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Am Yisrael Chai
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It's from the website
Lose Five
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eddiebailey
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Fair enough, I am not sure that is necessarily how Poch sees it, but it is a good enough start for discussion purposes.
SpainSpur85
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We can't get away with only regestering Brad for the cup games right? We need 3 keepers for the PL squad? So he's in. Rose can go, I'm not sure the positives outweigh the negatives.
Benoit, I like him, there's still a pretty good player in there, but he'd raise a few quid and not really be missed.
Dembele, we're after another mid, he'd probably bring a hefty sum in and would he play much?
Lennon, we're looking at 8/10 million ish and we have a few players who can play there, you'd think Lamela starts.
Sandro, is he really over his injury? Could we not loan him to Southampton to make it easier for them to replace MS who can come in and take Sandro's spot in the squad?
Dawson/Naughton could go, if we bring an English 21+ plus defender in and they can cover RB and CB. I've been thinking, we could do with a Gallas/"Shimbombar" kind of player, someone who can play retty much anywhere across the back line and do a pretty good job, God only knows who though.
It's easier to trim a squad if you know exactly who is coming in, I hope we don't leave the deals until the very last minute, as it is, we have to get creative with the squad, let's make the job a bit easier.
Benoit, I like him, there's still a pretty good player in there, but he'd raise a few quid and not really be missed.
Dembele, we're after another mid, he'd probably bring a hefty sum in and would he play much?
Lennon, we're looking at 8/10 million ish and we have a few players who can play there, you'd think Lamela starts.
Sandro, is he really over his injury? Could we not loan him to Southampton to make it easier for them to replace MS who can come in and take Sandro's spot in the squad?
Dawson/Naughton could go, if we bring an English 21+ plus defender in and they can cover RB and CB. I've been thinking, we could do with a Gallas/"Shimbombar" kind of player, someone who can play retty much anywhere across the back line and do a pretty good job, God only knows who though.
It's easier to trim a squad if you know exactly who is coming in, I hope we don't leave the deals until the very last minute, as it is, we have to get creative with the squad, let's make the job a bit easier.
Larryjanta
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Disagree a little, with a few going out on loan, we have space if we only trim a few. That we have space isn't necessarily what we want as we'll have some unhappy players if we have 25 players who would expect to play. For me, the perfect situation is 22 players and 3 youngsters in the 25 man squad. The 22 will all get 20+ games and the 3 youngster 5-10.
THFCSPURS19
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Fryers, Dawson, Sandro, Carroll, Assou-Ekotto and maybe Mason.
For new signings (I don't know if Poch is taking that into account when he mentioned losing 5 players): Dembele, Chiriches.
For new signings (I don't know if Poch is taking that into account when he mentioned losing 5 players): Dembele, Chiriches.
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alpha
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Very surprised to see no one dropping Ryan Mason. Already 23 he can hardly be considered a youth player and can't really see him making much of an impact at Spurs this season.
5 to drop
Ryan Mason
Dawson
Naughton
BAE
Tom Carroll
EDIT> THFCSPURS19 above is considering dropping Mason, but can't think why you'd rather keep him than Sandro.
5 to drop
Ryan Mason
Dawson
Naughton
BAE
Tom Carroll
EDIT> THFCSPURS19 above is considering dropping Mason, but can't think why you'd rather keep him than Sandro.
fatpiranha
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Only 5? 
I'll start with Paulinho not just because I think he's an awful footballer but because we can actually get some decent money for him now which we won't if he continues his recent form for another season.
Then i'll go with Carroll because I don't think he'll get enough football with us to make the grade and I don't like to see young players waste their career opportunities.
The same applies to Fryers. Nothing i've seen so far suggests he's a player we need or is going to be good enough.
That's 2 homegrown players gone so which isn't helping that much so the next to move on would be BAE which is a shame as I really like the bloke but we have cover at LB now and he isn't getting any younger.
Dawson and Kaboul don't want to go and I still hold out hope for Kaboul if he can avoid injury. Dawson is probably worth his place in the dressing room if not on the pitch. I don't particularly rate Chadli but we are a bit light on the wing and at a push he could also fill in as a striker. I think we can afford to lose another CM and for me it would be a choice between Sandro and Holtby with sadly Sandro winning because we'd get more money for him.
That said for decent dosh which we could put towards a replacement i'd quite happily sell anyone except Lloris, Eriksen, Walker, Capoue and Mason.
I'll start with Paulinho not just because I think he's an awful footballer but because we can actually get some decent money for him now which we won't if he continues his recent form for another season.
