Levy: Does he have an influence on transfers?

[thetallaghttiger]

put simply, of course he does!

We're a well run football club, we don't spend ridiculous amounts of money that we can't afford! We have a budget and our spending can't exceed that, Levy has to have an input now and again!

 

[SpurSince57]

What it tends to boil down to is:

Players fans (some fans, anyway) don't like=Levy/Comolli signings

Players fans do like=managers' signings

 

[Knarf44]

Let's not forget that Ian Broomfield was recently appointed Chief Scout who previously worked for Harry at Pompey. I expect he personally spent some time watching the two Kyles and Delph last season or would have had other scouts watching them and reporting back. It doesn't take a genius to work out that Harry obviously rates Broomfield's ability and opinion to recommend young players that should be signed. Sure Levy signs the cheques but is he really going to overrule the opinions of two people he signed for their experience and judgement? If so, why doesn't Levy simply take control of the playing side of the club too?

 

[Tottenham woody]

So you'd also be very surprised that Moyes wanted Kyle N? :roll:

What's that got to do with anything?

No way in a million years would harry be the one to push for the signings of TWO unproven right backs.

It's Levy seeing a quick profit to be made, that's all well and good but not at the expense of the first XI.

 

[spurs mental]

The we hate Levy brigade are starting to piss me off.

Of course he has to have some say in transfers, the price we pay for a player is the obvious one, he's not going to fork out vast amounts of money just because Harry wants him. Harry might not like it, but that's the way it will go sometimes. Deal with it. He has the club at heart, he knows where we sit financially. None of us do.

This quick profit nonsense is a load of bullshit as well. Was he trying to make a quick profit on Berbatov when he spent 12 million on him?

 

[Matt C]

My gripe with Levy is 100% about wages

There are some things he does well but our wage policy is holding us back big time and costing us the players we need to progress to the next level

But until we revise our wages policy it will be 1 step forward 2 steps back

 

[riversmonkey]

You could say until we start to win things and consistently finish top six, there is no need for us to increase the wages.

 

[cabinfever]

My gripe with Levy is 100% about wages

There are some things he does well but our wage policy is holding us back big time and costing us the players we need to progress to the next level

But until we revise our wages policy it will be 1 step forward 2 steps back

Please explain our wages policy.

 

[SpurSince57]

What's that got to do with anything?

No way in a million years would harry be the one to push for the signings of TWO unproven right backs.

It's Levy seeing a quick profit to be made, that's all well and good but not at the expense of the first XI.

More of your 'facts'?

 

[robofan]

as i said it was in his original contract and i dont recall him being dropped
only being injured
why would my friend lie anyway , his dad was at spurs for 30 years as a player and assistant plus neither he or his father rated jenas
hope we replace him with someone solid so palacios does not have to do the work of 2 men and can focus on his own game

show me your copy of the contract that says it and i will show you segments of one that says it dont.

hidden agenda, having a sulk because he didnt make the grade

What's that got to do with anything?

No way in a million years would harry be the one to push for the signings of TWO unproven right backs.

It's Levy seeing a quick profit to be made, that's all well and good but not at the expense of the first XI.

wrong

The we hate Levy brigade are starting to piss me off.

Of course he has to have some say in transfers, the price we pay for a player is the obvious one, he's not going to fork out vast amounts of money just because Harry wants him. Harry might not like it, but that's the way it will go sometimes. Deal with it. He has the club at heart, he knows where we sit financially. None of us do.

This quick profit nonsense is a load of bullshit as well. Was he trying to make a quick profit on Berbatov when he spent 12 million on him?

dont let them piss you off mate, have a good laugh the same as he does :grin:

My gripe with Levy is 100% about wages

There are some things he does well but our wage policy is holding us back big time and costing us the players we need to progress to the next level

But until we revise our wages policy it will be 1 step forward 2 steps back

again, please post a copy of the clubs (alledged)wage policy

 

[Tottenham woody]

More of your 'facts'?

More of your unhelpful sarcasm laden comments?

 

[chavkev]

as i said it was in his original contract and i dont recall him being dropped
only being injured
why would my friend lie anyway , his dad was at spurs for 30 years as a player and assistant plus neither he or his father rated jenas
hope we replace him with someone solid so palacios does not have to do the work of 2 men and can focus on his own game

Am I correct in guessing that your source is Chris Hughton? Only person I can think of who that describes. Could still be bitter about being forced out as well.

 

[Legend10]

Does anybody seriously believe that JJ would have that clause in his contract?

He has been left out during his time at the club and this through a period where the only superior central midfield player has been Carrick. It could be argued Davids also but he was right at the tail end of his career whilst at the club.

