Kyle Walker

[mike_l]

How long does a sell on fee last? It's been eight years and three contracts since we bought him, I'd have thought there's be a statute of limitations in there somewhere even if it did exist, and I'm not convinced it does.

Of course there is, it last until he's sold...

 

[Good Doctor M]

Think the idea that Trippier isn't defensively soild is a bit daft to be honest. He was excellent last season for someone who barely got a chance to garner any momentum.

The difference in Kyle and Keiran comes down specifically to pace. Walker is the guy you want going up against someone like Mane, Willian, Hazard - players who will certainly get round you during a game but with enough pace can be caught. Tripper is the best option when we know we'll have a lot of the ball and can get into good crossing positions.

50 mil for Walker, however you cut it, is an excellent price. He's difficult to replace, but honestly, is the only member of the "1st 11" who I'm comfortable selling on. Pick anyone else to be sold and we are more than considerably weaker - with Walker gone, yes, the team suffers, but not to a huge extent - we lose an option with Walker going, nothing more. Trippier is more than adequate replacement and we'll have 50 million to play with if we don't want to reply on KWP just yet.

50 mill, it's almost a no-brainer - especially if the player wants out.

 

[Spurrific]

Think the idea that Trippier isn't defensively soild is a bit daft to be honest. He was excellent last season for someone who barely got a chance to garner any momentum.

The difference in Kyle and Keiran comes down specifically to pace. Walker is the guy you want going up against someone like Mane, Willian, Hazard - players who will certainly get round you during a game but with enough pace can be caught. Tripper is the best option when we know we'll have a lot of the ball and can get into good crossing positions.

50 mil for Walker, however you cut it, is an excellent price. He's difficult to replace, but honestly, is the only member of the "1st 11" who I'm comfortable selling on. Pick anyone else to be sold and we are more than considerably weaker - with Walker gone, yes, the team suffers, but not to a huge extent - we lose an option with Walker going, nothing more. Trippier is more than adequate replacement and we'll have 50 million to play with if we don't want to reply on KWP just yet.

50 mill, it's almost a no-brainer - especially if the player wants out.

It's nowhere near as daft as the assertion that Walker is some bumbling idiot that offers nothing when attacking.

I'm fine with Walker going if he wants out, but we need to replace him if KWP isn't deemed ready. Trippier is not good enough to be first choice for a title challenging side.

 

[Good Doctor M]

It's nowhere near as daft as the assertion that Walker is some bumbling idiot that offers nothing when attacking.

I'm fine with Walker going if he wants out, but we need to replace him if KWP isn't deemed ready. Trippier is not good enough to be first choice for a title challenging side.

Agreed. And don't get me wrong - Walker is excellent going forward from defence to midfield - but his product in the final third, for me is relatively poor. I think he breaks down a lot of attacks because he can be quite pondersome (I won't miss - his signature, run down the line, fake cross, stop, cut back, face the defender, fake pass, turn around, pass to Eriksen as entire defence gets into position).

Not convinced obviously that KWP is the answer and if we don't have Walker someone similar as a stop-gap does feel like a bit of a must. Trippier as first choice, is perfectly acceptable to me - even for title challenge... I'd be happy with top 4 considering the Wembley situation.

 

[worcestersauce]

Of course there is, it last until he's sold...

There is still one if there was one or there is one, has that been confirmed?

 

[jamesinashby]

Let's not delude ourselves, if the oil money had come to us we would, in all likelihood, have done the same as City.

I don't deny that for one second. The point is, we achieved two very good seasons without expensive signings and grabbing the best players by offering wages no other clubs could compete with in the transfer market. So possibly our achievements deserve higher praise which I was offering. To do it once as Leicester City did, as exceptional as it was, turned out to be a one season wonder. Our efforts, were not. Credit where credit is due.

COYS

 

[Riandor]

I think you and others are massively overstating how much Walker would improve City and the effect losing him would have on us. RB is not one of the key positions on the pitch - Chelsea won the league with a player who had never played in that position before. If the manager believes that we can perform to the same level or above with a different RB then who are we to argue? The furore about all this is ridiculous. I could understand it if we were selling eriksen, Kane, dele, Dier - who are still young enough to improve and key in their positions but a 27 yr old right back with many of the same flaws he had 5 years ago - nah, I don't get it

But Chelsea were very strong in other areas.
If they had a decent right back to boot they would be even better. Thats the point.
Man City would be improved by signing Walker and we would be weakened. By how much remains to be seen, but if we want to stay ahead of City, then these are the types of moves I would prefer to avoid.

Thus if Bayern or Barcelona are in for him as rumoured, then I would prefer him to go there.

 

[Lighty64]

Because he mostly plays against the bantha fodder?

We lost 4 league matches last season, 3 against other top 6 teams, and Walker started all 4, so he doesn't make as much a difference. I like Walker but the only reason he was classed as the best RB in the league was down to our defencive record, and I don't remember to many matches he was our Motm.

