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'O Zio

'O Zio

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Westmorland said:
Man City are like Chelsea a very rich club as opposed to big. If city won the league 5 years running plus a couple of champ lge titles they would not be as big as United, never will be . City can hardly fill their ground for champ lge games. In fact their crowd don’t seem up for it at all. The atmosphere is nothing like that at Spurs..Whl or Wembley
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Not sure how you can say that to be honest. Once upon a time Man Utd were a nothing club just like everyone else, then they won a shit load of trophies, established themselves as a massive global brand etc. and now they're one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only a matter of time before Chelsea and City are at that level. Chelsea have already won multiple league titles and the CL, City are well on the way to doing the same within the near future. Atmosphere has nothing to do with it, there are plenty of massive clubs that have shit atmosphere. In fact, one of the downsides to becoming one of the truly big clubs in world football is that you invariably end up having a shit atmosphere because you've got a load of plastic glory-hunting fans and tourists. Probably the top 5 biggest clubs in Europe are (in no particular order) Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve, Man U and none of them have a great atmosphere at home games. I've been to see all of them except Real but from what I gather their fans are the worst of the lot.

If City and/or Chelsea continue to win the major trophies and spread their brand across the world like they currently are, they'll definitely surpass Man Utd at one stage or another. Chelsea have only been competitive for 10 years and already you can see Chelsea shirts all over the place in the USA, Africa, Asia etc. The only reason Utd are so big is because they were the dominant force in English football right when all the money came into the game so were able to capitalize. If they win fuck all for 20 years meanwhile City are cleaning up, you really think Man Utd will still be ahead of them? I don't think so.
 
Lilbaz

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'O Zio said:
Not sure how you can say that to be honest. Once upon a time Man Utd were a nothing club just like everyone else, then they won a shit load of trophies, established themselves as a massive global brand etc. and now they're one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only a matter of time before Chelsea and City are at that level. Chelsea have already won multiple league titles and the CL, City are well on the way to doing the same within the near future. Atmosphere has nothing to do with it, there are plenty of massive clubs that have shit atmosphere. In fact, one of the downsides to becoming one of the truly big clubs in world football is that you invariably end up having a shit atmosphere because you've got a load of plastic glory-hunting fans and tourists. Probably the top 5 biggest clubs in Europe are (in no particular order) Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve, Man U and none of them have a great atmosphere at home games. I've been to see all of them except Real but from what I gather they're fans are the worst of the lot.

If City and/or Chelsea continue to win the major trophies and spread their brand across the world like they currently are, they'll definitely surpass Man Utd at one stage or another. The only reason Utd are so big is because they were the dominant force in English football right when all the money came into the game so were able to capitalize. If they win fuck all for 20 years meanwhile City are cleaning up, you really think Man Utd will still be ahead of them? I don't think so.
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Went to see us at madrid and the atmosphere was unbelievable (was in the madrid section) the noise was almost painful at times and couldn't hear our lot at all even though i know they were singing their hearts out.
 
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'O Zio said:
No arguments from me on that one. I just take objection to people coming out with statements like "Chelsea aren't even a big club, back in my day they barely got 5000 through the door" etc. Like I say, like it or not, in the "modern times" Chelsea are undeniably one of the biggest clubs in the world and what they did or didn't do in the 60s is neither here nor there. Their success was started by a massive injection of cash but nowadays I think they've built on top of that are are now just a big club in their own right. For me they'll always have an asterisk next to anything they achieve though, just like City and PSG
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Oh Come on. Seeing as they were founded in 1970, even before their arab takeover, they were pretty successful. They got more silverware than shitty and chelscum combined prior to their takeovers.
 
riggi

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sebo_sek said:
Because United had built up their spending power through their on pitch success not the other way round like City.
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50 years from now it won't make a difference. You won't get an arguament from me about the class of a club just the reality of their size in the present day.

I guess you could say if we become a big club then we are a mixture of both?
 
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riggi said:
50 years from now it won't make a difference. You won't get an arguament from me about the class of a club just the reality of their size in the present day.

I guess you could say if we become a big club then we are a mixture of both?
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How so? Where 's the free cash injection? Must have missed it.
 
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riggi said:
No sorry I diddnt write that properly. What I mean is that you could say it's through levys savviness that we could become a big club.
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No denying. But that is a very different pair of boots. It's taken THFC close to 15 years to get to where we are financially. Both CFC and MCFC "did" it in one summer.
 
Japhet

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'O Zio said:
Not sure how you can say that to be honest. Once upon a time Man Utd were a nothing club just like everyone else, then they won a shit load of trophies, established themselves as a massive global brand etc. and now they're one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only a matter of time before Chelsea and City are at that level. Chelsea have already won multiple league titles and the CL, City are well on the way to doing the same within the near future. Atmosphere has nothing to do with it, there are plenty of massive clubs that have shit atmosphere. In fact, one of the downsides to becoming one of the truly big clubs in world football is that you invariably end up having a shit atmosphere because you've got a load of plastic glory-hunting fans and tourists. Probably the top 5 biggest clubs in Europe are (in no particular order) Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve, Man U and none of them have a great atmosphere at home games. I've been to see all of them except Real but from what I gather their fans are the worst of the lot.

If City and/or Chelsea continue to win the major trophies and spread their brand across the world like they currently are, they'll definitely surpass Man Utd at one stage or another. Chelsea have only been competitive for 10 years and already you can see Chelsea shirts all over the place in the USA, Africa, Asia etc. The only reason Utd are so big is because they were the dominant force in English football right when all the money came into the game so were able to capitalize. If they win fuck all for 20 years meanwhile City are cleaning up, you really think Man Utd will still be ahead of them? I don't think so.
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Their rise came way before that. They had a potentially fantastic team wiped out in the Munich air crash and rebuilt remarkably soon after. George Best was the 60s heart throb and Bobby Charlton was one of the top English heroes. Dennis Law pulled in a lot of Scottish support too. They picked up a massive fanbase in that time which has stayed with them ever since, through thick and thin. Ferguson took them to the heights, but the groundwork was done by Matt Busby.
 
hellava_tough

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Let me get this right...

So after all is said and done, the public tantrums, the rumours, the money spent, etc, Chelsea have ended up with two crappy strikers until the end of the season?

:unsure:

:cautious:

:)

:D

:LOL:

:ROFLMAO:
 
Johnny J

Johnny J

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Conte: barely plays Batshuayi all season, even when Morata was injured; tells Batshuayi he's not in his plans; loans Batshuayi on deadline day; moans that his match preparations were ruined "because we prepared with Batshuayi".

Lol
 
Johnny J

Johnny J

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hellava_tough said:
Let me get this right...

So after all is said and done, the public tantrums, the rumours, the money spent, etc, Chelsea have ended up with two crappy strikers until the end of the season?

:unsure:

:cautious:

:)

:D

:LOL:

:ROFLMAO:
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Giroud isn't crap, he scored more than 1 in 3 for Arsenal.
 
Shadydan

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Giroud is a good striker, he's not top class but as a bench option he's very good and his record off the bench his superb.

We'd do well if we had a player like Giroud.
 
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