Lamela needs a run in the 10 position...

[Mr Pink]

I think all the "I told you so" bs needs to stop on this forum in regards to Lamela

It's almost as if some fans are so caught up in their side of the debate on here that they want him to do poorly in order to be right. This is not helped by fans on the opposite side of the fence being dicks about every positive thing he ever does and calling those who they debate with "idiots" etc - it only perpetuates the polarisation and makes people take harder stances in the position on the debate

We can all agree he's a talented player - I don't think anyone doubts that

We can all agree he's been disappointing so far - of course some think this more than others which is fine

We all seem to agree he looks unsuited physically to our league, when played at RWF anyway but we should all be encouraged that he's shown potential as a No.10. There's no need to have the silly back and forth arguments now the window is closed, whether or not he should be sold is irrelevant now. He;s with us and it's in everyone's best interest that he does well for the club

No we shouldn't get carried away by one decent 1/4 of a match cameo, and yes there were still aspects of poor play in that performance. It is however ridiculous to dismiss what he and indeed Townsend did against Sunderland because when all is set and done their respective performances were key to us winning the game

I really think we should drop the arguments at this point and stop the agenda's (both positive and negative) because I'm pretty sure all our opinions are actually much closer together than the nature of debate and desire to be right and say I told you so make it seem. We all know he has talent, we all know he's under performed and we all want him to do well, don't we?

Absolutely, it shouldn't be about agendas or who's right or wrong. I just want whats best for the team and giving Lamela a chance in his best position could potentially improve us IMO.

That's why I want to see him given a go there, simple as that.

I've been very critical regarding Townsend's game but he did well on Sunday and showed more maturity by playing more for the team. I'll always give credit when its due, we all want what's best for the team anyway.

 

[spursfan77]

Ive been saying for months he needs to be given the number 10 position and be allowed to play it like a Le Tissier kind of role. Basically get on the ball, make things happen in the oppositions half but thats it. You've no defensive responsibility (except closing down nearby players obviously) just go out there and enjoy yourself.

There's zero chance pochettino will let him do that obviously, but the player just doesn't seem to be enjoying his football. I just think he needs to be given some freedom to actually enjoy playing again.

 

[Joeyboey]

He was also in the dizzy penalties video the official channel posted today. I think he'll feature next week.

This was recorded a month or so ago. I remember hearing a talking head for the Charity this is promoting talking about Spurs involvement.

 

[eddiev14]

Care to mention these 1 in 3 runs your on about?

You're right, it's probably worse than that

 

[jezz]

You're right, it's probably worse than that

Probably not but it's all opinions

 

[cliff jones]

Off the pace haha really ?
A manager dropping Totti from the roma side is basically sacking himself or risking assassination.
1. Totti is a roma legend amongst the fans 2. He is actually pretty darn good 3. lamela was a new youngster do you really believe that a manager would have dropped the club icon ?
Sorry mate you have that completely wrong.
Avb was in full sulk mode by then but he played him ,Sherwood was to busy self promoting himself as the new redknapp to the press and insulting the lad for being injured.
He probably gets less playing time under poch because of all the haters who can't accept that lamela isn't Gareth bale but he is a no 10 was a no 10 and will continue to be a no 10
Just as an also when I said he was a no 10 in Argentina I meant for his club not internationally

You were going well till the last para. He hasnt impressed, simple as that. He hasnt won the trust of the current coach because of a string of sub par performances. Hes had space on the right to cut in, and pick his pass or shot, but come up short time and time again. However cute the pass was at the weekend, he has a long way to go to convince.

 

[DHMadboy]

Just to throw something out there....

Maybe once the defence has had some playing time and become a more cohesive unit, which they are appearing to do, and Dier has gained the experience he needs at DM, just maybe he could look to a 4-1-4-1 formation.

Lloris
Walker Vertongen Alderweireld Rose

Dier

in the 2 CM/AM roles 2 of

Lamela, Eriksen, Dembele, Mason

then in the wide positions 2 of

Chadli, Townsend, N'jie, Son, Alli

and Kane up front

 

[eddiev14]

Probably not but it's all opinions

Yeah, exactly.

Like I said, I would love him to make it with us

 

[fletch82]

You were going well till the last para. He hasnt impressed, simple as that. He hasnt won the trust of the current coach because of a string of sub par performances. Hes had space on the right to cut in, and pick his pass or shot, but come up short time and time again. However cute the pass was at the weekend, he has a long way to go to convince.

A ha ha but I never said he had impressed the current coach so I think you should take it back and just accept that it was damn good

And he may not have impressed you me or anyone but he may have ,only poch knows that so until poch tells you he has been garbage I'm sticking with my ner ner na ner ner response

 

[jezz]

You were going well till the last para. He hasnt impressed, simple as that. He hasnt won the trust of the current coach because of a string of sub par performances. Hes had space on the right to cut in, and pick his pass or shot, but come up short time and time again. However cute the pass was at the weekend, he has a long way to go to convince.

