Luka expects to be at Spurs till the summer

[Roy1983]

His heart isnt 100% at Tottenham. For this simple reason I believe we should accept offers of £30m upwards now. Or whatever sum Levy feels is suitable to the club of course. We're bigger than him end of.

 

[StartingPrice]

His heart isnt 100% at Tottenham. For this simple reason I believe we should accept offers of £30m upwards now. Or whatever sum Levy feels is suitable to the club of course. We're bigger than him end of.

So, we turn down £40 million (equivalent allegedly) last Summer...but should now sell him to anyone who offers £30 million :shrug:

It is because we are bigger than him that we erefused to be bullied by him, his agent, Jorabchian-Rat and chelsea.

Going about introducing yourself to the site on the wrong tack with that sort of argument, Roy :wink:

 

[Real_madyidd]

His heart isnt 100% at Tottenham. For this simple reason I believe we should accept offers of £30m upwards now. Or whatever sum Levy feels is suitable to the club of course. We're bigger than him end of.

Which current players hearts are 100% at Tottenham? Which ones would turn down hard cash to stay with us?

 

[Roy1983]

Gotta say I disagree StartingPrice. I mean no-one knows what figures were offered by Chelsea last season and £40m wasnt official it was a figure branded about iirc? Didnt CFC offer £30m final offer?

Now we know money is his primary objective get rid in the summer I say. (Im guessing £££ IS his main thing seeing as right now Im guessing he'd go to Chelsea for the money despite our comparative league positions)

 

[Ionman34]

Gotta say I disagree StartingPrice. I mean no-one knows what figures were offered by Chelsea last season and £40m wasnt official it was a figure branded about iirc? Didnt CFC offer £30m final offer?

Now we know money is his primary objective get rid in the summer I say. (Im guessing £££ IS his main thing seeing as right now Im guessing he'd go to Chelsea for the money despite our comparative league positions)

IIRC they put in a 40 million bid late in the window.

He's going nowhere this season or next and using the 'He's only in it for the money so get rid ASAP' is rather naive tbh. Aitch is correct in that top players sould be top earners so Spurs need to match that. It is a rare person who would turn down a significant increase in wage and potential glory because they 'Love' the club they're at.
Shearer is the only one I can think of and he was born & bred Geordie. I doubt Luka sat on his living room floor, at 5 years of age, singing ' Me Love Chicken badge!'

 

[Mr Pink]

A little dissappointed by those comments but lets get real...its modern day football at the end of the day.

Bottam line, we still hold the power in this situation and if anybody thinks Levy is going to compromise our best ever potential finish to a Premier League season they're on drugs.

He won't be sold in January, that is clear. I guess he's saying lets see where we finish come June and what sort of contract I'm offered as a result if we finish top 4 again. Fair enough.


So yeah I would say it depends on three things:

1) where we finish
2) the strength of a new contract offer from ourselves
3) what other offers he receives

If we finish third and offer him over 100k a week I think he'll stay, obviously if we don't finish top four we'll be entertaining offers this time round.

 

[StartingPrice]

Gotta say I disagree StartingPrice. I mean no-one knows what figures were offered by Chelsea last season and £40m wasnt official it was a figure branded about iirc? Didnt CFC offer £30m final offer?

Now we know money is his primary objective get rid in the summer I say. (Im guessing £££ IS his main thing seeing as right now Im guessing he'd go to Chelsea for the money despite our comparative league positions)

See, that's whu I said "£40 million equivalent allegedly".

Your logic is very faulty: he isn't as big as the club, therefore we should sell him for less than we believe his market value is, after stating he absolutely was not for sale, and make ourselves weaker and the rivals, we are trying to overtake, stronger, in the process! Sorry, but that is illogical.

I have no sentimental reasons for wanting to keep him, now...but even so, he has nearly 5 years left on his contract and is a great player. Therefore, unless it is a deal we really can't turn down (which would have to be approaching £50 million - more IMHO), unless we could even remotely adequately replcae him, and unless it was to an overseas team, thereby not directly strengthening a rival, I really don't see how it could be to our advantage to sell him. If we are bigger than him and have him on a 5 year contract, why on Earth would we want to do something that isn't to our advantage :shrug:

 

[C-oops]

With the financial fair play rules which are now kicking in I doubt anyone can afford to pay what we'd want for him. 50m at least. Surely teams like chelsea need to start cutting back on wages too.

 

[tototoner]

Chelsea didn't offer £40M in the summer

They offered £30M plus Kalou who Chelsea valued at £10M, but I work that deal out at approx £31M because Kalou is shite.

 

[Roy1983]

IIRC they put in a 40 million bid late in the window.

He's going nowhere this season or next and using the 'He's only in it for the money so get rid ASAP' is rather naive tbh. Aitch is correct in that top players sould be top earners so Spurs need to match that. It is a rare person who would turn down a significant increase in wage and potential glory because they 'Love' the club they're at.
Shearer is the only one I can think of and he was born & bred Geordie. I doubt Luka sat on his living room floor, at 5 years of age, singing ' Me Love Chicken badge!'

