Let's All Laugh At... Let's All Laugh At West Ham

[aliyid]

For the select few posters on here that repeatedly post players are only interested in whoever will give them the most money, please take note of this. West Ham are offering fortunes to players, far more than they are getting elsewhere and they are being point blank dismissed by the players. The vast majority of players want to win stuff abd play on the CL first and foremost

This argument would work if United and Chelsea hadn't made the biggest signings so far with no champions league (or in Chelsea's case any European football) on offer.

Yes I think pedigree has a lot to do with it but United have made some of their their biggest money signings when not in Champs lge (Di Maria, Falcao, Ibra, Mkhitaryan...) and if they tie up Pogba on a supposed £220k after tax (if press are to be believed lol) then it screams money over Champs lge

 

[hellava_tough]

This argument would work if United and Chelsea hadn't made the biggest signings so far with no champions league (or in Chelsea's case any European football) on offer.

Yes I think pedigree has a lot to do with it but United have made some of their their biggest money signings when not in Champs lge (Di Maria, Falcao, Ibra, Mkhitaryan...) and if they tie up Pogba on a supposed £220k after tax (if press are to be believed lol) then it screams money over Champs lge

I pretty much agree with that, although as with everything there are exceptions to the rule

But as further evidence, it was reported in the Metro (or Standard) recently that Bacca, the WH target, had been offered £70k a week. This is hardly 'mega-bucks' in comparision to what many others are getting paid. In fact I'd say £60k or £70k p/w is the average wage now in the PL for a good player, not a superstar.

That particular report actually surprised me a bit, because I'd previously assumed that WH were going to pay Bacca £100k to £110k a week.

Perhaps they don't have quite as much cash as they need!

 

[Trix]

The thing is, when the owners sell up in the next couple of years it will have all of been worth it to them. Trouble is for their fans the football club will be utterly fucked. Their fans have all been duped as well which is pretty hilarious.

Why are the owners going to sell up? It's incredibly cynical to think everyone in football is now only in it for the money. They might be a pair of toss pots but they are also life long fans with a large personnel wealth.

 

[spursfan77]

Why are the owners going to sell up? It's incredibly cynical to think everyone in football is now only in it for the money. They might be a pair of toss pots but they are also life long fans with a large personnel wealth.

Well, you'd have to ask them wouldn't you. It's been mooted for ages that it's been their intention. I'm sure you've been following this long enough to see the evidence for yourself.

 

[Trix]

This argument would work if United and Chelsea hadn't made the biggest signings so far with no champions league (or in Chelsea's case any European football) on offer.

Yes I think pedigree has a lot to do with it but United have made some of their their biggest money signings when not in Champs lge (Di Maria, Falcao, Ibra, Mkhitaryan...) and if they tie up Pogba on a supposed £220k after tax (if press are to be believed lol) then it screams money over Champs lge

Regardless of the money the payers going there are doing so because they believe they will win trophies. I guarantee that. Yes they will get paid very well for doing so, but when Spam are chucking around offers in excess of 150k a week and players are point blank refusing and would rather stay on far less wages, I think that speaks for itself.

 

[Trix]

Well, you'd have to ask them wouldn't you. It's been mooted for ages that it's been their intention. I'm sure you've been following this long enough to see the evidence for yourself.

I have seen no evidence. None whatsoever other than IMO very cynical rumours floated around the tabloids and social media. Been seeing the very same thing for years regarding Joe Lewis and Levy(even though I have all along been told the opposite), and yet here we are. It's always been "after we do this or that he will sell" blah blah blah. Thing is now even the most cynical of fans must see there is more to be made by being part of the EPL than there is by selling up.

 

[Gb160]

Regardless of the money the payers going there are doing so because they believe they will win trophies. I guarantee that. Yes they will get paid very well for doing so, but when Spam are chucking around offers in excess of 150k a week and players are point blank refusing to stay on far less wages, I think that speaks for itself.

Exactly...the only ones who care only about money are the ones moving to China.

 

[spursfan77]

I have seen no evidence. None whatsoever other than IMO very cynical rumours floated around the tabloids and social media. Been seeing the very same thing for years regarding Joe Lewis and Levy(even though I have all along been told the opposite), and yet here we are. It's always been "after we do this or that he will sell" blah blah blah. Thing is now even the most cynical of fans must see there is more to be made by being part of the EPL than there is by selling up.

There's no way on earth you can compare ENIC's situation with the West Ham owners. It's completely different. Trust me on that, you don't know everything.

 

[Metalhead]

This argument would work if United and Chelsea hadn't made the biggest signings so far with no champions league (or in Chelsea's case any European football) on offer.

