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Snarfalicious

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Ah, so refreshing to see a young, talented player that actually knows how to interact with the media and say all the right things.
 

Bulletspur

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There's nothing wrong with getting it wrong about a player - I am sure we all have from time to time, it's the nature of an opinionated passionate fan (which we all are to be on a forum like this) to express both pros and cons of players as we see them and no one can be right about everything all the time

I myself never saw the true value of Carrick and even thought we were mugging Man U off Keane to Liverpool style when they paid what they paid for him (only after the event did I recognise his value really)

The problem isn't being wrong - the problem is when fans stick to their guns just for the sake of not wanting to admit they were wrong and being stubborn where it becomes almost a cut your nose off to spite your face situation and it seems like people grudge the player doing well because they don't want to be seen as being wrong with their initial assessment
Any examples you can think of?
I did a thread about a year ago along the lines "Admit where you were wrong" where I conceded that I was wrong about a player. I was really surprised at the response where others owned up about being wrong about various players. So I don't believe it as bad as all that.
People do see things from a different perspective. If they have a different view from yours just accept it. In your scenario if these people genuinely thought Modric (and now Lamela) was not that good, why expect them to admit to being wrong, when in their hearts they think they are right?
 

jezz

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Any examples you can think of?
I did a thread about a year ago along the lines "Admit where you were wrong" where I conceded that I was wrong about a player. I was really surprised at the response where others owned up about being wrong about various players. So I don't believe it as bad as all that.
People do see things from a different perspective. If they have a different view from yours just accept it. In your scenario if these people genuinely thought Modric (and now Lamela) was not that good, why expect them to admit to being wrong, when in their hearts they think they are right?
Someone posted the other night Lamela's goal was the wrong kind of goal.
What does that actually mean?
Another posted he gave the ball away 50 times against Liverpool. Really?
What annoys me is, if you don't rate a player fair enough.
But making up stuff to make your point is bollocks.
 

Bulletspur

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...that goal last night was a sparkler - let's hope Lamela can do it in a Spurs' shirt...
...let's face it - he has a lot of work to do to get over the "Lame-ela" moniker from last year's flop - he is going to have to play D and prove he is strong enough on and off the ball to warrant a starting XI place as one of the 3 AM's, which admittedly isn't hard over Lennon, Paulinho, Kane, and Townsend (who seems to have regressed from last year)...
COYS
Probably you, but he has nothing to prove to me
 

Bulletspur

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Someone posted the other night Lamela's goal was the wrong kind of goal.
What does that actually mean?
Another posted he gave the ball away 50 times against Liverpool. Really?
What annoys me is, if you don't rate a player fair enough.
But making up stuff to make your point is bollocks.
Jezz I agree with you 100% but as I said above others see things differently and as annoying and fustrating as it is, we have to just accept it. I would not change my opinion or views either if I genuinely believe them, even it is in the minority of a popular consensus.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Jezz I agree with you 100% but as I said above others see things differently and as annoying and fustrating as it is, we have to just accept it. I would not change my opinion or views either if I genuinely believe them, even it is in the minority of a popular consensus.
Oi, read my counter-arguments that I spent time writing :)
 

Matrix

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Someone posted the other night Lamela's goal was the wrong kind of goal.
What does that actually mean?
Another posted he gave the ball away 50 times against Liverpool. Really?
What annoys me is, if you don't rate a player fair enough.
But making up stuff to make your point is bollocks.

If he didn't try something to get past players or try audacious passes he would be classed as someone who offers nothing. Can't win.
It's like the people who defend Lennon. Never tries anything nowadays but he gets kudos for backing up our right back.

Weird.
 

HW61

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Watched parts of the Argentina game. I love his tenacity and willingness to show for the ball all over the pitch. His growing confidence and contentment in being at Spurs is obvious. To me, he is more of a number 10, as was his role at River Plate. He's a quick passer and receiver of the ball and not a guy who's game is based on dribbling passed several players. He has that in his bag when the opportunity presents but instinctively it's not what drives him. Poch has seen this. Maybe those who are not convinced on Lamela expected to see him or just prefer skilful players who drift passed the opposition with the ball. It seems his football upbringing is based more on awareness and intelligence. To me it's a joy to watch these kind of players. There was a reason why he seems to have been such a fans favourite at his 1st two clubs and they are no doubt as fussy and demanding as we are.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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There's nothing wrong with getting it wrong about a player - I am sure we all have from time to time, it's the nature of an opinionated passionate fan (which we all are to be on a forum like this) to express both pros and cons of players as we see them and no one can be right about everything all the time

I myself never saw the true value of Carrick and even thought we were mugging Man U off Keane to Liverpool style when they paid what they paid for him (only after the event did I recognise his value really)

The problem isn't being wrong - the problem is when fans stick to their guns just for the sake of not wanting to admit they were wrong and being stubborn where it becomes almost a cut your nose off to spite your face situation and it seems like people grudge the player doing well because they don't want to be seen as being wrong with their initial assessment

It is a little odd when people do that. If I don't rate a player at Spurs, I desperately want to be wrong on every occasion. At the moment, I have a bit of a downer on Townsend and Paulinho, because I do not see what they offer the team and i've seen too many poor performances from both/ However, i'd be so happy if they started setting the prem on fire (not literally of course) and proved to me how little I know about talent!

But I do rate Lamela and think he has all the hall marks of being a superb talent.
 

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Lamela will be top notch. Working with Poch fellow countryman has worked wonders for him. After watching him against QPR and during the summer it is clear for all to see that he is a very good player who still need "Shelter from the storm" and as far as I am concerned Spursplayers should do all they can to protect him during games because he will be a very important player for us during this season.
 

Khilari

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I'm not big on the whole twitter thingy, but I now love Coco more after he favourited my tweet. I feel as though I've been cyberloved from up above.
 

beats1

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Sterling has also had far better luck with injuries than Townsend and has therefore had less of a stunted integration. It also helps when, as a forward player, the midfield moves the ball as quickly as Liverpools. Too often our players are left facing 2-3 shirts and have to pull off something magical (like Lamela against QPR), instead of the whole team pulling players around. It makes it so much easier for quick, young players and is a big reason why Lennon was so good earlier on in his career.
Also helps when you have a manager like Rodgers, who works great with wingers and AM's
Routledge: 17 Starts, 7 assists and 1 goals
Sinclair: 35 starts, 5 assists and 8 goals
Dyer: 30 starts, 2 assists and 6 goals
Sigurdsson: 17 starts, 5 assists and 8 goals

Other than Dyer, those are career high stats for those players
 

Kendall

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Someone posted the other night Lamela's goal was the wrong kind of goal.
What does that actually mean?
Another posted he gave the ball away 50 times against Liverpool. Really?
What annoys me is, if you don't rate a player fair enough.
But making up stuff to make your point is bollocks.

Something you have been incredibly guilty of regarding Townsend last year.
 
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