Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[Trix]

I don't get why you have to ask the question though like I have to justify my opinion to you?

I just think he has been their best player whenever I watch them and the question was who would you sign and he was my answer. He would offer a creative spark in the team off the bench that we sorely lack, whether it's in the 10 role or coming off RW, or even a central option.

You don't have to justify it, I'm just asking where you'd play him for us. I assume you have a reason for wanting him other than he is a good player.

We are trying to build a balanced squad and that means buying players for positions we actually need them first and foremost. Just stockpiling good players is the reason Chelsea are where they are, lots of quality individuals with very little squad balance.

He also doesn't help their cause by selling him cheap. He cost £40mil last Summer and they'd need to sell him for a lot more than that to ease their financial woes. We are in a good spot right now as far as being able to spend is concerned and I'd like that to continue.

 

[Dov67]

You don't have to justify it, I'm just asking where you'd play him for us. I assume you have a reason for wanting him other than he is a good player.

We are trying to build a balanced squad and that means buying players for positions we actually need them first and foremost. Just stockpiling good players is the reason Chelsea are where they are, lots of quality individuals with very little squad balance.

He also doesn't help their cause by selling him cheap. He cost £40mil last Summer and they'd need to sell him for a lot more than that to help their financial cause. We are in a good spot right now as far as being able to spend is concerned and I'd like that to continue.

What mad sorcery is this

 

[joey55]

The league won't be as weak at the bottom next season with Leicester and Leeds back up, anything can happen if their finances are in a worse state than Everton's and they actually get deducted 10-15 points.

It's a chance the whole league should be willing to take.

But it's not the whole league though is it? It's a small handful of clubs that have the ability to buy players for decent fees and we are one of those clubs. There will probably be less than 5 clubs that are in a position to spend £40+ million on one player. In fact it's probably City, Utd, Liverpool and us that are the only clubs that could A pay the money and B their decent players would be prepared to go to.

I'm not massively keen on any of the players touted, though I wouldn't be disappointed with them either. But if Ange, Lange and Paratici etc really believe that one of those players would really help us push on and we can force a good deal out of Chelsea, I really can't believe there is any chance we wouldn't do it because there is a tiny chance Chelsea could get relegated if we don't.

 

[Pochemon94]

I don't know why, but I feel like the Prem/English FA will let Chelsea off with a slap on the wrist/no real punishment because of the money they bring in globally with their brand.

I hope I am wrong and the precedent has been set with Everton but I just got that bad feeling in my stomach about it.

 

[Arden]

I don't know why, but I feel like the Prem/English FA will let Chelsea off with a slap on the wrist/no real punishment because of the money they bring in globally with their brand.

I hope I am wrong and the precedent has been set with Everton but I just got that bad feeling in my stomach about it.

Not a chance, the clubs voted for this and the rules and punishments are clear. If the independent commission doesn’t uphold those rules there would be legal battles galore.

But yeah fully expecting them to weasel out of it somehow

 

[aliyid]

I don't know why, but I feel like the Prem/English FA will let Chelsea off with a slap on the wrist/no real punishment because of the money they bring in globally with their brand.

I hope I am wrong and the precedent has been set with Everton but I just got that bad feeling in my stomach about it.

Big caveat with any of this is just how far Everton breached the PSR limit by. Shouldn't expect any team breaking the £105m threshold to be slapped with a 10pt punishment (now reduced to 6pts).

Limit for breech = £105m loss over three seasons
Everton loss over 3 seasons = £310m so they not only surpassed the limit they basically laughed and blew right past it

Now that the appeal has reduced it down to just 6 points they need to set transparent guidelines over what punishments are applicable at certain levels. i.e. 1pt deduction for every £10m over the limit.

 

[Arden]

Big caveat with any of this is just how far Everton breached the PSR limit by. Shouldn't expect any team breaking the £105m threshold to be slapped with a 10pt punishment (now reduced to 6pts).

Limit for breech = £105m loss over three seasons
Everton loss over 3 seasons = £310m so they not only surpassed the limit they basically laughed and blew right past it

Now that the appeal has reduced it down to just 6 points they need to set transparent guidelines over what punishments are applicable at certain levels. i.e. 1pt deduction for every £10m over the limit.

I think they were allowances for covid lost revenue in that figure

 

[Marty]

Big caveat with any of this is just how far Everton breached the PSR limit by. Shouldn't expect any team breaking the £105m threshold to be slapped with a 10pt punishment (now reduced to 6pts).

Limit for breech = £105m loss over three seasons
Everton loss over 3 seasons = £310m so they not only surpassed the limit they basically laughed and blew right past it

Now that the appeal has reduced it down to just 6 points they need to set transparent guidelines over what punishments are applicable at certain levels. i.e. 1pt deduction for every £10m over the limit.