Yes I think pedigree has a lot to do with it but United have made some of their their biggest money signings when not in Champs lge (Di Maria, Falcao, Ibra, Mkhitaryan...) and if they tie up Pogba on a supposed £220k after tax (if press are to be believed lol) then it screams money over Champs lge

In the case of Chelsea and United, I would say that players are signing in the belief that the respective clubs are proven winners and they will likely be back in the top 4 by the end of the season; West Ham not so much.

 

[Shadydan]

West Ham' s owner's aren't going to sale now if they have any sense or for the immediate future, they have far too much money to make from the stadium and the renovation of the Boleyn ground as they need to sell off the land to turn it into flats. It doesn't make any business sense for them to sell up now when they've spent years planning and setting up the move to the OS.

 

[Trix]

There's no way on earth you can compare ENIC's situation with the West Ham owners. It's completely different. Trust me on that, you don't know everything.[/QUOTE]

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Steady on, I'm not saying I do. Am I not entitled to my opinion though!

Clearly you know something more than the gossip doing the rounds then, so how is the situation different?

Speaking of rumours.... Another rumour that was doing the rounds is that a certain owner form another club not a million miles away from ourselves or West Ham, put the idea into the tabloid press that the razzle twins only wanted the stadium for financial gain, for what can only be described as his own gain. But then it's only a rumour.

 

[VertongHen]

Cringy club, Cringy kit launch

 

[Ionman34]

This argument would work if United and Chelsea hadn't made the biggest signings so far with no champions league (or in Chelsea's case any European football) on offer.

Yes I think pedigree has a lot to do with it but United have made some of their their biggest money signings when not in Champs lge (Di Maria, Falcao, Ibra, Mkhitaryan...) and if they tie up Pogba on a supposed £220k after tax (if press are to be believed lol) then it screams money over Champs lge

Not really. Those clubs may not be in CL AT THIS MOMENT, but they are almost nailed on with the player roster and managers in charge, at least that will be the perception. They will know that they'll get a big pay packet at WH, but will also know that their chances of CL are slim indeed. WH can offer individuals a big payday, but not an entire team.

 

[Hoops]

This argument would work if United and Chelsea hadn't made the biggest signings so far with no champions league (or in Chelsea's case any European football) on offer.

Yes I think pedigree has a lot to do with it but United have made some of their their biggest money signings when not in Champs lge (Di Maria, Falcao, Ibra, Mkhitaryan...) and if they tie up Pogba on a supposed £220k after tax (if press are to be believed lol) then it screams money over Champs lge

Of course its money. What else could it be?

 

[Lilbaz]

I have seen no evidence. None whatsoever other than IMO very cynical rumours floated around the tabloids and social media. Been seeing the very same thing for years regarding Joe Lewis and Levy(even though I have all along been told the opposite), and yet here we are. It's always been "after we do this or that he will sell" blah blah blah. Thing is now even the most cynical of fans must see there is more to be made by being part of the EPL than there is by selling up.

Levy has always said that we are for sale for the right price. He did so in an interview with garth crooks.

 

[Trix]

Levy has always said that we are for sale for the right price. He did so in an interview with garth crooks.

How long ago was that? All I know is when the Cain Hoy stuff surfaced a while back, he said he had no intention whatsoever of selling.

 

[Metalhead]

Levy has always said that we are for sale for the right price. He did so in an interview with garth crooks.

I guess that as a commercial venture, they will always be prepared to sell if they receive a satisfactory offer but my guess is that it we are talking something that noone out there is willing to pay at the moment.

 

[dontcallme]

Regardless of the money the payers going there are doing so because they believe they will win trophies. I guarantee that. Yes they will get paid very well for doing so, but when Spam are chucking around offers in excess of 150k a week and players are point blank refusing and would rather stay on far less wages, I think that speaks for itself.

So why do black players sign for Russian clubs knowing they'll be racially abused?
Why are players going to China?

Do you really not think money is the driving factor?

 

[Trix]

So why do black players sign for Russian clubs knowing they'll be racially abused?
Why are players going to China?

Do you really not think money is the driving factor?

For some of them yes, same in any walk of life. The very best players though want to win stuff first and foremost. How many of these players going to Russia/China would actually be picked up and played by a team actually in contention for one of the top leagues/CL. They may well choose huge money over playing for a perennial mid table team. But if a club like Arsenal, (always in the CL) came in for them no way would they be off to China regardless of the money. If it were simply a case of money, ALL the top players would be trying to go there but they don't.

China is nothing new as regards huge money for players are concerned. Before them it was the UAE, and years ago both Japan and the US tried to do it. All they managed to attract were journey men and has beens. China without the CL and the prestigous European leagues will be no different.

 

[Metalhead]

So why do black players sign for Russian clubs knowing they'll be racially abused?
Why are players going to China?

Do you really not think money is the driving factor?

I think that that it comes down to the fact that you can't generalise. Some players are solely motivated by money; others by game time; some only want CL football; others aren't bothered and so on.