Then i'll go with Carroll because I don't think he'll get enough football with us to make the grade and I don't like to see young players waste their career opportunities.
The same applies to Fryers. Nothing i've seen so far suggests he's a player we need or is going to be good enough.
That's 2 homegrown players gone so which isn't helping that much so the next to move on would be BAE which is a shame as I really like the bloke but we have cover at LB now and he isn't getting any younger.
Dawson and Kaboul don't want to go and I still hold out hope for Kaboul if he can avoid injury. Dawson is probably worth his place in the dressing room if not on the pitch. I don't particularly rate Chadli but we are a bit light on the wing and at a push he could also fill in as a striker. I think we can afford to lose another CM and for me it would be a choice between Sandro and Holtby with sadly Sandro winning because we'd get more money for him.
That said for decent dosh which we could put towards a replacement i'd quite happily sell anyone except Lloris, Eriksen, Walker, Capoue and Mason.
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THFCSPURS19
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You'd rather sell Vertonghen than Ryan Mason. Blimey.Only 5?
I'll start with Paulinho not just because I think he's an awful footballer but because we can actually get some decent money for him now which we won't if he continues his recent form for another season.
Then i'll go with Carroll because I don't think he'll get enough football with us to make the grade and I don't like to see young players waste their career opportunities.
The same applies to Fryers. Nothing i've seen so far suggests he's a player we need or is going to be good enough.
That's 2 homegrown players gone so which isn't helping that much so the next to move on would be BAE which is a shame as I really like the bloke but we have cover at LB now and he isn't getting any younger.
Dawson and Kaboul don't want to go and I still hold out hope for Kaboul if he can avoid injury. Dawson is probably worth his place in the dressing room if not on the pitch. I don't particularly rate Chadli but we are a bit light on the wing and at a push he could also fill in as a striker. I think we can afford to lose another CM and for me it would be a choice between Sandro and Holtby with sadly Sandro winning because we'd get more money for him.
That said for decent dosh which we could put towards a replacement i'd quite happily sell anyone except Lloris, Eriksen, Walker, Capoue and Mason.
spursfan77
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Rose
Dawson
Naughton
Dembele
Paulinho
We'd then have cash to buy schneiderlin and also a lwf
Dawson
Naughton
Dembele
Paulinho
We'd then have cash to buy schneiderlin and also a lwf
Indacupfortottenham
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BAE
Dawson
Fryers
Mason loan
Carroll loan
Dawson
Fryers
Mason loan
Carroll loan
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"sir"billynic
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Tough choice's (well some more so than others) and subject to written guarantee of suitable replacements from DL, but here we go,
BAE- in the wilderness, time to leave
Dawson- love the guy, but doesn't have the pace to play in a high line
Carrol- Not sure if he will ever develop to become a regular first team player
Chadli- Sorry ladies
Kane- See Carrol
BAE- in the wilderness, time to leave
Dawson- love the guy, but doesn't have the pace to play in a high line
Carrol- Not sure if he will ever develop to become a regular first team player
Chadli- Sorry ladies
Kane- See Carrol
eddiebailey
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We could wring about £25 million out of Barcelona for Verts, which unless he bucks his ideas up after last term is a lot more than he is likely to be worth at the end of the season; at the moment you would be lucky to get a handful of beans for Mason, but give him a shot at the first team and at worst you add a few million to his sell on value, and at best you get a very good player.
It is actually quite sound business, and very Daniel Levy.
fatpiranha
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We'd get a lot of money for Vertonghen which we could spend on a replacement (I did specify that). Mason is on the list because I think he is worth much more than we could possibly sell him for, and he's homegrown so it doesn't really free up a place.
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Z Fryers - Just not good enough
BAE - Starting to get old, A lot of turbulence around this guy.
Carrol - Like the guy but dont think he will get much time on the pitch. Out on loan.
Daws - Not good enough. If we get inn Mussachio daws can go.
BAE - Starting to get old, A lot of turbulence around this guy.
Carrol - Like the guy but dont think he will get much time on the pitch. Out on loan.
Daws - Not good enough. If we get inn Mussachio daws can go.
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Going on the basis that we get the transfers we seem to be after..