There were various allowances for covid, women's team, stadium development money and more, the figure Everton were over was nowhere near £310m.

I heard an Athletic podcast on this today which was enlightening. When it came down to it one of the big reasons why the punishment was reduced was because it felt disproportionate to the offence and to the punishment for other offences. Take administration, that is an automatic nine point deduction and having to ask for administrators is a solution to pretty much the most severe case of mismanagement a football club can do to themselves. Everton being £20 million ish over the limit after all their allowed deductions surely shouldn't be punished harsher than a club put under administration.

So after that pod I have less hope that Chelsea will suffer a 10-15 points penalty, they'll have to mess up extraordinarily badly to be deducted more than 9. But they won't get away with it altogether if they're over, the precedent has now been set.

 

[Arden]

There were various allowances for covid, women's team, stadium development money and more, the figure Everton were over was nowhere near £310m.

I heard an Athletic podcast on this today which was enlightening. When it came down to it one of the big reasons why the punishment was reduced was because it felt disproportionate to the offence and to the punishment for other offences. Take administration, that is an automatic nine point deduction and having to ask for asministrators is a solution to pretty much the most severe case of mismanagement a football club can do to themselves. Everton being £20 million ish over the limit after all their allowed deductions surely shouldn't be punished harsher than a club put under administration.

So after that pod I have less hope that Chelsea will suffer a 10-15 points penalty, they'll have to mess up extraordinarily badly to be deducted more than 9. But they won't get away with it altogether if they're over, the precedent has now been set.

There was some talk about them getting further points for reckless spending i.e blatantly taking the piss but who knows

 

[Dillspur]

There were various allowances for covid, women's team, stadium development money and more, the figure Everton were over was nowhere near £310m.

I heard an Athletic podcast on this today which was enlightening. When it came down to it one of the big reasons why the punishment was reduced was because it felt disproportionate to the offence and to the punishment for other offences. Take administration, that is an automatic nine point deduction and having to ask for asministrators is a solution to pretty much the most severe case of mismanagement a football club can do to themselves. Everton being £20 million ish over the limit after all their allowed deductions surely shouldn't be punished harsher than a club put under administration.

So after that pod I have less hope that Chelsea will suffer a 10-15 points penalty, they'll have to mess up extraordinarily badly to be deducted more than 9. But they won't get away with it altogether if they're over, the precedent has now been set.

6 points for every 20mil over the limit seems reasonable.

 

[KirstyG]

I don't know why, but I feel like the Prem/English FA will let Chelsea off with a slap on the wrist/no real punishment because of the money they bring in globally with their brand.

I hope I am wrong and the precedent has been set with Everton but I just got that bad feeling in my stomach about it.

I think it’s a nailed on certainty.

 

[jimburns1973]

None of their players are worth buying to help them out. Better value elsewhere

But wouldn’t it be amusing if they sell them and they turn into world beaters overnight

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't know why, but I feel like the Prem/English FA will let Chelsea off with a slap on the wrist/no real punishment because of the money they bring in globally with their brand.

I hope I am wrong and the precedent has been set with Everton but I just got that bad feeling in my stomach about it.

I hear you, two bit outfit who have for the last twenty odd years always come up smelling of roses no matter what situation they’ve found themselves in, whether it be on or off the pitch.
I’m sure the SFA had the same thoughts though when they demoted Rangers, let’s just hope they’ve got big enough cahoonas to do the right thing when it comes because if they don’t they’ll face a massive backlash from the other clubs.
What would be interesting though would be if they got some forensic accountants in and checked over their books for the last three years.

 

[kmk]

 

[Oscar22]

I’m still fully expecting some Saudi mates of Ted to appear just before the deadline to offer ridiculous prices for players that aren’t worth anywhere near the value of the offer.

Players who you hear the offer and know from the outset that it’s clearly just being done to help out. There will be some benefit to the Saudi club down the line or something outside of football offered, but either way the way Chelsea have been run for a long time now I’m wholly expecting them to snake their way out of this.

 

[rossdapep]

I’m still fully expecting some Saudi mates of Ted to appear just before the deadline to offer ridiculous prices for players that aren’t worth anywhere near the value of the offer.

Players who you hear the offer and know from the outset that it’s clearly just being done to help out. There will be some benefit to the Saudi club down the line or something outside of football offered, but either way the way Chelsea have been run for a long time now I’m wholly expecting them to snake their way out of this.

The only one I can see that happening with is Lukaku.

If the Saudis come and slap a 150m fee down then it couldn't be anymore clearer whats going on

 

[cjbyid]

Lol

 

[spurs mental]

 

[tommo84]

Googles ‘Seinfeld That’s a shame gif’.

 

[rossdapep]

Lol

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