Lionel Messi- The Record Breaker

[yankspurs]

Today's the day, folks. Today's the day he absolutely embarrasses the US and scores 6 goals. Im scared

 

[mattie g]

Today's the day, folks. Today's the day he absolutely embarrasses the US and scores 6 goals. Im scared

Bring back Jonathan Bornstein!

 

[ohtottenham!]

Well, we're even on being called out now, re bowelhurt and I prob deserve it for going a bit forum-y.

One thing I find incredible is all the casual keep ups and tricks with tiny/huge objects you see Maradona doing. It reminds me of Bradman practicing with a stump and golf ball, for any cricket fans.

No worries. It’s just a football discussion on a forum. Still an interesting and engaging discussion, and it’s good to have views challenged on all sides. You’re right regarding the huge number of variables in dealing with the hypotheticals.

The game is far faster these days, less time and space, players are quicker, more athletic and more technical in tight spaces. Have better coaching, nutrition etc.,

If the great players from the past were born into the generation of modern players, they would be stronger, quicker, more athletic, and would have adapted their games and skill sets to suit the challenges of today’s game. In Maradona’s case, that would be a scary prospect! A faster, more athletic version with even better technical skills, particularly at close quarters, and with added protection from refs.

It would be a treat to line up that modern Maradona against Messi in teams that were otherwise evenly matched. A bit of fun, and hypothetical of course, but who do you put your money on? You obviously know which team I’d back.

 

[tiger666]

Talking of Maradona, 10.15 tonight, ITV4.

 

[goughie1966]

Messi breaks Argentina goal scoring record in style:



and from behind the goal

 

[RichieS]

Messi breaks Argentina goal scoring record in style:



and from behind the goal

That is sensational.

 

[nailsy]

Messi breaks Argentina goal scoring record in style:



and from behind the goal

That must drive Ronaldo nuts.

 

[johnbowel]

No worries. It’s just a football discussion on a forum. Still an interesting and engaging discussion, and it’s good to have views challenged on all sides. You’re right regarding the huge number of variables in dealing with the hypotheticals.

The game is far faster these days, less time and space, players are quicker, more athletic and more technical in tight spaces. Have better coaching, nutrition etc.,

If the great players from the past were born into the generation of modern players, they would be stronger, quicker, more athletic, and would have adapted their games and skill sets to suit the challenges of today’s game. In Maradona’s case, that would be a scary prospect! A faster, more athletic version with even better technical skills, particularly at close quarters, and with added protection from refs.

It would be a treat to line up that modern Maradona against Messi in teams that were otherwise evenly matched. A bit of fun, and hypothetical of course, but who do you put your money on? You obviously know which team I’d back.

I'm not sure either way but I think Maradona's main attribute, over Messi, is a personality thing, more daring and flamboyant and determined. You can see it in the way he runs, a bit like Gascoigne, his chest is puffed out and they both look almost comically like the top halves of their body are trying to keep pace with their legs - aside from skill and technique neither of them would give up on the ball, they push themselves absolutely to make it, to get a nick and swerve past a defender who looks favourite for it (Gazza often scything them down... ending up breaking his leg or getting booked in big england games ). It's almost like watching someone runnig down a mountain side, careering almost out of control and each time you think they're going to catch on something managing to avoid it through complete commitment. I don't think Messi has that exuberant almost possessed type of character. Of course, it didn't exactly work out well in those two players personal lives.

The part I think Messi does better than anyone I've seen play is making acute zig zagging runs in ridiculously tight spaces, darting about like a flea as pep called him. There are those crazy runs in and around the box he used to go on beating 5 or 6 players like a playstation footballer, as someone else called him.

 

[Syn_13]

Retired from International football. Only 29, seems too young. He could at least have stuck around for the next World Cup as his last shot for a major International trophy.

 

[nailsy]

Retired from International football. Only 29, seems too young. He could at least have stuck around for the next World Cup as his last shot for a major International trophy.

It seems quite reactive after missing the penalty and losing the final. Hopefully he'll reconsider.

 

[amathews3416]

I don't believe he is retired for one minute. Emotional after the penalty miss and another loss.

 

[Marty]

Yeah, I can't see him bowing out until after the World Cup, unless he's doing it as a protest against Russia hosting, which he almost certainly isn't.

 

[cookiemonster]

Overated flat track bully

Scores tons against the likes of USA Panama Getafe Betis Bate Borisov and other assorted shit

Not a patch on Maradona

Now wants to pick up the the ball and go home

Good riddance

 

[thecook]

But not before he's received the adulation for breaking his national scoring record. Seems more like something Ronaldo would do really

 

[cookiemonster]

Don't even have the bollocks to leave his Barcelona comfort zone to come and us to multiple championships & champions league

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Definitely an "in the moment" decision to retire, and I think he'll turn around on it.
The only possibility, discussed at work this morning, is that he's also done to make it slightly more favourable to get a transfer to the PL. If he doesn't have to disappear off to a compete in these kind of competitions midweek, it makes him available to play in the Capital One cup away at Chesterfield etc.

Mascherano and Aguero have announced their retirements as well.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Let's be honest. If this was Ronaldo hissy fitting like this we'd rip into him. Messi isn't the saint we all try to paint him as.

 

[tiger666]

Let's be honest. If this was Ronaldo hissy fitting like this we'd rip into him. Messi isn't the saint we all try to paint him as.

Not sure he's hissy fitting. Did he refuse to shake hands with Chile or slag them off to the press afterwards like the **** that Ronaldo is?

 

[Syn_13]

Definitely an "in the moment" decision to retire, and I think he'll turn around on it.
The only possibility, discussed at work this morning, is that he's also done to make it slightly more favourable to get a transfer to the PL. If he doesn't have to disappear off to a compete in these kind of competitions midweek, it makes him available to play in the Capital One cup away at Chesterfield etc.

Mascherano and Aguero have announced their retirements as well.

Aguero's retired? I get Mascherano but isn't Aguero 28 or something? Way too early.

 

[Ribble]

Definitely an "in the moment" decision to retire, and I think he'll turn around on it.
The only possibility, discussed at work this morning, is that he's also done to make it slightly more favourable to get a transfer to the PL. If he doesn't have to disappear off to a compete in these kind of competitions midweek, it makes him available to play in the Capital One cup away at Chesterfield etc.

Mascherano and Aguero have announced their retirements as well.

I agree, he'll be back before the next WC after he's got over the pain

Let's be honest. If this was Ronaldo hissy fitting like this we'd rip into him. Messi isn't the saint we all try to paint him as.

It's not really a hissy fit, more like a depressed cry in the corner.