Really?
Care to name these lost opportunities that you claim to have seen?

 

[Sudburyspur]

You were going well till the last para. He hasnt impressed, simple as that. He hasnt won the trust of the current coach because of a string of sub par performances. Hes had space on the right to cut in, and pick his pass or shot, but come up short time and time again. However cute the pass was at the weekend, he has a long way to go to convince.

Thing is I didn't see anybody else play a "cute pass" that opened up the defence.

 

[cliff jones]

Really?
Care to name these lost opportunities that you claim to have seen?

Name opportunities? haha.

i think i will call this one alan. its on a loop. You know where hes on the right corner of the box, where a E30m player ought to be able to create something. He rolls his left studs over the ball, does a stepover, then prods it forward with his trusted right foot, then realises the defender is just standing watching him, thinking, yeah, and?! He passes it back to walker, or gives the keeper catching practice. You cant remember his shots because he cant actually get away from his man.

Whilst im on, I also like his sliding lunge finish like v real in the friendly, identical to his key miss at anfield last season, just inside the six yard box this time. Harder to miss than score. But with that technique, with your instep pointing north, you tend to miss high. A different type of skill i know, but one hes equally adept at.

you like him, good for you. I think less of him. I think weve made signings because he hasnt stepped up.

 

[yankspurs]

Will be interesting because Poch rates Ali very highly and see' this role as the one he is best suited to atm. That means Eriksen, Lamela, Ali and Pritch will all be vying for the same spot. Don't be surprised to see the young gun win out in the long run though, he is very highly rated by the gaffer.

Why does Poch have this false perception that a MF who scores goals is always an AM? Mindboggling. Alli's best position is at CM. Just ask the manager who knows him alot better than Poch.

Yet another mark in the cons on the pro/con poch chart. Very con heavy chart, that.

 

[cliff jones]

Thing is I didn't see anybody else play a "cute pass" that opened up the defence.

Thats your thing. My thing is he lacks an all round game for a top forward, pace, dribbling, shooting, heading, although i share your fondness for the reverse ball he plays so well. But as i said earlier masons interplay, enterprise and skill should be the main talking point.

 

[cliff jones]

Why does Poch have this false perception that a MF who scores goals is always an AM? Mindboggling. Alli's best position is at CM. Just ask the manager who knows him alot better than Poch.

Yet another mark in the cons on the pro/con poch chart. Very con heavy chart, that.

He doesnt. Mason is a case in point. Hes expected to make runs from deeper. We are not 4141, but i hope we will look more like i particularly at home v park the bus and break type opponents.

 

[Trix]

Why does Poch have this false perception that a MF who scores goals is always an AM? Mindboggling. Alli's best position is at CM. Just ask the manager who knows him alot better than Poch.

Yet another mark in the cons on the pro/con poch chart. Very con heavy chart, that.

Playing in league 1is very different to the Prem, perhaps he would like to get him used to the pace and physicality in a less demanding physically speaking position.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Bollocks. The pass for the goal was only one of a few that he did in the limited time he came on, which transformed the game. Trust a hater to have blinkered vision or selective memory.

Bit self righteous that.

I mean if no one agrees with your perspective they become a "hater" and have a "blinkered" view of a player. Great way to open up a debate on here. Is Poch a "hater" as well, because his early substitutions of Lamela and lack of giving Lamela first team starts would suggest so using your theory?

Lamela i would say has been picked on merit, his effort during training, the opposition we face from game to game and how Poch wants the team to play in the system he wants. I see nothing wrong with that and as a fellow Argie at least Poch is selecting a team based on merit.

It appears that a coupe of good passes Lamela made on Sunday has warped a lot of peoples opinion on his overall game, which in truth given his whole body of work includes as many fouls, losing of possession and running down blind alleys as it does defence splitting passes. Perhaps, just perhaps Poch see's his overall game that way too, but without hating the player?

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Off the pace haha really ?

He probably gets less playing time under poch because of all the haters who can't accept that lamela isn't Gareth bale but he is a no 10 was a no 10 and will continue to be a no 10

I think you should reconsider that post.

 

[yiddo23]

Lamela has created more chances per 90 min than any player in Europe's top 5 leagues... Fact

 

[Xeeleeyid]

Why does Poch have this false perception that a MF who scores goals is always an AM? Mindboggling. Alli's best position is at CM. Just ask the manager who knows him alot better than Poch.

Yet another mark in the cons on the pro/con poch chart. Very con heavy chart, that.

Love how:

- you're totally unqualified but you have decided Ali's best position despite it (correct me if I'm wrong) being a position he hasn't played or rarely played?

- you've decided what Pochettino thinks about players, probably without ever speaking to the guy about it, or even speaking to someone that has spoken to someone who has spoken to him about it.

- Seems to be an implication that Pochettino is some kind of mentalist for wanting an attacking midfielder that scores goals.

- Decided to put a con against our manager because of what someone has written on a forum rather than form your own opinion or watch how the season plays out.

What a guy.