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aliyid

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Still love the fact we’ve played 5 games in CL (2x Madrid, 2x Dortmund & APOEL) and got more points than they have in 14 premier league games :LOL:
 

spursfan77

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Come on, we all know it was the hubris of Boris Johnson and Sebastian Coe that landed this mess on the taxpayers of the 3rd poorest borough in London. That's the story here - pointing the finger at Khan for 'political points' scoring is quite baffling considering the enormity, scandal, call it what you will, of this expensive farce.

Johnson and Coe (specifically) knew full well there was no need for a high capacity athletics stadium after the 2012 Olympics and 2017 World Championships, yet still they pushed ahead using their 'influence' to convince the weak minded that retaining the stadium for 'legacy', whatever the cost (£750m!), was a good solution.

Fair play to Khan for at least trying to get to bottom of this and, in the words of Donald J Trump, finding out what the hell is going on.

Well, that's not what the report says.

Ken Livingstone was also desperate to for it to go to West Ham. So it definitely wasn't just down to them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12424549

Ken Livingstone, Mr Johnson's rival in the 2012 mayoral election, said: "This is the right decision for Londoners, the right decision for sports fans and athletes and the right decision for those who are working to deliver a long-term Olympic legacy for the capital.

"Today's decision will ensure we fulfil promises that the capital will retain a world class athletics stadium at the Olympic Park which will inspire future generations."
 
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shelfboy68

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Come on, we all know it was the hubris of Boris Johnson and Sebastian Coe that landed this mess on the taxpayers of the 3rd poorest borough in London. That's the story here - pointing the finger at Khan for 'political points' scoring is quite baffling considering the enormity, scandal, call it what you will, of this expensive farce.

Johnson and Coe (specifically) knew full well there was no need for a high capacity athletics stadium after the 2012 Olympics and 2017 World Championships, yet still they pushed ahead using their 'influence' to convince the weak minded that retaining the stadium for 'legacy', whatever the cost (£750m!), was a good solution.

Fair play to Khan for at least trying to get to the bottom of this and, in the words of Donald J Trump, finding out what the hell is going on.

To find the answer you will need to back and speak to terrorist lover cuddly ken who set the wheels in motion for this.
 

sherbornespurs

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Dec 9, 2006
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Well, that's not what the report says.

I didn't read all 169 pages, just the conclusions which is really just a list of lessons learnt - I can't recall it 'fingering' anyone in particular.

I still remain baffled at why you seem quite happy to not only criticise Sadiq Khan but now Ken Livingstone - and no one else.

Livingstone's main involvement was as part of the original bid team in 2005, in fact his securing of the Russian vote was the one that clinched the deal for London 2012.

Livingstone was elected out of office on 1st May 2008 and Khan wasn't elected until May 2016. Livingstone's involvement in the legislative process and decision making regarding the future of the stadium post the 2012 games would therefore have been pretty minimal.

Ken Livingstone's favoured option, when in office, was to keep the stadium purely for athletics as originally intended, however it was Boris Johnson's decision that instead of the scaled-back 25,000 all-seater athletics facility that had been originally planned, the Olympic Stadium needed a football tenant to be financially viable. Livingstone may have agreed with him during the Mayoral electoral campaign, but his views were pretty immaterial because that's just what they were - views. He'd been out of office for 4yrs and therefore had no decision making powers whatsoever.

It was solely down to the decisions taken by Boris Johnson, as Mayor of London at the time, to convert the Olympic stadium for West Ham United’s use on the back of £300m of public money and to have saddled the stadium operator with annual losses of about £20m.

To ignore that and point the finger at Livingstone and Khan beggars belief.
 

nightgoat

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It was solely down to the decisions taken by Boris Johnson, as Mayor of London at the time, to convert the Olympic stadium for West Ham United’s use on the back of £300m of public money and to have saddled the stadium operator with annual losses of about £20m.

And no surprise that the then Tory mayor was so desperately keen for it to be handed on the cheap to a club co-run by the Tories' Business Ambassador.
 

Cornpattbuck

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Jul 23, 2013
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I didn't read all 169 pages, just the conclusions which is really just a list of lessons learnt - I can't recall it 'fingering' anyone in particular.

I still remain baffled at why you seem quite happy to not only criticise Sadiq Khan but now Ken Livingstone - and no one else.

Livingstone's main involvement was as part of the original bid team in 2005, in fact his securing of the Russian vote was the one that clinched the deal for London 2012.

Livingstone was elected out of office on 1st May 2008 and Khan wasn't elected until May 2016. Livingstone's involvement in the legislative process and decision making regarding the future of the stadium post the 2012 games would therefore have been pretty minimal.

