Why?
He's on the up & up, he's doing enough off his own back to improve the fans opinions of him, so why not ease up on the love-ins for this lad and start turning your attention to the players in our squad who do need the encouragement, who are making mistakes that we wouldn't expect of them, and start offering them a little of your support? Maybe one of you is like the little dude on the front of the Lucky Charms boxes, a leprechaun who brings luck to whoever they are singing the praises of - why not try a bit of love Soldados way? Or Defoe, Dawson, Siggy, Brad etc. - It can only be good for the team in the long run, so spread that love, spread it like they're poop and you're making a dirty protest for their support.
Maybe i should've said butter, or jam. Yeah, lets say Jam on a scone instead, much more family friendly. Ignore the bit about staging a dirty protest, go with Jam instead.
He's on the up & up, he's doing enough off his own back to improve the fans opinions of him, so why not ease up on the love-ins for this lad and start turning your attention to the players in our squad who do need the encouragement, who are making mistakes that we wouldn't expect of them, and start offering them a little of your support? Maybe one of you is like the little dude on the front of the Lucky Charms boxes, a leprechaun who brings luck to whoever they are singing the praises of - why not try a bit of love Soldados way? Or Defoe, Dawson, Siggy, Brad etc. - It can only be good for the team in the long run, so spread that love, spread it like they're poop and you're making a dirty protest for their support.
Maybe i should've said butter, or jam. Yeah, lets say Jam on a scone instead, much more family friendly. Ignore the bit about staging a dirty protest, go with Jam instead.
