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cjsimba

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Exactly and it baffles me how people can even suggest it be mandatory. It should be every humans right to decide whether to get it. By all means they should be encouraged to get a vaccine. By no means they should be forced or pressured into it. At the end of the day if someone decides not to get the vaccine they put themselves at risk not others. The vaccine is there to give you better protection against it but it's a personal choice. Like getting anti virus on your PC doesn't guarantee a virus doesn't get in. It just gives better chance of protecting against it and help prevent it spreading and becoming more damaging if it does.

The vaccine is absolutely not just about giving you yourself better protection. Whilst it does certainly do that, it’s also about reducing the spread of the virus.

To keep it simple - the vaccine reduces the likelihood of you getting covid, meaning if you don’t have it, you are less likely to pass it on to others. It doesn’t 100% stop you getting it but it reduces the chances. If you are unvaccinated you have a higher chance of contracting covid and therefore create a higher chance of passing it on to someone else.

And if you do get it when already vaccinated, not only will your symptoms be less severe meaning you will be less of a drain on hospital resources, the transmission likelihood of passing it onto someone else is lower if that other person is vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

Getting the vaccine isn’t just a choice that solely affects you.

The more unvaccinated there continue to be, the better chance the virus has of surviving for longer, the longer this all goes on for everyone and the more people will suffer and die.
 
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gibbospurs

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The vaccine is absolutely not just about giving you yourself better protection. Whilst it does certainly do that, it’s also about reducing the spread of the virus.

To keep it simple - the vaccine reduces the likelihood of you getting covid, meaning if you don’t have it, you are less likely to pass it on to others. It doesn’t 100% stop you getting it but it reduces the chances. If you are unvaccinated you have a higher chance of contracting covid and therefore create a higher chance of passing it on to someone else.

And if you do get it when already vaccinated, not only will your symptoms be less severe meaning you will be less of a drain on hospital resources, the transmission likelihood of passing it onto someone else is lower if that other person is vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

Getting the vaccine isn’t just a choice that solely affects you.

The more unvaccinated there continue to be, the better chance the virus has of surviving for longer, the longer this all goes on for everyone and the more people will suffer and die.
Brain washed. I did a test tonight as I’ve had a cold and a bad throat for over a week. My god, the amount of plastic and packaging is unreal. Literally 100s of millions of these getting sold to the general public via our taxes. It’s a disgrace. Can’t get a plastic straw in McDonald’s anymore. Jesus. This shit will wipe the ocean out and end the world before this utter bollocks does. One death I heard earlier, and would confirm if there was underlying conditions. They are basically testing for bad colds now. And ruling us over it.
 

curlacious

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The vaccine is absolutely not just about giving you yourself better protection. Whilst it does certainly do that, it’s also about reducing the spread of the virus.

To keep it simple - the vaccine reduces the likelihood of you getting covid, meaning if you don’t have it, you are less likely to pass it on to others. It doesn’t 100% stop you getting it but it reduces the chances. If you are unvaccinated you have a higher chance of contracting covid and therefore create a higher chance of passing it on to someone else.

And if you do get it when already vaccinated, not only will your symptoms be less severe meaning you will be less of a drain on hospital resources, the transmission likelihood of passing it onto someone else is lower if that other person is vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

Getting the vaccine isn’t just a choice that solely affects you.

The more unvaccinated there continue to be, the better chance the virus has of surviving for longer, the longer this all goes on for everyone and the more people will suffer and die.
I do agree with all of this. The choice not to get a vaccine DOES affect others, and the overall outlook of the pandemic. So I want people to get the jab. However, people do have the right not to have something put into their bodies if they don't want to, for whatever reason. I guess I'm comfortable with wanting people to do the 'right thing' while respecting their right not to. I don't feel these views are in conflict.

