Lamela needs a run in the 10 position...

[fletch82]

Part of the reason people give you negative rep is because you bite over and over and bleat about it !
It's a man thing if you bite people will do it more as it becomes funny
The other part is you are in fairness a little sanctimonious mate
If people want a preacher they tend to go to church.
Before you get all upset I'm not having a dig it's just a observation even your avatar is banging on about censorship of your right to speak
Lighten up a bit dude smile it's not that serious

 

[UpTownSpur]

He's never had a regular run in the #10 position, ever. I don't think he's had 3 in a row starting in any position. You try to perform at optimum in anything, sport or work, when someone keeps interrupting your progress.

Your cries for Prichard are a little premature too, seeing as he, to my knowledge, has never started a Premiership game.

Like I said, if he isn't performing in a game he can be subbed. If he doesn't show enough after 4 to merit a 5th game then hook him.

Maybe you'll notice I said that this time, seeing as I've been good enough to repeat myself.

I'm good like that, courteous you know.

Really, really top players can play well in multiple positions - people talk about sticking Eriksen on the left because they know he'll play well there and contribute, Mason can play multiple roles. Kane could be very effective out wide. Lamela has been an abject failure as a wide midfielder, on either flank, and it's wishful thinking to believe he could play in the middle and become a world beater, as we saw against Leicester - the game was too fast for him and passed him by.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Doesn't Eriksen, based on past performances, deserve to start ahead of Lamela?

how long can you dine out on past performances though? he hasn't performed since january, time for a change.

 

[dudu]

how long can you dine out on past performances though? he hasn't performed since january, time for a change.

Have to agree with this. I am not Lamela's biggest fan but I am always happy to be proved wrong and he deserves a crack at the No 10 -

Eriksen has certainly lacked something for a while now. I love the guy but he needs to get back to his best and sometimes, having to watch from the sidelines for a little bit can help to refocus.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

in EPL, wingers without top speed isn't good, specially with systems where you've 1 striker.

Under Martin Jol, we used 4-4-2 with Lennon on RM and Malbranque as LM - who wasn't very quick, MJ stated that putting hardworking player on either flanks provide balance for the team, that's why he used Tainio & Davids as well there, it's worked so well.
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Under Harry, in his first a few months, he used with Modric on the same position, with the same system, that's took us from relegation battle to 8th place, including wins against Chelsea 1-0 & we almost beat United at OT if it wasn't that penalty. Little by little Harry abandoned his classic tactics, he doubted Modric as CM but forced to use it when Zokora sent off against WBA (A) , and when he opened us his eyes on 4-2-3-1, he used VDV as RW, he were boring with it, and i see it costs us several points during his last months, which saw us losing 10 points lead above Arsenal. People linked losing CL place with due to England Job link. It wasn't true. Harry was lost tactically in last months.

under AVB, he just did the same, switched Gareth Bale from LW to AM, and slow player like Sigurdsson as LW, yeah both scored decent/good goals, but we were VERY boring. Waiting for 1 second moment to use good foot and forget the display during the whole 90 mins is just stupid call. You've to work about how can you produce good football.

this was an introduce about what i would like to say about Eric Lamela..
I didn't see enough for him in AS Roma apart from Youtubes, but when he came, I saw he had true talent, but he lacks enough pace to play in wide positions in EPL, at least against top sides, I said it several times under AVB era, Lamela best position is second striker, and may be in similar rule to Robbie Keane in 4-4-2 or Rooney at united behind Berbatove.
Ideally, I wished Lennon as RM and Erikson as LM, Lamela as second striker (on right side) behind 1 striker.
similar formation under Harry, Lennon on RM, Modric LM, Keane as scond striker behind 1 striker.

Lamela had killer foot. He can score good goals from outside the box, just because he scored good goals from right side positions doesn't mean it's his best position, it's similar situation to Sigurdsson/AVB, you can't put a player in position just to wait for such moment during 90 mins, this moment might not come. this type of rule can be used only on necessary Circumstances or against weak teams in Cups. Other than that? Son and then Townsend are above him on RW in my books.

the problem with No.10, we've enough of them at the club in recent years, I can see all of Dembele, Holtby, Sigurdsson, Paulinho, Eriksen are better as behind striker, this forced to use Dembele as deep-playmaker, Paulinho as CM, Sigurdsson as LW, and we failed to discover Lamela best place. I remember Tim Sherwood already said Paulinho/Dembele isn't good enough for CM in EPL, That's why he recalled Bentaleb. He also said Lamela is better as second striker.

the good with the arrival of Son, and Townsend on RW, Lamela chances as RW become less, Lamela within a few mins as behind striker, he did well. a run of games there needed. It should be his chance to prove his worth.

