Match Ratings VS West Bromich Albion

[DC_Boy]

hi again 18 - just caught up with some of the thread

unsurprisingly a lot of the naysayers i don't read anymore

i honestly don't see how jj had a bad game today

i'll check the stats later

bentley i'm on record as saying joh should have started the last three games ahead of him

but i would never abuse bentley or any of our players unless they did something far far worse than playing badly

actually i blame hr for keep playing him but im still backing harry btw

 

[General Levy]

hi again 18 - just caught up with some of the thread

unsurprisingly a lot of the naysayers i don't read anymore

i honestly don't see how jj had a bad game today

i'll check the stats later

bentley i'm on record as saying joh should have started the last three games ahead of him

but i would never abuse bentley or any of our players unless they did something far far worse than playing badly

actually i blame hr for keep playing him but im still backing harry btw

lol that you put people on ignore. How ridiculous.

 

[Adam]

Sometimes i feel that people try and hide how bad we are by just saying knee jerk this and knee jerk that. To me, that suggests a lack of realism. We are fucking shit. Thats not knee jerk, thats not based on the fact that we have one point from what should have been 9 stick ons, but its based on the fact that we are 3 points from the bottom of the table and only out of the zone on goal difference. In fact, if we were in La liga, we'd be in the relegation zone at the minute.

If you really are that stupid to think that the majority of us are unreasonably annoyed then i feel sorry for you, because relegation is going to hurt you a lot more than it will hurt me. Im ready for it, you're not. At the end of the day, you just need to accept how bad we are and stop telling people that their reactions are formed through emotion rather than reason, because at the end of the day, that is what a kneejerk reaction is. To say that about any fan criticising our disgraceful team is quite frankly ridiculous.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

Gomes 8 - one mistake but a lot of good saves.
Corluka 6 - nothing wrong, nothing right.
Dawson 6.5 - ok apart from that mistake, it might be referee poor decision.
Woodgate 6 - really don't know how to judge him
Ekotto 5 - deserved red card despite it was unlucky one. But took his chances and mistakes enough.
Zokora 4 - very poor game, with every things.
Jenas 3 - the worst performance this season.
Bentley 4 - nothing new with players out of positions, as usual.
Lennon 6 - ok.
Modric 5.5 - lost in very bad team. Can't blame him at all.
Bent 2 - one miss which he should do better, poor diving & don't know what he is doing.

not enough time for the subs.

Redknapp 0 - His team selection and tactics produce very boring football and even his poor subs costs us points again. He didn't act for the red card. He is good DoF but poor coach. Don't deserve the job until a huge change in his defensive tactics.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

What rating does HR get ? Picking Bentley again FFS that's like playing with 10 right from the start, if you get a player sent off and then keep DB on then you're basically playing with 9 on the pitch, no chance.

 

[sim0n]

OK fair doos, does this justify the personal abuse he gets though?

Nope, but I do not abuse him "personally"

I never wrote that he's a bad bloke, or that he kicks his dog, or that he swears at his Mum, etc

I have written that I've seen him disappear in games, that he loses possession too much, he lacks "killer" passing instincts, he's a world class athelete, but he's a poor footballer. Today, I wrote that he's not good enough for Spurs (presuming Spurs TRULY want to be a top 4 side) and that I hope he goes in the January Transfer window. I also wrote that I wish him luck in his future away from WHL.

Nothing personal as I'm sure he's a smashing lad. I'm just sick of watching his "drift out of the game" strategy employed at Spurs, that's all :razz:

 

[MattWilliams]

To be honest, midfield-wise I thought Modric was our weak link today. I love the guy but he looked very weak and was wasteful today. Jenas had to move into a defensive role after the sending off and did a decent job of breaking up play. He also made a couple of nice touches that would have sent Bent through, if he'd been paying attention and watching his offsides... Bentley, I actually thought was half decent. Especially until the sending off, WBA were parking the bus but we were doing a good job of moving them about (if not creating chances) and I thought it was only a matter of time.

