Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[Led's Zeppelin]

Cheating has become accepted on the pitch. Nobody bats an eyelid at the shit that goes on and in fact many applaud it. I don't see how you can apply double standards on and off the pitch. Teams cheat on the pitch to win stuff and owners cheat off the pitch to build those teams. The ends justify the means and supporters are as guilty as anybody for accepting it if it makes their team successful.

You’re right.

No one should apply double standards.

I detest cheating on the pitch. All cheating, in fact. I cannot understand how anyone can get any satisfaction from “winning” by cheating.

The whole point of sport is to obey the rules and win within them.

If you can’t, you’ve lost before you start.

But money rules, Sky et al big up the biggest cheats, and fuckwits around the world buy into it.

 

[14/04/91]

I think the reaction here is bit over the top. They bought smartly as most of there signings are future possible stars with decent money. They spent hugely on caicedo but that too due to rice transfer. What people are forgetting why they are buying so many players as they let go of more than 14 15 players and some more will go too till the end of the window. If we had sold our deadwood on time now we too will be signing some more players. Below are the signings in this transfer window.

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Below are the players already left:
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We needed similar clearout. If we can't sell some of them just release them. trim the squad and start building for the future. If we see incomings above apart from caicedo we could sign the others too.

The only thing baffled me if knew already Kane is gone why didn't we went for Jackson. He was attainable and he is quality young striker.

That's still a deficit of €145m, with more to come no doubt. In addition to their spending spree in the last 2 windows.
I appreciate it's not as simple as pure outgoings vs incomings but they are still seemingly 'mortgaging' their future and assuming CL qualification.
Sadly, as his been pointed out above, even if they breach FFP they'll simply be fined (how UEFA are so, so stupid that they think fining the rich is the answer) so maybe they're willing and arrogant enough to take that risk.

 

[Albertbarich]

People have been predicting their demise for over 20 years, forgive me if I don't believe it anymore.

We all thought when Abramovich that was it for them and here we are. They will be fine somehow.

 

[Coco-1101]

That's still a deficit of €145m, with more to come no doubt. In addition to their spending spree in the last 2 windows.
I appreciate it's not as simple as pure outgoings vs incomings but they are still seemingly 'mortgaging' their future and assuming CL qualification.
Sadly, as his been pointed out above, even if they breach FFP they'll simply be fined (how UEFA are so, so stupid that they think fining the rich is the answer) so maybe they're willing and arrogant enough to take that risk.

They are signing lots of young talent and sending them out on lone. Also their academy produce good players too. They can recover good money from their sales. They have good manager in poch who can improve these young players who can be part of team for long time or can recover good money by selling them. Unfortunately as always it will work for them this too.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

I've heard it. They are compliant now, but their investment is based upon growth, which may or may not happen.

The reality is that they have a wage bill of 160-200m. The fees paid, is going to be around 125-150m, based in 1bn spread over 8 years

That means 285m - 350m is tied up in transfers/wages before they've even begun.

Chelseas revenue is at £500m with champions league (based on 22/23)

Even with CL, they will have 60% of their revenue tied up. So little room to operate.

Can only imagine how much they're paying agents as well to get some of these deals through...

 

[chas vs dave]

Can only imagine how much they're paying agents as well to get some of these deals through...

People also assume that Aubameyang left for free. I guarantee he took a pay off.

 

[makeveli]

If they don’t finish top 4 soon all will be over very quickly ..

 

[spanishspur]

How are Chelsea fans handling this, are they Worried or Revelling in it, or just being Racist ?

Alas I have a number of work colleagues that are Chelsea fans.
They loved the Roman A era and saw nothing wrong with the money he put into the club. All they saw was the trophies that kept coming in.
Now under this new regime they still see nothing wrong and fully expect the trophies to come rolling in again.
some of them have been Chelsea fans for over 50 years
All sickening to me.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Alas I have a number of work colleagues that are Chelsea fans.
They loved the Roman A era and saw nothing wrong with the money he put into the club. All they saw was the trophies that kept coming in.
Now under this new regime they still see nothing wrong and fully expect the trophies to come rolling in again.
some of them have been Chelsea fans for over 50 years
All sickening to me.