Why wouldn't Harry be interested in young Naughton? As has already been said Moyes most certainly is and quite possibly O'Neill as well. It might also suit us as part of the deal to include Walker and see how the kid develops. If he progresses as some people suspect we will have landed a bargain, if he doesn't then the risk money is minimal and one that we could probably recoup in full, what is wrong with this?

As for the wage structure discussions, the truth is that nobody on here knows what our wage structure is. We certainly have a lot of quality players if we are poor payers, makes you wonder how?

 

[RichieS]

as i said it was in his original contract and i dont recall him being dropped
only being injured
why would my friend lie anyway , his dad was at spurs for 30 years as a player and assistant plus neither he or his father rated jenas
hope we replace him with someone solid so palacios does not have to do the work of 2 men and can focus on his own game

Are you seriously implying that Wilson has to make up for JJ's lack of work? If there's one thing you can't slate Jenas for it's the amount of ground he covers!

 

[SpurSince57]

More of your unhelpful sarcasm laden comments?

No, just the one.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

i believe you mate , as i have said before jenas has a clause in his original contract stating he has to start when he is fit .... this is probably why jol never wanted him
which makes sense now you have said it, my source was our assistant managers son
, cant really get much closer to the club at the time than that without hearing it from the managers mouth.
probably why harrys been trying to off load him all summer and also why he constantly get picked regardless of how he has played /form which is usually shite

lets hope viera or someone half decent comes in so we can ship him out

When it comes to JJ your a right knob jockey

 

[sloth]

I hope Levy does have a say in our signings and I'm sure he does just not in the juvenile way the thread author imagines he does, lol

 

[Tottenham woody]

I hope Levy does have a say in our signings and I'm sure he does just not in the juvenile way the thread author imagines he does, lol

You accuse me of being juvenile and then end your post with lol........:stupid:

Do you ever wonder why Levy won't pay out for players over the age of 28 no matter if they are better than our current squad or not?

Yet he's willing to pay big prices for young players like Mod, Bale etc?

Because it's all about profit, it's all about making more money for Enic and ensuring they can get a good price when they deicide to sell up.

 

[rez9000]

I'm sorry, TW, but your argument is based on very thin and tenuous points.

You claim that Levy is keen on youth in order to bring in players who have potential resale value. You mention Bale, Modric, and the two Kyles from Sheffield United. Let's have a look at those players. Modric has been one of the highlights of our season. In only his first season, he's been integral to our rise up the table after the Ramos debacle. And his star was already in the ascendency when we signed him. Arsenal wanted him and Wenger demonstrated a major case of sour grapes after we landed him by saying he didn't have the physicality to make it in the Prem. He's since been proven wrong.

Bale was hot property too before we purchased him. Man Utd were sniffing round and we jumped in and got him. OK, his stint at Spurs hasn't been the best, but if Ferguson is interested, then you know there's something there.

You say it makes no difference if Moyes is interested in Kyle Naughton. That's patently false. If the manager of the year, a manager who's club has had more league success than us in the last two or three seasons wants to bring a player to Goodison Park, and was willing to offer him first-team football, then it can be quite cogently argued that that player would be a decent signing.

Now, let's look at a few of your other points. You claim that Jenas was signed against Jol's approval, and you believe your one quote backs this up. I'm sorry to have to say this, but that's total shash. The quote in no way proves that Levy has the influence over signings that you ascribe to him. That quote suggests to me that there were a number of central midfielders that Spurs were looking at, and Levy wanted the big signing.

As to the policy of buy young, sell later, who have we sold? Who from this army of youngsters have we sold? Our biggest transfers out of the past few seasons have been:

Berbascum - Agitated for a move, virtually from the moment he arrived
Keane - purchased by Hoddle, long before the alleged 'buy 'em young' policy of the Comolli era. Bought before Arnesen in fact.
Carrick - Again, put in a transfer request. There was no motivation for us to sell.
Defoe - Wanted first-team football and we acquiesced.

I developed a deep mistrust of Daniel Levy after the mishandling of Jol's departure and the way in which Ramos arrived and left the club. His stock has risen in my eyes since, but I still don't completely trust him. However, one thing I'm certain of is that no matter what Levy's position is, Redknapp is not going to put up with having transfer policy dictated to him. Both he and Levy said as much when Redknapp joined. Transfers were going to be under the sole aegis of the manager. And that's Harry Redknapp's job title - manager. Not head coach. Manager. He is charge of transfers and no-one else.

Your argument is tenuous and unsubstantiated and is based on assumptions and opinion rather than real evidence.

 

[spurslenny]

My gripe with Levy is 100% about wages

There are some things he does well but our wage policy is holding us back big time and costing us the players we need to progress to the next level

But until we revise our wages policy it will be 1 step forward 2 steps back

so i'm guessing you'd like it if we took the 'Leeds' approach and paid higher wages on the off chance that we would make the Champions league?