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Spurslove

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Yeah out of the possible candidates he’s the least likely to succeed.
You're probably right. There's a massive job to be done at OT it's just a question whether whoever comes in will get the time and the enormous finances to do it. Half of their team are not fit to wear the shirt.

Like I said, I'm loving the beautiful car crash in the full glare of the sports media. Makes a lovely change to see someone else in the spotlight with their fan-base going into absolute meltdown.
 

gibbospurs

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You're probably right. There's a massive job to be done at OT it's just a question whether whoever comes in will get the time and the enormous finances to do it. Half of their team are not fit to wear the shirt.

Like I said, I'm loving the beautiful car crash in the full glare of the sports media. Makes a lovely change to see someone else in the spotlight with their fan-base going into absolute meltdown.
I wouldn’t say half the team, 3 or 4 are not good enough. They have a fantastic squad.
 

ikky

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yankspurs

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I get the same vibe. Feels really disrespectful to say this with what he has won. But is he proven enough?

He has experience of managing massive egos and his first stint at Madrid was really successful but he is clearly a risk. When you consider Conte was available not so long ago and they chose not to go for someone with his record. ZZ is a massive gamble in comparison.
I think he would be good there simply because they have the egos & that is his thing. Managing a bunch of egotists & getting a tune out of them. I just dont think he wants to manage in England as it’s the toughest league & would be more likely to snuff him out. Staying out of it, the aura remains & has a better chance of doing so.
 

qqq1

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The reluctance they had to sack Ole and the stories about them apparently not even considering Conte were making me think they were going to give Ole the season then go in big for Poch in the summer. Now Ole has completely shat the bed it'll be interesting to see if they appoint someone to the end of the season and wait for Poch.
 

rossdapep

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Think he’s waiting for PSG or the French national team
yeah, it has been well known in French football circles he wants to wait for the national team job.

He's not the kind of guy to work on projects or take jobs with risk. He managed Madrid cause it's his team and he wants to manage his country.

If he takes the United job it'll be because they've made him an offer he can't refuse and it's a short term deal.
 

nferno

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Honestly United have played this so poorly. Everyone knew Ole wasn't up to it and it's been obvious for a long time. Now replacing him in the summer was idiotic but to not sack him and go for Conte before we did could come to haunt them for years.

Good. I would Kevin keegan love it if this was the universe’s way of repaying us for Fergie reneging on coming to us and then going to United a couple years after.

(Granted; history tells us that there will be a Conte meltdown at some point and we won’t get that dominating dynasty we crave, and the game is too commercial these days for the Man Utd brand to permanently fall into the depths of mediocrity - but it’s nice to dream. )
 

rossdapep

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Yeah, he's gone.

Honestly United have played this so poorly. Everyone knew Ole wasn't up to it and it's been obvious for a long time. Now replacing him in the summer was idiotic but to not sack him and go for Conte before we did could come to haunt them for years.

Who can they realistically appoint? I genuinely believe Poch or Ten Haag in the summer was their plan. That won't happen mid season IMO. So who do they go for?

Caretaker will be a no no for me after all that's how Ole got the job in the first place.

ZZ for his incredible record in the CL particularly. Comes with major question marks.

Rodgers is probably getable due to Leicester fans showing signs of dissatisfaction. The owners may be happy to get something for him.

But this is Man United. The biggest club in this country (as we are constantly told). Surely their plan is not to get an ex Liverpool manager going through a turbulent spell at Leicester.

I could be missing someone completely but I honestly think when Conte joined us they at that point had to keep Ole until the end of the season. They missed their chance to get a top manager in now and seem to have thrown their plan out the window.
I do think its quite amusing how they've essentially wasted the last three years.

Ole did actually sort the squad out initially but I think the last two windows have proven to be a mess.

Now they aren't a too dissimilar situation to when Jose was fired - except they didn't win anything under Ole.

They should have stuck with the original plan. Ole until summer 2019 and then go for an actual coach who was on the way up.

To then double down on that and baulk at Conte is just bizarre.

I do wonder if Fergie has a big say and has been in favour of Ole jus6 because he's one of his boys and Fergie himself had plenty of time to prove himself.

That's also what is holding them back. Nowadays you can't sit and hope a coach will turn it around at some point. There are too many good ones and it's far more complicated than it used to be. You can't just rely on man management and setting standards, you have to have a very good plan on the training pitch.
 

yankspurs

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Yeah, he's gone.

Honestly United have played this so poorly. Everyone knew Ole wasn't up to it and it's been obvious for a long time. Now replacing him in the summer was idiotic but to not sack him and go for Conte before we did could come to haunt them for years.

Who can they realistically appoint? I genuinely believe Poch or Ten Haag in the summer was their plan. That won't happen mid season IMO. So who do they go for?

Caretaker will be a no no for me after all that's how Ole got the job in the first place.

ZZ for his incredible record in the CL particularly. Comes with major question marks.

Rodgers is probably getable due to Leicester fans showing signs of dissatisfaction. The owners may be happy to get something for him.

But this is Man United. The biggest club in this country (as we are constantly told). Surely their plan is not to get an ex Liverpool manager going through a turbulent spell at Leicester.

I could be missing someone completely but I honestly think when Conte joined us they at that point had to keep Ole until the end of the season. They missed their chance to get a top manager in now and seem to have thrown their plan out the window.
United are probably the biggest club in the world let alone England. Just haven’t acted like it for a few years. They’ll get numerous other chances because of their stature, but if they keep letting the pitch go by, they’ll be in really bad shape soon enough.

The best thing they can do right now is something they will never, ever do because the board is so stuck in their ways. They dont just need a coach, they need to a complete revamp of their footballing structure. Their scouting is poor, a transfer strategy is almost non existent. It’s mostly all opportunity with their transfer windows. Rangnick, IMO, would be a very shrewd appointment for them. Gets a rebuild going, steadies the ship, & maybe win something. And best of all for them, that doesn’t preclude them from getting Ten Hag in the summer.
 

cwy21

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United are probably the biggest club in the world let alone England. Just haven’t acted like it for a few years.

I'd probably say their in the top tier with Barca and Real Madrid. Oddly enough, all three of those clubs are well off of their peak glory.
 

hellava_tough

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If they were sensible, they'd have already drawn up a shortlist for Ole's replacement weeks ago.

But they're not a well run club, so they probably haven't done this.

Don't know all that much about European football currently, but by looking at the top teams in Italy, Germany and Spain, I'd say the likes of Marco Rose and Lopetegui could be good for them. Throw in Ten Haag, ZZ, possibly Allegri (not sure what has gone on at Juventus this season), Gallardo (who would be a big risk) and there are a handful of options.

The best managers in Europe (on paper anyway) aren't really attainable; Pep, Klopp, Conte, Nagelsmann, Simeone, Tuchel.

One thing I would say though, is that any half-decent coach will get a tune from that incredibly talented Utd squad, so if Ole is sacked in the next few days and they bring in any experienced coach, they will continue to be a rival for 4th place.
 
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