Something is missing at the moment and I'm wondering if there isn't more going on behind the scenes than we realise. Every player out there is good enough to compete against every team in the league but at the moment our guys only seem to be switching on when playing against the big boys.

 

[sim0n]

lol that you put people on ignore. How ridiculous.

How will he know? You're on "ignore" :razz:

Can I put today's referee on ignore?

 

[hybridsoldier]

Redknapp 0 - His team selection and tactics produce very boring football and even his poor subs costs us points again. He didn't act for the red card. He is good DoF but poor coach. Don't deserve the job until a huge change in his defensive tactics.

whoa whoa whoa, wait a second mate! You do remember that this same squad got 2 points from the first 8 games! The squad was bought to play 4-5-1, and only 4-5-1. But then it was realised that actually 4-5-1 didn't work for us! Because we didnt have that talismanic battering ram of a forward to lead the line, and Modric wasnt Gerrard or Lampard!

Harry has done the best he can with what he inherited, and has ended up having to play 4-5-1 because you cant accomodate Modric into a 4-4-2, and you supposedly HAVE to play Modric, he's the only international class player we have.

I dont think we should criticise Harry 2 months into the job with a group of players that had 2pts from 8 games.

I know I back him alot but Darren Bent is the problem, he doesnt play well in a 4-5-1 at all, we never create anything, when Pav plays we are maginally better, but only marginally!

 

[General Levy]

How will he know? You're on "ignore" :razz:

Can I put today's referee on ignore?

I'm not ignore though. DC and I are good buddies:hump::hello:

 

[sim0n]

I'm not ignore though. DC and I are good buddies:hump::hello:

I can't hear you, you're on ignore

 

[DC_Boy]

To be honest, midfield-wise I thought Modric was our weak link today. I love the guy but he looked very weak and was wasteful today. Jenas had to move into a defensive role after the sending off and did a decent job of breaking up play. He also made a couple of nice touches that would have sent Bent through, if he'd been paying attention and watching his offsides... .

well said MW

 

[mabolsa_ritchey]

I went for Woody as motm, but thought Gomes was also brilliant today.
In regards to the usual slagging off the players, I haven't got a problem with that on here, I do it on here. My problem is when they're getting jeered while they're on the pitch.
We're in a relegation battle, and if they keep getting jeered while playing, they will continue to mess up and we WILL get relegated.

 

[DC_Boy]

I went for Woody as motm, but thought Gomes was also brilliant today.
In regards to the usual slagging off the players, I haven't got a problem with that on here, I do it on here. My problem is when they're getting jeered while they're on the pitch.
We're in a relegation battle, and if they keep getting jeered while playing, they will continue to mess up and we WILL get relegated.

well said MR

 

[Spurs_Q8]

whoa whoa whoa, wait a second mate! You do remember that this same squad got 2 points from the first 8 games! The squad was bought to play 4-5-1, and only 4-5-1. But then it was realised that actually 4-5-1 didn't work for us! Because we didnt have that talismanic battering ram of a forward to lead the line, and Modric wasnt Gerrard or Lampard!

Harry has done the best he can with what he inherited, and has ended up having to play 4-5-1 because you cant accomodate Modric into a 4-4-2, and you supposedly HAVE to play Modric, he's the only international class player we have.

I dont think we should criticise Harry 2 months into the job with a group of players that had 2pts from 8 games.

I know I back him alot but Darren Bent is the problem, he doesnt play well in a 4-5-1 at all, we never create anything, when Pav plays we are maginally better, but only marginally!

The same squad got 2 pts, but in the first three game we were with ONE striker, Pavyluchenko was new for the rest five and even, Bale was unfit, Hutton was injuried & even Modric missed some part of it AND if Ramos did poor job, this doesn't mean Redknapp - as £5m replacement - shouldn't share the blame. He appointed here to improve us because Levy thought it was good squad and the manager isn't doing well. Redknapp mistakes now nothing to do with current squad signed for 4-5-1.