(I'm most interested in what leads a 'vaccine hesitant' person to get the vaccine, and how we can encourage that through better communications and service provision)
 
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Hans Moleman

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(I'm most interested in what leads a 'vaccine hesitant' person to get the vaccine, and how we can encourage that through better communications and service provision)
I read an interesting article a few weeks ago on this very subject with a guy who used to be the lead negotiator for the FBI in things like hostage situations. Obviously very experienced in finding resolutions from situations like this. What he said is that when talking to people in these situations no amount of facts or reality will make any difference to their opinion and will probably even strengthen their resolve. He said the best technique is to connect with the person on an emotional level before starting to subtly open their mind to other possibilities.
 

spursfan77

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Non football people will start to try and get in cancelled. You can see politicians coming out talking about it going behind closed doors again. That’s what happened last time.
 

ralphs bald spot

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Non football people will start to try and get in cancelled. You can see politicians coming out talking about it going behind closed doors again. That’s what happened last time.

are you surprised? Mr Whitty the other day in his comment about people going to Stadiums to get jabbed rather than watching games brought football into that arena

To be honest its got nothing to do with being football people or not we all have to look after each other one would hope anyway and football has a role to play in that like it or not
 

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Brain washed. I did a test tonight as I’ve had a cold and a bad throat for over a week. My god, the amount of plastic and packaging is unreal. Literally 100s of millions of these getting sold to the general public via our taxes. It’s a disgrace. Can’t get a plastic straw in McDonald’s anymore. Jesus. This shit will wipe the ocean out and end the world before this utter bollocks does. One death I heard earlier, and would confirm if there was underlying conditions. They are basically testing for bad colds now. And ruling us over it.

FREEDOOOOM Brother

One of the few positives to come out of this pandemic is the vast number of Doctors and Virologists that are available on social media to provide expert advice. Its a huge credit to NHS and the medical schools.

My favourite Doctor on social media was the one that adviced me that the vaccine contains microchips that will allow the government to control me.

Its all about control brother



p.s. This post is an attempt to take the piss
 

cjsimba

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Brain washed. I did a test tonight as I’ve had a cold and a bad throat for over a week. My god, the amount of plastic and packaging is unreal. Literally 100s of millions of these getting sold to the general public via our taxes. It’s a disgrace. Can’t get a plastic straw in McDonald’s anymore. Jesus. This shit will wipe the ocean out and end the world before this utter bollocks does. One death I heard earlier, and would confirm if there was underlying conditions. They are basically testing for bad colds now. And ruling us over it
Whilst I respect everyone’s opinion this is not only wrong, it’s dangerous.

Please educate yourself more on what is actually going on in the world, for all our sakes.
 

mil1lion

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25pct of unvaccinated players is a high amount. Clubs really need to do more to educate players and encourage them to get it. I just dont think you should force it on anyone. I do wonder why so many refuse it though. Maybe they take their physical condition for granted and think they'll be able to handle it. I'm fit too though, never had a day off sick from work in over 20 years of working yet had no hesitation getting this vaccine.
 

Mr Pink

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The variants will keep coming...more tests of control.

We'll end up a marxist society!!
 

THFCjosh

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The variants will keep coming...more tests of control.

We'll end up a marxist society!!
Honestly some people's mental gymnastics is astounding. The government are quite rightly being cautious with this variant. I don't think they are acting unreasonable at all, in fact I'm surprised with the lack of new restrictions.

If you were given a packet of sweets and were told this packet might contain poison in one of the 100 sweets, but they aren't sure and will find out and let you know in a few weeks. Are you still going to eat the sweets? This is the same with the virus, it might be deadly but we don't know yet. It's better to err on the side of caution than it is to simply ignore to find out it's deadly.
 

Mate

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I weirdly quite like looking at the table and seeing us have loads of games in hand.

Gets you saying to yourself ‘if we win our games in hand we’ll move up to X position’

Whilst we're sat in 16th...
 

spursfan77

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Honestly some people's mental gymnastics is astounding. The government are quite rightly being cautious with this variant. I don't think they are acting unreasonable at all, in fact I'm surprised with the lack of new restrictions.

If you were given a packet of sweets and were told this packet might contain poison in one of the 100 sweets, but they aren't sure and will find out and let you know in a few weeks. Are you still going to eat the sweets? This is the same with the virus, it might be deadly but we don't know yet. It's better to err on the side of caution than it is to simply ignore to find out it's deadly.

Whilst I agree with what you're saying, their argument will be "what if my body and antibodies are powerful enough to fight off the poison, why shouldn't I enjoy the sweets?"

You cant win with them, best to just ignore them!
 

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Some of you are without doubt, dumber than yak snot. We won't tolerate this bollocks on here so you can keep your fucking stupid and worse, dangerous opinions confined to the vacuum that undoubtably exists between your ears before you find yourselves looking for another site to infest with your rank stupidity.
 
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