Ken Livingstone's favoured option, when in office, was to keep the stadium purely for athletics as originally intended, however it was Boris Johnson's decision that instead of the scaled-back 25,000 all-seater athletics facility that had been originally planned, the Olympic Stadium needed a football tenant to be financially viable. Livingstone may have agreed with him during the Mayoral electoral campaign, but his views were pretty immaterial because that's just what they were - views. He'd been out of office for 4yrs and therefore had no decision making powers whatsoever.

It was solely down to the decisions taken by Boris Johnson, as Mayor of London at the time, to convert the Olympic stadium for West Ham United’s use on the back of £300m of public money and to have saddled the stadium operator with annual losses of about £20m.

To ignore that and point the finger at Livingstone and Khan beggars belief.

Surely it's all of their fault?! Anyway, can we get back to taking the piss out of West Ham please...
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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I didn't read all 169 pages, just the conclusions which is really just a list of lessons learnt - I can't recall it 'fingering' anyone in particular.

I still remain baffled at why you seem quite happy to not only criticise Sadiq Khan but now Ken Livingstone - and no one else.

Livingstone's main involvement was as part of the original bid team in 2005, in fact his securing of the Russian vote was the one that clinched the deal for London 2012.

Livingstone was elected out of office on 1st May 2008 and Khan wasn't elected until May 2016. Livingstone's involvement in the legislative process and decision making regarding the future of the stadium post the 2012 games would therefore have been pretty minimal.

Ken Livingstone's favoured option, when in office, was to keep the stadium purely for athletics as originally intended, however it was Boris Johnson's decision that instead of the scaled-back 25,000 all-seater athletics facility that had been originally planned, the Olympic Stadium needed a football tenant to be financially viable. Livingstone may have agreed with him during the Mayoral electoral campaign, but his views were pretty immaterial because that's just what they were - views. He'd been out of office for 4yrs and therefore had no decision making powers whatsoever.

It was solely down to the decisions taken by Boris Johnson, as Mayor of London at the time, to convert the Olympic stadium for West Ham United’s use on the back of £300m of public money and to have saddled the stadium operator with annual losses of about £20m.

To ignore that and point the finger at Livingstone and Khan beggars belief.

That's not true. Back in 2006 they were trying to get West Ham and us to go there and neither club was interested then.

If you think I'm not blaming Coe for this farce too your very much mistaken. I've condemned him numerous times and made posts about how his links with the company planning to redevelop the athletics stadium at Crystal Palace.

Johnson signed off on the West Ham negotiations but it wasn't him who conducted them. It was the LLDC and they are the ones to ultimately blame. He shouldn't have accepted their recommendations though but who's to say another mayor wouldn't have done the same. We don't know. I'm not a cheerleader for any of these self serving mayors anyway.

I'd rather Khan got behind our stadium development than spend time on this but I wouldn't be surprised if he does nothing on either in the end.
 

Dinghy

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rossdapep

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"Start splashing the cash, Dave Sullivan, you fucking tight ****!" :LOL:


If they are all so raging with the current situation and how the "West Ham" has been taken out of the club, then why are they all sat in their shirts with the rebranded club emblems showing? Not only that but hasn't that shirt got the GB flag on the sleeves.
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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If they are all so raging with the current situation and how the "West Ham" has been taken out of the club, then why are they all sat in their shirts with the rebranded club emblems showing? Not only that but hasn't that shirt got the GB flag on the sleeves.
Paid for it innit. :D
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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If they are all so raging with the current situation and how the "West Ham" has been taken out of the club, then why are they all sat in their shirts with the rebranded club emblems showing? Not only that but hasn't that shirt got the GB flag on the sleeves.
I'm amazed they haven't formed a fans' splinter club yet tbh.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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I'm amazed they haven't formed a fans' splinter club yet tbh.
Oh they've been discussing it quite seriously on Kumb, AFC West Ham.
They'd probably beat West Ham if they played each other.
 

Armstrong_11

Spurs makes me happy, you... not so much :)
Aug 3, 2011
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Think we can come up with better... Or atleast funnier names...

Nott East Ham

Or how about...

West Ham Wanderous

After all they have no home.
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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Those odds are ridiculous. I think the bookies have really messed up there as Moyes has been there long enough to get the defence organised now. I've got a full £2 on 8-0.

Think we can come up with better... Or atleast funnier names...

Nott East Ham

Or how about...

West Ham Wanderous

After all they have no home.

How about West 'Am New Club? WANC for short.
 
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