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Ledley King is slow.

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quite simply ledley can read the game better, has more pace, can pass a ball and organizes the defence better than most of the other defenders in the premier league.
 

roosh

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I was out with non Yids last night and tried to make them see the light about Ledders. I said he was, with Ferdinand, the best defender in England and that with him we are a different side as it kind of started about whether Rednapp had peformed 'miracles' and I said one of the simple things he had done was play King in league games. They didn't think he was very good and 'too slow' :rofl:

I guess the point of this thread was ideas about how to sell the idea, no fact, that King is the best centre back out there. I conceded Rio was on a par possibly but got pretty flabbergasted when it was claimed that the following are better;

Jaglieka, Terry, Lescott, Carragher and Woodgate even.

What is wrong with some people?

I presume that the discussion was about English centre backs as opposed to centre backs in england.

he is still one of the best centre backs in England, but the glaring omission of Vidic is what makes me presume that
 

llamafarmer

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I firmly believe he'd be right up there as one of the top handful of defenders in the world if it weren't for his injuries (he certainly is in terms of talent). He also wouldn't be playing for us, so every cloud...

To call him slow is ludicrous, he takes a few strides to get those long legs up to speed, but over a distance there's probably very few players in the PL who could outrun him.
 

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Vidic could become as good as Ledley, but Ledders strength is his flawless footballing brain. He's like a chess master - he doesn't need to be fast as, by the time the attacker has decided what to do and where to go, King's already there and got his foot in the way. Admittedly, seen him caught on the wrong foot maybe twice since he started playing more regularly but that's rust, it will wear off as he gets back into match fitness.

Actually, i'd probably say Vidic has more promise than Jagielka, Lescott and Taylor put together. The only other Prem defender i think has more in his tank is Micah Richards, but he's rotting at Citeh now and i think needs a shake up to find his feet again. Lot of promise, not enough spirit left to push on.
 

waresy

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quite simply ledley can read the game better, has more pace, can pass a ball and organizes the defence better than most of the other defenders in the premier league.

Quite simply... you cant add more to it than that. A technically superb defender who could quite easily sit as a DM as well playing passes and intecepting.

yeah we maybe bias but there is no denying his class is above all bar 1 or 2 others
 

gibbs131

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Thierry Henry said Ledley king is the best defender he has played against.

He said that he normally speeds past defenders, but with Ledley, he always comes out of nowhere. And it always surprises him the tackles are clean and not bundled over.
 

Bruts

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and he has scored the quickest premiership goal in history :wink:

Ok maybe with the help of a lampard-esque deflection :grin:
 

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Henry was probably the best striker in the world and certainly the PL when this interview was done. Fans, pundits and journalists can all say what they like, but the only worthwhile opinion is from those who play with and against him, and more importantly the best striker around who happens to play for the enemy. That's an unbiased opinion if ever I saw one.

I would take Henry's opinion over your mates.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...as-only-defender-to-tackle-fairly-411517.html
 

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No disrespect to your mates Coyboy, but it is not Ledley who is slow, it is them. In the head.

Ledley is an exceptional talent, even now with his injury problems. Presumably in your mates eyes Capello doesn't know what he is talking about, given that he wants Ledders in his squad even with his problems.
 

roosh

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No disrespect to your mates Coyboy, but it is not Ledley who is slow, it is them. In the head.

hahahaha

Ricky Bobby: With all due respect, Mr. Dennit, I had no idea you'd gotten experimental surgery to have your balls removed.
Mr. Dennit
: What did you just say to me?
Ricky
: What? I said it with all due respect!
Mr. Dennit
: Just because you say that doesn't mean you get to say whatever you want to say to me!
Ricky: It sure as hell does!
Mr. Dennit: No, it doesn't--
Ricky: It's in the Geneva Conventions, look it up!
 

Coyboy

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No offence taken mate they are northerners.
 

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Henry was probably the best striker in the world and certainly the PL when this interview was done. Fans, pundits and journalists can all say what they like, but the only worthwhile opinion is from those who play with and against him, and more importantly the best striker around who happens to play for the enemy. That's an unbiased opinion if ever I saw one.

I would take Henry's opinion over your mates.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...as-only-defender-to-tackle-fairly-411517.html

Henry nails one of the key points about King: he concedes an outrageously low number of free-kicks and picks up so few bookings because his positioning and timing of a tackle are second to none.

In over 250 games for Spurs, he's been booked nine times. Nine. The most yellow cards he's had in a season is two.

I can't be arsed to look, but I'll be absolutely astounded if there is any other centre-back in the modern era with a record anywhere close to that.

EDIT: To put that in some sort of context, John Terry has 10 yellows and two red cards this season, and Rio Ferdinand has picked up 10 bookings over the last two seasons.
 

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EDIT: To put that in some sort of context, John Terry has 10 yellows and two red cards this season, and Rio Ferdinand has picked up 10 bookings over the last two seasons.

But John Terry's a ****?

Comparing Ledley to him is like comparing a Swedish 18 year-old-girl's fresh, sweet, gorgeous vagina to an ugly dog's flea-bitten, kebab-flap, saggy mess of a ****.
 

Tickers

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But John Terry's a ****?

Comparing Ledley to him is like comparing a Swedish 18 year-old-girl's fresh, sweet, gorgeous vagina to an ugly dog's flea-bitten, kebab-flap, saggy mess of a ****.

You know this, Stoof, and I know this. Indeed, everyone here knows this.

But go back to the first post...

I guess the point of this thread was ideas about how to sell the idea, no fact, that King is the best centre back out there. I conceded Rio was on a par possibly but got pretty flabbergasted when it was claimed that the following are better;

Jaglieka, Terry, Lescott, Carragher and Woodgate even.

Clearly there are some proper mentals out there who've gone wrong in the mindbasket and need putting straight.

Which should be achieved by showing them this thread and explaining it in a clear, calm voice.
 

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It's just another case of being led by the nose - Terry gets picked for England in front of Ledders, thus he must be a better player. These are the same idiots who swore Matt Le Tissier wasn't any good, simply because he didn't get to wear the three lions, or that Cloughy wasn't all that because he was denied the boss' job.

It's all cobblers really, especially as these same lot who trudge about after the England team, bemoaning that they underachieve, etc. can't get it into their thick skulls that maybe, just maybe, the team as it would be picked by most fans doesn't have the ingrediants it needs to achieve something. Yes, Terry might be a popular defender, and he's definately got that "hardman" image that England fans love in a centre back but, and i've said this before, it's not a case of getting the players who are singularly impressive, it's about picking players who fit into the team and benefit the rest of the squad overall.

If that was the case then players like Carrick, Bullard and Parker would've had far more game time as their style and personal play might not set the pitch alight, but they give the stability and teamsmanship that can bring the best out of players like Rooney and open up gaps for players like Lennon & Cole.
 
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