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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

mdharris

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Convinced this is the same exact person that runs the NoNonceThing account that tweets about Arteta and Arsenal. It's scarily similar, completely over the top, and has no basis in reality. Blocked them on twitter because it's so absurd.
Yes this B twitter account is absolutely dreadful. Pure exaggeration and extreme tactico language with the goal of getting engagement. What he/she actually says is nonsense.
 

Nebby

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I hope this place doesn’t become even more toxic than normal, and Ange is given time.. Clearly, the team as a whole has begun to embrace his ideas going forwards, but a lot of work still needs to be done defensively. This won’t be fixed by the signing of vdV, who is far from the finished article.
 

Derryank

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I hope this place doesn’t become even more toxic than normal, and Ange is given time.. Clearly, the team as a whole has begun to embrace his ideas going forwards, but a lot of work still needs to be done defensively. This won’t be fixed by the signing of vdV, who is far from the finished article.
Excellent post. Long way to go in the process.
 

arunspurs

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Isn't this the shit talker that claimed Veliz was shit in the air and his strengths were long range passes, vision and dribbling? And also claimed Postecoglou invented inverted FBs?

If so, it won't be good analysis, it will be just content for likes and retweets.

I had muted this dude a long time ago in twitter. Requesting all to not post his nonsense here
 

yido_number1

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Just read Ange’s post March comments on Football London and love his answer on how ready he thinks we are for Sunday and how happy he is with progress (asked on the back of him saying we’re probably 1 or 2 games short in our preseason prep because of the Leicester wash-out and Roma):

“It's irrelevant. We've got to be ready. It's not going to wait for us. Come Sunday we need to be ready and we will be”.

He’s not making any excuses. Not only is he not making any excuses but he’s rejecting the opportunity to use an easy excuse. Can you imagine the song and dance Jose or Conte would be making about our Leicester and Roma games not happening? Ange is doing the opposite and in doing so is hopefully setting a very different tone among the players.
We need to move on from every other post being about mourinho and conte would have done this blah blah blah.

Especially when Ange blamed his start at Celtic on not getting enough players in quick enough at celtic.

All managers will blame things move on and just enjoy the moment.
 

spurmin

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I hope this place doesn’t become even more toxic than normal, and Ange is given time.. Clearly, the team as a whole has begun to embrace his ideas going forwards, but a lot of work still needs to be done defensively. This won’t be fixed by the signing of vdV, who is far from the finished article.
This place will be come toxic as normal. Wait for the match day threads.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Yes this B twitter account is absolutely dreadful. Pure exaggeration and extreme tactico language with the goal of getting engagement. What he/she actually says is nonsense.

Yeah I stopped taking that account seriously when they put Bentancur at right wing back in a predicted Ange line up 😂
 

shoggy33

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I'm excited, there were times last night when I couldn't believe what I was watching. Compare that to how our B team have performed in the cups over the last few years, even against lower league opposition. I simply didn't think some of players were capable of moving the ball around like that, it's seriously impressive how quickly Ange has implemented his style. I'm weirdly confident going into the season, especially as everyone else has written us off. Niggling concern is obviously the defence. We don't concede many chances, but when we do the ball always seems to end up in the net. Hopefully that will improve with better/more suitable defenders, but I do worry that might just be a feature of this style of play. Also we are only ever an injury away from Dier/Sanchez etc starting and we all know how that ends. I think we are going to be a lot of fun the neutral to watch this season!
 

bigfrooj

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I'm excited, there were times last night when I couldn't believe what I was watching. Compare that to how our B team have performed in the cups over the last few years, even against lower league opposition. I simply didn't think some of players were capable of moving the ball around like that, it's seriously impressive how quickly Ange has implemented his style. I'm weirdly confident going into the season, especially as everyone else has written us off. Niggling concern is obviously the defence. We don't concede many chances, but when we do the ball always seems to end up in the net. Hopefully that will improve with better/more suitable defenders, but I do worry that might just be a feature of this style of play. Also we are only ever an injury away from Dier/Sanchez etc starting and we all know how that ends. I think we are going to be a lot of fun the neutral to watch this season!
Such a good post then you have a go at Sanchez. Everyone else showed how great they could be and you were happy. Sanchez played really well, as he is capable of, so maybe he will thrive under this manager and in this system too? Let's be consistent.
You're right this season will be fun though 👍
 

Tucker

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I hope this place doesn’t become even more toxic than normal, and Ange is given time.. Clearly, the team as a whole has begun to embrace his ideas going forwards, but a lot of work still needs to be done defensively. This won’t be fixed by the signing of vdV, who is far from the finished article.
Think there’ll be a few hair raising results in the short term. I don’t think defence is the only thing that needs work either, our forwards need to be a little more clinical (if Harry goes especially.)