Redknapp is very defensive minded manager, and you can look at that by looking at a lot of decisions since he come. First, looks at his line-up at Fulham and Man City, using 4-5-1 with THREE Middle players PLUS playmaker one [ Modric ] left !! Using two defensive fullbacks in 4-5-1 without given any chance for his attacking fullbacks Gunter/Bale even at home games !

Tell me what he was doing with Newcastle, 65 mins and then taking Roman off for Campbell ? Then watching the game as watcher and didn't do anything for some of under-performer players likes Huddle,Zokora, Bentley and even Lennon who should be switched to LM instead. In a time Campbell made very poor game vs Spartak/Newcastle, he used him instead of Roman vs Fulham. AMAZING.

Today was another story, Ekotto sent off, instead of using Zokora as RB and tacking one of Dawson ( Yellow card ) or Bentley for Bale, he used Zokora where he made very poor game. Later, taking of Bentley & Modric for O'Hara and Bale, this killed our hopes to creat a single chance vs the team who is 20th in stands.

I'm angry and nothing against Redknapp or any single players, That's just because I'm sick of this very boring football and some of lucky results. I want US to play better and win games. Not look for 0-0 or 1-0 or 2-1 wins or defeats.

 

[senseispab]

I'm sorry to annoy you by simply trying to defend my teams players from the aggressive hate mob that do nothing but serve to make them play worse.

I try and be considered, sorry if you have a problem with that.

It's just footballers. They're not your family.

A bit of aggressive language here and there is part and parcel of being a fan.

I far prefer some of the witty ranters to those who would try and take the moral high ground when there really isn't any to be had.

 

[tony0379]

campbell for me!
done a couple of nice flix when warming up at half time,reall impressed me!!!

 

[Coyboy]

i went gomes faultless from the time i picked up on a stream - about 35 mins and BAE is off grrrrr

Well you must have lost your stream when Gomes missed crosses from corners. He made some great saves but he was hardly faultless.

 

[Black]

Defence is fine, scoring goals is our problem and 1 isolated striker upfront don't help

Bent is currently having to win headers then try and win the knock downs while Lennon is hugging the touch line and Modric is standing behind Jenas same thing happens when Pav plays. When we have the ball in open play Modric drops deep to collect the ball which again leave Bent up top marked by 2 defenders Lennon is still hugging the touch line Bentley is dilly dallying and Jenas is standing behind Luka.

The team that harry puts out doesn't look like a team that wants 3 points, on top of the negative formation starting to looks like way Ramos played, controlling the game but not creating anything in the final third. There's no real push from our attacking players to make runs get into space make the defenders worry about something other than Bent. When ever Corluka, BAE, Zokora have the ball no one ahead of them really wants to make anythink happen what resuts in a long ball to Bent. :duh:

Gomes 8 - played well, couple he went for and never got thou
Corluka 6 - nothing wrong, nothing right.
Dawson 7 - Good game
Woodgate 7 - Good game
Ekotto 8 - Was playing well until he went off, i thought the red card was a soft one
Zokora 6.5 - Was fine in the midfield, then he went to left back where his lack of left foot lets him down
Jenas 6 - Played like normal
Bentley 4 - Hes just to slow, He f@#k's up near enough 9/10 of our free kick and corners
Lennon 5 - Still doesn't work the defenders enough, defending is good
Modric 5 - What is his role supporting Bent or supporting Jenas
Bent 6 - Would get better support if he live in Zimbabwe.

The red card made us all defensive and we never looked to win or score after that

 

[Adam]

The thing about taking the moral highground on slagging off players is that the players dont give a shit about us in the first place. There's no loyalty in the game anymore and id say that 99.9 percent of the people involved in football would move anywhere to chase an extra buck or two. Because of that, the only thing that we should support is the shirt. Apart from the colour of your home kit, the only other continuity at a club is the fans, and because of that i will happily give a player stick if they deserve it because at the end of the day, they dont give a shit anyway. To criticise someone for slagging off a player who isnt giving his all for a club that we fund is ridiculous-without the players the club will survive, without the fans the club will be fucked and its about time that some of the people in our club were reminded of that.