But sadly, it appears there are many Spurs fans who would be the same:- don't give a toss about cheating and the far greater crimes that lay behind the filthy wealth that buys the trophies, cos trophies matter more than football, or anything else apparently.

I detest and despise Chelsea and all they stand for, including stolen trophies.

 

[newbie]

They are signing lots of young talent and sending them out on lone. Also their academy produce good players too. They can recover good money from their sales. They have good manager in poch who can improve these young players who can be part of team for long time or can recover good money by selling them. Unfortunately as always it will work for them this too.

Can’t they only loan 8 players? There will be a point where players loose value the question is how many will gain value

 

[Marty]

Can’t they only loan 8 players? There will be a point where players loose value the question is how many will gain value

You can only loan out 8 over-21s, but U21s is still unlimited.

 

[ItsBoris]

Who plays out of Enzo Fernandez, Caicedo, and Lavia? Aren't they all quite deep midfielders?

 

[Marty]

Who plays out of Enzo Fernandez, Caicedo, and Lavia? Aren't they all quite deep midfielders?

Most likely two play in a 3-4-3

 

[Mycroft Jones]

You can only loan out 8 over-21s, but U21s is still unlimited.

The limit is on international loans and it's 7 this season. The whole U21 thing is more complicated than that as well as we found out last season.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

A tough couple of minutes for Chelsea:

First Palace announcement that Olise is signing a new deal, then, a few moments later, James is rumored to have a fresh hamstring injury - scans set for later today.

 

[neogenisis]

 

[Marty]

A tough couple of minutes for Chelsea:

First Palace announcement that Olise is signing a new deal, then, a few moments later, James is rumored to have a fresh hamstring injury - scans set for later today.

James is such a good player but he's an absolute cream cracker. Can't rely on his fitness at all and bizarrely a position they don't have any proper backup in.

 

[Hitch]

James is such a good player but he's an absolute cream cracker. Can't rely on his fitness at all and bizarrely a position they don't have any proper backup in.

They have Gusto, who I think will be excellent for them.

 

[Timberwolf]

Who plays out of Enzo Fernandez, Caicedo, and Lavia? Aren't they all quite deep midfielders?

My guess is one would be benched (Lavia) against weaker teams and they'd play the 3 of them together with Enzo as more of a a 10 against big teams?

At this rate they're going to end up with a great first 11 (almost impossible not to if you spend 1 billion quid) but some serious talent is going to absolutely rot there. They're already 3 players deep in some positions (CB, RW) and they're almost all young, quite raw players that will need minutes to develop.

It's one of the big flaws of their current model - like 80% of their signings are kids and aren't experienced plug-and-play winners like the Chelsea of old. The likes of Mudryk, Madueke, Badiashille and Lavia (just to name a few) will end up with completely stunted development and never live up to their potential if they don't get a run of games, which also means they'll be less effective as sub/rotation options.

I think they would have better results if they did what they're currently doing at about half the speed tbh. Feels like too much too fast, as proved by their finish last season.

 

[HildoSpur]

My guess is one would be benched (Lavia) against weaker teams and they'd play the 3 of them together with Enzo as more of a a 10 against big teams?

At this rate they're going to end up with a great first 11 (almost impossible not to if you spend 1 billion quid) but some serious talent is going to absolutely rot there. They're already 3 players deep in some positions (CB, RW) and they're almost all young, quite raw players that will need minutes to develop.

It's one of the big flaws of their current model - like 80% of their signings are kids and aren't experienced plug-and-play winners like the Chelsea of old. The likes of Mudryk, Madueke, Badiashille and Lavia (just to name a few) will end up with completely stunted development and never live up to their potential if they don't get a run of games, which also means they'll be less effective as sub/rotation options.

I think they would have better results if they did what they're currently doing at about half the speed tbh. Feels like too much too fast, as proved by their finish last season.

I don't think they care much as they can just sell those younger players on in a year or two for huge sums anyway.