He wants out because of money, and not being able to play in certain matches, so really its money because Alves will be 1st choice

 

[Spurrific]

We lost 4 league matches last season, 3 against other top 6 teams, and Walker started all 4, so he doesn't make as much a difference. I like Walker but the only reason he was classed as the best RB in the league was down to our defencive record, and I don't remember to many matches he was our Motm.

He wants out because of money, and not being able to play in certain matches, so really its money because Alves will be 1st choice

This desperation to make out Walker wasn't important to us is embarrassing. The bold part particularly is bollocks.

There's a reason City are after Walker and not Trippier, but you lot can live in denial all you want. Bayern, Barca, City, United, Chelsea have all been linked with Walker and it's not because Toby and Jan are so good.

I don't even care if Walker goes anymore, he's a prick for the timing of his kicking up a stink and chasing the dollar bills, but the rewriting of history doesn't sit right with me.

 

[Jamturk]

This desperation to make out Walker wasn't important to us, is embarrassing. The bold part particularly is bollocks.

There's a reason City are after Walker and not Trippier, but you lot can live in denial all you want. Bayern, Barca, City, United, Chelsea have all been linked with Walker and it's not because Toby and Jan are so good.

I don't even care if Walker goes anymore, he's a prick for the timing of his kicking up a stink and chasing the dollar bills, but the rewriting of history doesn't sit right with me.

Oh come on, it just helps to make us feel better

 

[E17yid]

This desperation to make out Walker wasn't important to us, is embarrassing. The bold part particularly is bollocks.

There's a reason City are after Walker and not Trippier, but you lot can live in denial all you want. Bayern, Barca, City, United, Chelsea have all been linked with Walker and it's not because Toby and Jan are so good.

I don't even care if Walker goes anymore, he's a prick for the timing of his kicking up a stink and chasing the dollar bills, but the rewriting of history doesn't sit right with me.

There's also a reason why his fellow professionals voted him the best RB in the league, and it ain't coz they think he's not very good at defending

 

[C0YS]

Thing is I like Walker, I think he is a great player, but by the end of the season Trippier was there on merit. I still don't trust him for the big games, but his exemplary patience has paid off.

 

[Lighty64]

Actually no. Trippier's 6 premiership starts included Arsenal & Man Utd and away at West Ham. Statistically at least Walker had the easier starts. Small sample though so a pinch of salt needed.

Trippier never started Wet Spam away, he came on in the 80th minute.

As I've said before I like Walker, but he is so frustrating. So many times he has got into a position that should cause danger to the ops defence, and failed to even threaten. Also I know this might sound weird but how many others get so frustrated in the time it takes him to take a throw-in?

I don't remember 1 single game where he did something that either save us or won us a match, yes plenty of very good games, which usually coincided with the team as a whole having a very good game.

If he had the delivery of Trips I would be totally gutted to see him depart, and I just wished Trips had the pace of Walker, but after 8 years last season was most probably his best for us, with a lot less brain farts than any previous.

 

[voxy28]

50M ain't gonna get us a good RWB and with some to invest in a good attacker. Might end up with no one.....

IMO, it unnecessary to let him go this coming season.

 

[tiger666]

IMO, it unnecessary to let him go this coming season.

What if he wants to leave.

 

[wingvaldsen]

Why can`t we just have it like it is? Trippier being destroyed by great left-wings like Mane, Martial and Hazard? Play Walker. The other team parks the bus and Walker contributes with nothing? Play Trippier.

We have the best RB in the league, and probably the best back-up as well. If we have any sort of ambitions we should keep the, both. Signing a new player (RB) is not a warranty whatsoever that it will work out or improve our squad.

 

[voxy28]

What if he wants to leave.

But it's up to the club not him since there is a contract. He should honor it till club says he can go.... isn't that the way it should be?

 

[tiger666]

But it's up to the club not him since there is a contract. He should honor it till club says he can go.... isn't that the way it should be?

Yes that is the way it should be. That often isn't the way it is.

 

[nailsy]

Why can`t we just have it like it is? Trippier being destroyed by great left-wings like Mane, Martial and Hazard? Play Walker. The other team parks the bus and Walker contributes with nothing? Play Trippier.

We have the best RB in the league, and probably the best back-up as well. If we have any sort of ambitions we should keep the, both. Signing a new player (RB) is not a warranty whatsoever that it will work out or improve our squad.

I suspect that this is what Poch wants to do, but Walker isn't happy with the rotation. I don't see that it will be much different at City, but at least he'll be paid more to sit on the bench.

 

[voxy28]

Yes that is the way it should be. That often isn't the way it is.

Well, a lot of players didn't get their dream move. If they sulk it will affect their WC chances. So I don't think Walker would want to rot on the bench if it doesn't materialize, I think he would play his ass off for the last 5 yrs of his useful athletic life.

Of course injury etc but it's a gamble and I think it is worth considering it given the inflated price. We are not going to get decent players after getting cover for Walker. I would not even want to risk it bec we will lack options since we need the width in wembly.

Sell him when we have that figure out in a transitional season. It's to ensure we are sound defensively and don't tell me Trippier is good enuf. People who says this have not watch entire game.