Can see us dishing out a few hidings, but can also see us being on the end of some defeats where we didn’t really deserve to lose. Case in point last night and the West Ham result earlier in preseason. We can clearly dominate games, we just need to finish teams off.
 

Japhet

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I would say this - we should be better defensively when its a back line of Royal, Romero, VdV, Udogie. Taller, faster, stronger.

I can see why Ange still wants another CB - though I was more impressed with Sanchez tonight. But, another LCB would be nice. Interesting choice of Dier with the armband - I wonder if that is an indication of his spot in the pecking order.

I'd keep Sanchez over Dier purely due to the style of play and the need for pace at the back. Dier's skillset is absolutely shocking for this sort of football. Sanchez has been badly exposed for a few seasons in the low/mid block rubbish we've had to endure, but with our CBs now pushing so high he could be a really useful component if we can't get a decent bid.
 

shoggy33

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Such a good post then you have a go at Sanchez. Everyone else showed how great they could be and you were happy. Sanchez played really well, as he is capable of, so maybe he will thrive under this manager and in this system too? Let's be consistent.
You're right this season will be fun though 👍

I'm not having a go at Sanchez at all, or Dier for that matter. Sanchez did play well, but he's always had a good performance in him, it's just never long before a really poor performance comes along. I don't see a new system changing the fact that he is very error prone, or that Dier is too slow. The defence is just a concern, but anyway I get your point, the overall impression is positive at the moment.
 

Timberwolf

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Yeah I stopped taking that account seriously when they put Bentancur at right wing back in a predicted Ange line up 😂
Yeah just had a scroll through the posts and jesus christ...

About 50 posts a day of non-stop bollocks trying to gain traction by telling everyone how great Spurs are. Says we'll have too much going forward for Man City to handle and that if we sign Laporte we'll win the league.

Guy's just desperately fishing for follows by writing any old guff. Probably a 16 year old bored in the summer holidays trying to make their name on Twitter.
 

Japhet

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I'm not having a go at Sanchez at all, or Dier for that matter. Sanchez did play well, but he's always had a good performance in him, it's just never long before a really poor performance comes along. I don't see a new system changing the fact that he is very error prone, or that Dier is too slow. The defence is just a concern, but anyway I get your point, the overall impression is positive at the moment.


Postecoglou's style suits Sanchez a hell of a lot better than Dier. Mourinho and Conte systems suited Dier when he was largely playing what was in front of him. As soon as he got turned or a player got a run at him it was often curtains. Sanchez has the pace to play a high line, but the low/mid block systems highlighted all of his weaknesses and dented his confidence.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Loving how Ange is handling the media with all of this uncertainty. So calm and composed and focused.

Many of our other former 3 recent managers and/or other managers would be losing their head over this and adding fuel to the fire.

Ange such a calming influence even though clearly it will be causing him some frustration, but as he says he just focuses on what’s in front of him, gives his input where needed and adapts where needed.

He’s the absolute perfect person for this situation our rebuild and handling Levy all combined.
 

Nebby

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Postecoglou's style suits Sanchez a hell of a lot better than Dier. Mourinho and Conte systems suited Dier when he was largely playing what was in front of him. As soon as he got turned or a player got a run at him it was often curtains. Sanchez has the pace to play a high line, but the low/mid block systems highlighted all of his weaknesses and dented his confidence.
I thought Dier was doing absolutely fine until about 80 minutes, when he - and a few others - all ran out of steam. What that showed was that the midfield press will be just as important as the pace of our actual defenders. The system really does hinge on defending from the front.
 

Japhet

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I thought Dier was doing absolutely fine until about 80 minutes, when he - and a few others - all ran out of steam. What that showed was that the midfield press will be just as important as the pace of our actual defenders. The system really does hinge on defending from the front.

I only saw highlights but read a lot of the comments. I just think Dier would be a real liability in a high line, but in all fairness I've written him off before and he came back strong after his illness.
 

Goobers

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It's testament to the man and the way he has done work that in my eyes he has earned the patience and time to creat his vision of us. My view may well be scewed by the last two regimes but he has been a true breath of fresh air in the way he speaks and acts. And the football ... well I think we have all seen the difference there.
 
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