Miralem Pjanic

[spursfan1991]

He is a modric esque player, if he is still good, then he will improve the team massively. A player of his attributes is exactly what we have been missing in midfield for awhile now.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Why would anyone still thinks we can attract big names when we are not in CL, got Nuno as our head coach and Covid affecting our finances with a huge pile of deadwood in the squad. This is exactly the kind of deal we should be looking at and making it happen, because ultimately football wise, he improves more than half of the midfield players we currently have.

 

[OPModric]

correct, there will be no future resale value on the player currently being offered around without a transfer fee.

No transfer fee...but with high wages and a big sign-on. So all things included it can be the most costly transfer of them all.

 

[DiamondLites]

Question marks over his physicality in the PL, but he could certainly bring a Moutinho like poise and technical quality to the midfield, as well as being a set piece specialist which is something sorely lacking at the club

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Currently Pjanic isn't better than Ndombele or Lo Celso. He wouldn't be guaranteed starter so paying >200k for backup player wouldn't be smart.

Christ the way some of our fans view our own players is mad lol.

 

[yankspurs]

Christ the way some of our fans view our own players is mad lol.

Almost as baffling as the way they view younger players we are linked with they havent heard of until the first link. Under 23? Best thing since sliced bread. Sign him immediately. Over 30? Terrible. Old. Not better than what we have. Would be a waste.

It’s the bracket in between is where it gets semi realistic.

 

[Roberts84]

But no resale value with a guy in Pjanic age either. Compare that to a young player that may raise in value.

What’s resale value got to do with it if he’s on a free ?‍

 

[worcestersauce]

Dodgy accounting combined with Barca trying to keep Messi.

Let's do that then, tell we'll pay him triple the wages we paid Oliver Skipp last year.

 

[OPModric]

What’s resale value got to do with it if he’s on a free ?‍

What do you think? The discussion is whether a free transfer really is good value (as the word free suggest) and sometimes it isn't.

Donnarumma on a free transfer is good value, it's not a certain Pjanic is.

Anyway, I really liked Pjanic in Roma and Juventus. I haven't seen him in Barca but I have assumed he regressed a bit because he didn't play that much.

 

[Franchise60]

No transfer fee...but with high wages and a big sign-on. So all things included it can be the most costly transfer of them all.

This logic rarely gets used when talking about normal signings or when we brought in Bale though. If we buy a player for 10M and sell him for 10M it means “we got our money back”.

But with this signing all of a sudden wages would be a sunk cost when it really isn’t different than other signings except we wouldn’t be paying a transfer fee or expecting a sell on fee.

No one is saying to break out wage structure to bring Pjanic in. People quoting 42M give me a break we are never paying for that number and it doesn’t seem real based on info out there.

If we could get him for ~150-160k a week without a transfer fee that wouldn’t be bad business. That’s all some or saying. The “nothing is free” crowd are doing some serious mental gymnastics to suggest anyone is saying anything different.

 

[DiVaio]

Christ the way some of our fans view our own players is mad lol.

Or just doesn't overrate other players.

 

[S17PUR]

Ultimately if we could sell Winks for £25m and bring in Pjanic on a free or on loan, that'd be pretty good business wouldn't it? Yes, his wages would be higher but surely that'd be more than offset by the transfer fee we'd receive for Winks.

I know it's a simplistic way of looking at it, but I'd assume we're going to be operating more or less on a 1 in 1 out basis this window.

 

[Gbspurs]

Ultimately if we could sell Winks for £25m and bring in Pjanic on a free or on loan, that'd be pretty good business wouldn't it? Yes, his wages would be higher but surely that'd be more than offset by the transfer fee we'd receive for Winks.

I know it's a simplistic way of looking at it, but I'd assume we're going to be operating more or less on a 1 in 1 out basis this window.

Yes it would but try explaining that to the shit for brains in here. Football has become so obsessed with form that people can't see if a player is good or bad unless he is shit hot right now. It's baffling.

 

[OPModric]

This logic rarely gets used when talking about normal signings or when we brought in Bale though. If we buy a player for 10M and sell him for 10M it means “we got our money back”.

But with this signing all of a sudden wages would be a sunk cost when it really isn’t different than other signings except we wouldn’t be paying a transfer fee or expecting a sell on fee.

No one is saying to break out wage structure to bring Pjanic in. People quoting 42M give me a break we are never paying for that number and it doesn’t seem real based on info out there.

If we could get him for ~150-160k a week without a transfer fee that wouldn’t be bad business. That’s all some or saying. The “nothing is free” crowd are doing some serious mental gymnastics to suggest anyone is saying anything different.

Ok, I can give you an example. When Ramsey signed for Juve on a free transfer he got the highest wage ever for a GB-player with over 400k/week (Ornstein). Do you really think Ramsey would have got that much if he wasn't a free transfer?

 

[synththfc]

Christ the way some of our fans view our own players is mad lol.

Bizarre. Lo Celso, our Eriksen replacement and creative midfielder has something like 4 goal contributions in the league since joining us. Pjanic did that in his last season at Juve, when he was supposedly "finished", from a much deeper position

 

[tiger666]

Where is the link for this anyway? It's an article in AS apparently. What does it say and how reliable are they?

 

[Roberts84]

Ok, I can give you an example. When Ramsey signed for Juve on a free transfer he got the highest wage ever for a GB-player with over 400k/week (Ornstein). Do you really think Ramsey would have got that much if he wasn't a free transfer?

Now what sort of idiot would sign him on a contract worth that amount…?

 

[synththfc]

Where is the link for this anyway? It's an article in AS apparently. What does it say and how reliable are they?

There's an article about it in each of the big 3 Spanish papers that cover Barcelona - Sport, Mundo Deportivo, and AS (who are more Madrid-based). All say the same thing, Paratici wants to get this deal done but Pjanic is waiting for Juve before he commits to anywhere else.

 

[tiger666]

There's an article about it in each of the big 3 Spanish papers that cover Barcelona - Sport, Mundo Deportivo, and AS (who are more Madrid-based). All say the same thing, Paratici wants to get this deal done but Pjanic is waiting for Juve before he commits to anywhere else.

Any links?

 

[Franchise60]

Ok, I can give you an example. When Ramsey signed for Juve on a free transfer he got the highest wage ever for a GB-player with over 400k/week (Ornstein). Do you really think Ramsey would have got that much if he wasn't a free transfer?

Ramsey is a completely different scenario though. Obviously players without a contract can demand a higher wage. Pjanic is at a club that doesn’t want him and may be willing to give him up to get off his wages. These are not the same things.

Barca isn’t going to just release Pjanic because then they’d have to pay him his wages. That’s why Danny Rose was still a Spurs player up until last month.

Also, our club has a wage structure and will never pay someone like Pjanic more than Kane or Son. It’s a non starter. No one is saying to pay Pjanic 300k a week. No one.

The better example is Bale. Madrid didn’t want to pay his whole salary to not play so Spurs paid a portion of his salary and got him on loan. That’s the type of deal that could maybe happen here, not Ramsey to Juve for 400k.