 

[Ionman34]

Really, really top players can play well in multiple positions - people talk about sticking Eriksen on the left because they know he'll play well there and contribute, Mason can play multiple roles. Kane could be very effective out wide. Lamela has been an abject failure as a wide midfielder, on either flank, and it's wishful thinking to believe he could play in the middle and become a world beater, as we saw against Leicester - the game was too fast for him and passed him by.

Both Kane and Mason have had runs to cement their places and their confidence. Both have had their stinkers too... In their preferred positions.

You're still carrying on like its being suggested that the others are consigned to oblivion. We're suggesting he be given a run to prove he is worthy of the role, probably his last chance, as non performance will settle the vast majority on your side of the argument.

You may be right, but don't you think a run of 4 games a small price to pay if there is a chance of you being wrong? If he can do enough in 4, wouldn't you welcome a 5th? A 6th if he's performing?

That's the crux of it, give him the opportunity to settle and prove himself once and for all, or fail and move on.

 

[UpTownSpur]

Have to agree with this. I am not Lamela's biggest fan but I am always happy to be proved wrong and he deserves a crack at the No 10 -

Eriksen has certainly lacked something for a while now. I love the guy but he needs to get back to his best and sometimes, having to watch from the sidelines for a little bit can help to refocus.

Eriksen could certainly do with a Davies to his Danny Rose, I just don't think it's Lamela - he will never get the goals Eriksen does from 15+ yards out - he has a limited shooting technique - left footed curler from the right hand part of the pitch is about it (check out his Roma goals and his goal for us), nothing with the right, can't seem to do hard and low either.

 

[fletch82]

There really shouldn't be anything wrong with fans wanting the record signing to succeed
I don't think he has done enough but I think he should most definitely be given the chance to succeed and for that to happen it has to be in the no 10 role as he has shown it's not happening out wide

 

[guy]

Eriksen has been woeful to average for quite some time, he really shouldn't be an automatic starter. Lamela or Pritchard should be given a chancefor 3+ starts in the league. At this moment in time lamela has earned it more than Pritchard.

 

[UpTownSpur]

Eriksen has been woeful to average for quite some time, he really shouldn't be an automatic starter. Lamela or Pritchard should be given a chancefor 3+ starts in the league. At this moment in time lamela has earned it more than Pritchard.

It's the shooting technique that gets Pritchard ahead for me:



Lamela simply isn't capable of scoring many of those goals. I imagine a few people will disagree with this post, making the assumption that of course Lamela can shoot like that, then please show me examples of it. And people will say Pritchard has only done it in the Championship, but Mason had only done it in League One, and hardly set that alight, yet he's in the England squad now.

 

[E17yid]

Erik Lamela: Mauricio Pochettino says Spurs midfielder faces key season
Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Erik Lamela faces a make-or-break season after struggling since arriving at the club, says manager Mauricio Pochettino.

The Argentina international, 23, is the club's record £25.7m signing, but scored two league goals last season.

Lamela has previously been tipped as the new Lionel Messi in his homeland by Spurs legend Ossie Ardiles.

Pochettino said: "I think this is a key season for him. After two seasons at Tottenham, now is the moment for him."

He added: "We believe we can develop his game and I think we need to be patient with him."

The midfielder provided the assist for Spurs' goal in their first win of the season against Sunderland on Saturday.

Lamela scored a memorable 'rabona-style' goal for Spurs in the Europa League last year and he was compared to Argentina team-mate and Barcelona forward Messi as he scored 15 goals in 33 games for previous club Roma.

Lamela is set to start for Spurs in the club's home game against Azerbaijan champions Qarabag in the Europa League, which kicks off on Thursday at 20.05 BST.

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/792572077?-11179:5808:0

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Personally I think Pritchard should be given a run there. It was a ludicrous decision to play Alli there, when Pritchard is infinitely more experienced and proven in AM roles.

Just put Lamela back at ARM and play Eriksen/Son/N'Jie/Chadli as ALM.

Dier as CM when we have Veljkovic, Alli as the ACM when we have Pritchard. It's great playing youth, but playing them in out of position and tactically shooting yourself up the arse kind of negates the plus points for playing them in the first place.

 

[danielneeds]

Personally I think Pritchard should be given a run there. It was a ludicrous decision to play Alli there, when Pritchard is infinitely more experienced and proven in AM roles.

Just put Lamela back at ARM and play Eriksen/Son/N'Jie/Chadli as ALM.

Dier as CM when we have Veljkovic, Alli as the ACM when we have Pritchard. It's great playing youth, but playing them in out of position and tactically shooting yourself up the arse kind of negates the plus points for playing them in the first place.