Keepers - Lloris, Vorm, Brad = 3
Right back - Walker(HG), Naughton(HG), Fredericks(HG), Yedlin(?) = 4
Left back - Rose(HG), Davies(HG), BAE = 3
Centre back - Musacchio, Vert, Dier*, Veljkovic*, Fryers(HG), Dawson(HG), Kaboul, Vlad = 6
DM - Sandro, Capoue = 2
CM - Dembele, Paulinho, Holtby, Sneiderlinn(HG), Bentaleb*, Mason(HG), Carrol(HG) = 6
AM - Lamela, Eriksen, Lennon(HG), Chadli, Townsend(HG) = 5
ST - Kane(HG), Ade, Soldado = 3
Total = 32 - 7 need to go.
13 home grown
*=u21 so no need to be included
If Yedlin comes in, one of Naughton/Fredericks you'd expect to go. I'd be more comfortable keeping Naughton until Walkers fitness is sorted and untill Yedlin is settled.
At left back BAE surely must be a goner.
8 CBs is certainly overkill. Fryers, Kaboul, Dawson and Vlad are the contenders to go. I'd like to see Dawson kept as aside from being club captain he is the only one of those cbs that offers something a bit different needed in the PL. Kaboul is a good defender when good, but too often is a walking liability, not to mention the injuries too. Vlad, I can't see making it in the PL but maybe one turbulent season isn't the best place to have judged him. Fryers I can't see making it, especially now that we've seen more of Veljkovic and Dier has been brought in.
DM is sorted, although I worry about Sandros future. His style of play gets him injured far too often. But if we sell Sandro and Capoue gets injured again...we'd be left with no DMs.
CM is again over kill. I wish all the best of luck to Poch deciding what to do here! Mason surely is too old to make it now. And Carrol sadly just isn't good enough in one position to push forward despite his technical ability. I hope HOltby doesn't get sold as I strongly believe with the right tactical training on where to focus his energy he can become a very good CM. Is Dembele can up his tempo of play then he has the attributes to play the CM role as he has the passing unlike Paulinho.
I'd keep our AM as it is. It's relatively low on numbers as it is and I wouldn't want to see further change. But I suppose space will be needed to accommodate JRod in Jan..
ST are grand.
Summary;
sell/loan - Paulinho, Carrol, Mason, Fryers, Vlad, Kaboul, BAE, Fredericks
Squad size - 25
HG - 9
Hope I haven't missed anyone out!
Keepers - Lloris, Vorm, Brad = 3
Right back - Walker(HG), Naughton(HG), Fredericks(HG), Yedlin(?) = 4
Left back - Rose(HG), Davies(HG), BAE = 3
Centre back - Musacchio, Vert, Dier*, Veljkovic*, Fryers(HG), Dawson(HG), Kaboul, Vlad = 6
DM - Sandro, Capoue = 2
CM - Dembele, Paulinho, Holtby, Sneiderlinn(HG), Bentaleb*, Mason(HG), Carrol(HG) = 6
AM - Lamela, Eriksen, Lennon(HG), Chadli, Townsend(HG) = 5
ST - Kane(HG), Ade, Soldado = 3
Total = 32 - 7 need to go.
13 home grown
*=u21 so no need to be included
If Yedlin comes in, one of Naughton/Fredericks you'd expect to go. I'd be more comfortable keeping Naughton until Walkers fitness is sorted and untill Yedlin is settled.
At left back BAE surely must be a goner.
8 CBs is certainly overkill. Fryers, Kaboul, Dawson and Vlad are the contenders to go. I'd like to see Dawson kept as aside from being club captain he is the only one of those cbs that offers something a bit different needed in the PL. Kaboul is a good defender when good, but too often is a walking liability, not to mention the injuries too. Vlad, I can't see making it in the PL but maybe one turbulent season isn't the best place to have judged him. Fryers I can't see making it, especially now that we've seen more of Veljkovic and Dier has been brought in.
DM is sorted, although I worry about Sandros future. His style of play gets him injured far too often. But if we sell Sandro and Capoue gets injured again...we'd be left with no DMs.
CM is again over kill. I wish all the best of luck to Poch deciding what to do here! Mason surely is too old to make it now. And Carrol sadly just isn't good enough in one position to push forward despite his technical ability. I hope HOltby doesn't get sold as I strongly believe with the right tactical training on where to focus his energy he can become a very good CM. Is Dembele can up his tempo of play then he has the attributes to play the CM role as he has the passing unlike Paulinho.
I'd keep our AM as it is. It's relatively low on numbers as it is and I wouldn't want to see further change. But I suppose space will be needed to accommodate JRod in Jan..
ST are grand.
Summary;
sell/loan - Paulinho, Carrol, Mason, Fryers, Vlad, Kaboul, BAE, Fredericks
Squad size - 25
HG - 9
Hope I haven't missed anyone out!