Naive how so? Fair play money comes into it but right now he's at a club performing considerably better in the league. Therefore, if he was to join Chelsea it'd be all about the money for me.

Im not denying that 99/100 modern day players would put money first but if I was Levy Id want him out of the club in the summer especially if he keeps on with consistently talking in interviews about possible moves away.

The fee is irrelevant for me. If Chelsea offer what we're asking for send the mercenary on his bike.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

His heart isnt 100% at Tottenham. For this simple reason I believe we should accept offers of £30m upwards now. Or whatever sum Levy feels is suitable to the club of course. We're bigger than him end of.

You're joking, right?

 

[Roy1983]

You're joking, right?

No why what made you laugh?

 

[DotNetCoder]

I've seen the original translation and whichever way you translate it - he's still covering himself for an exit at the end of the season.

On the flipside, for example, Bale has publicly said [months back] he's staying with the club, with no cover-speak - and that's the difference between the two.

If results don't go our way this season, Modders + agent(s) will kick up a big stink next summer.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

No why what made you laugh?

He is contracted to us, we want to be as good as we possibly can. He is a great player. He is not a negative influence on the dressing room. He makes us tick. We don't need the money. Top clubs don't sell their best players who have long contracts. His comments suggest that he will want to continue with Spurs if we are in the UCL. He is wanted by Chelsea and Man utd, our rivals.

AND YOU WANT TO SELL HIM!!!

That's what made me laugh.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

I've seen the original translation and whichever way you translate it - he's still covering himself for an exit at the end of the season.

On the flipside, for example, Bale has publicly said [months back] he's staying with the club, with no cover-speak - and that's the difference between the two.

If results don't go our way this season, Modders + agent(s) will kick up a big stink next summer.

Oh FFS, if we fail to get UCL, he will probably want to go, if we get UCL he will sign a new contract. Simples.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

It's all about the spin, as one can easily see by reading this very positive take on precisely the same quotes:

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...dric-im-almost-certain-stay-spurs-rest-season

They've decided to run it as "good news for Spurs", but it's exactly the same story.

The ridiculous suggestion that we should sell him for £30m because "his heart isn't at Spurs" is from the last century, if not from an alternative universe. Whose "heart" would be at Spurs if they weren't paid to play? He trains, he turns up and he's usually our best player. As long as that continues, why on earth would Spurs want to throw away a four year contractual commitment?

...I guess he's saying lets see where we finish come June and what sort of contract I'm offered as a result if we finish top 4 again. Fair enough.

So yeah I would say it depends on three things:

1) where we finish
2) the strength of a new contract offer from ourselves
3) what other offers he receives

I reckon a fourth thing is also causing him hesitation in signing a new deal at Tottenham: not knowing who the manager will be in August 2012.

 

[worcestersauce]

He was never going in January and if we don't get a huge offer in the summer he's not going then either, it will be different then because we are no doubt looking around for eventual replacements and so if we deal we will deal on our terms and be potential title challengers rather than Europa league hopefulls as we were last summer.
£30mil would be a good starting point, then double it and go on from there

Just as an aside Sky Andrews was on Sky this morning talking about transfer window and the Twonk presenter interviewing him closed with "lets hope there are lots of transfers as that's good for you and good for us" so that shows you where their interest lies, no wonder they push every transfer as much as they can.

 

[Roy1983]

He is contracted to us, we want to be as good as we possibly can. He is a great player. He is not a negative influence on the dressing room. He makes us tick. We don't need the money. Top clubs don't sell their best players who have long contracts. His comments suggest that he will want to continue with Spurs if we are in the UCL. He is wanted by Chelsea and Man utd, our rivals.

AND YOU WANT TO SELL HIM!!!

That's what made me laugh.

Yes, yes and yes to answer your top 3 points. He doesnt seem to be a negative influence no but we dont know all the little conversations that go on between players. He makes us tick yes. Football clubs always need the money mate. What has he EVER said that makes you believe he'll stay with us if we are in the CL?

Im actually asking btw as Ive not read anything like it.

My point is that if a player wants to leave, as I believe he does deep down, its pointless keeping him.

 

[tototoner]

He was never going in January and if we don't get a huge offer in the summer he's not going then either, it will be different then because we are no doubt looking around for eventual replacements and so if we deal we will deal on our terms and be potential title challengers rather than Europa league hopefulls as we were last summer.
£30mil would be a good starting point, then double it and go on from there

Just as an aside Sky Andrews was on Sky this morning talking about transfer window and the Twonk presenter interviewing him closed with "lets hope there are lots of transfers as that's good for you and good for us" so that shows you where their interest lies, no wonder they push every transfer as much as they can.

SSN get a collective stiffy during the transfer window

 

[DotNetCoder]

I reckon a fourth thing is also causing him hesitation in signing a new deal at Tottenham: not knowing who the manager will be in August 2012.

Agreed on this.

But it's not just a spin thing - Modders offered up the "theorically I could leave" words, and that's why some of us are worried.

Obviously we'll finish 3rd, and they're be no problem but hey! Makes you wonder where his head is, even now.