Christ no, would rather Pritch playing wide than Lamela. At least he's got a low centre of gravity and can twist and turn past people.

 

[Ossie85]

Christ no, would rather Pritch playing wide than Lamela. At least he's got a low centre of gravity and can twist and turn past people.

Absolutely. In fact I would never put Lamela on the right anymore. It doesn't and will never work

 

[cliff jones]

Thanks for avoiding the question.
Which is exactly what I thought would happen.
I don't mind debating but at least have some substance to your statements.
You don't rate, fair enough that's your onion.
But try to sound credible and back up your statements with something tangible.
Like I would say to you Lamela creates decent chances in pretty much 99% of games.
That's why he has the most assists in our team.
If you want to include friendlies then Lamela scored 8 goals last year.

Your question was totally unrealistic. I clearly recall major incidents and trends, but not every time
Lamela fucks up. when he came on v stoke the crowd became uneasy at his use of the ball and needless fouling in dangerous areas.that was my last direct experience. I gave you reasonable evidence of where he endlessly fucks up. Poch has come out i see saying hes in the last chance saloon. Rightly so.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Totally agree.

In fact I would say this is one of his main strengths.

I find it a bit strange if Poch's plan is to play him in the number 10 position given our current, and IMO more suitable, options - and Alli's ability to drive from deep and arrive late into the box to finish things off.

Alli to me looks like a dynamic box to box type- not a cunning and incisive passer in and around the edge of the box like Lamela, for example.

Time will tell I guess.

From BBC Sport today:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34264392

Pochettino said: "I think this is a key season for him. After two seasons at Tottenham, now is the moment for him."

He added: "We believe we can develop his game and I think we need to be patient with him."



Agreed, no one should expect an overnight success, even after a couple of seasons. I'd be happy to see Lamela come along and make an impact, just hope that his contract doesn't run out beforehand.............

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

I don't understand your reasoning here. You seem to be working on the assumption that he'll get an entire season whether he plays garbage or not, resulting in us losing goals that others would provide.

That is not what Pinky, or anyone else, has been suggesting. Give him a few games starting. If he's having a mare, sub him, but start him in the next game and the next. 4 games is what I'd give to show me what he can do. Show enough by the 4th then you get a 5th etc. if he's showing enough then it means we will be scoring goals, either through him or by him.

If he shows zero improvement over the 4 games, THEN hook him indefinitely. I can't really see him staying with us for too much longer should that happen.

I think it's a gamble that will pay off in spades myself, but then I've been wrong before, too many times for comfort.

Think we have been through that routine with him already?

Let him start in all the EL group games and go from there. Let him build confidence from that set up, and perhaps then he can challenge Son, Eriksen and Clinton for a starting place. At this moment in time i cannot see him getting in front of any of those three once all are fit and rearing to go?

 

[fletch82]

Think we have been through that routine with him already?

Let him start in all the EL group games and go from there. Let him build confidence from that set up, and perhaps then he can challenge Son, Eriksen and Clinton for a starting place. At this moment in time i cannot see him getting in front of any of those three once all are fit and rearing to go?

That's what the majority are trying to say though he hasn't been given that much of a chance at all he has been played out of his natural position one which evidence suggests he is unsuited for in this country.
So people want to see him in his natural position for a few games as it's getting to that last chance situation and he is a club record signing
If kane had a few shit games at c/half would that make him unworthy of a game at c/forward ?
It's more the wanting him to succeed rather than people saying he is guaranteed to succeed imo and unless he is given a go there we will never know

 

[jezz]

Your question was totally unrealistic. I clearly recall major incidents and trends, but not every time
Lamela fucks up. when he came on v stoke the crowd became uneasy at his use of the ball and needless fouling in dangerous areas.that was my last direct experience. I gave you reasonable evidence of where he endlessly fucks up. Poch has come out i see saying hes in the last chance saloon. Rightly so.

Endless fuck ups?
Seriously your everything that's wrong with negative fans.
You try to remember every fcuk up and ignore everything else.
Toby even said in the press it was his mistake that allowed Stoke back into the game but nope it's Lamela's fault.
I suppose he had fcuk all to do with us winning our first game?
You couldn't answer the question because what you said was incorrect.
Sorry if it doesn't fit your onion but facts are facts.

 

[jezz]

Eriksen could certainly do with a Davies to his Danny Rose, I just don't think it's Lamela - he will never get the goals Eriksen does from 15+ yards out - he has a limited shooting technique - left footed curler from the right hand part of the pitch is about it (check out his Roma goals and his goal for us), nothing with the right, can't seem to do hard and low either.

Err he scored against Brighton with his right foot.