Morgan Schneiderlin

[E17yid]

Being top of the academy at 19 is not a brilliant predictor for being top of the first team squad at 24.

He was one of our best players last season, not bad for a 19 year old. Especially at a humungous club like Tottenham Hotspur Chciken Badge

 

[Mr Pink]

I think Capoue and Bentaleb is our best CM pairing and I don't think Schneiderlin is better than Capoue.

However if we sold one of Sandro/Dembele/Paulinho then Schneiderlin would be a good replacement for one of them.

You're confusing them. Schneiderlin is more like Bentaleb in style than Capoue. And he's at a far higher level than young Bentaleb - at the moment.

He's being grossly underrated IMO.

 

[St José Dominguez]

You're confusing them. Schneiderlin is more like Bentaleb in style than Capoue. And he's at a far higher level than young Bentaleb - at the moment.

He's being grossly underrated IMO.

I'm not sure he actually is closer to Bentaleb though. Capoue is an excellent passer of the ball. I agree though its a little too early to be putting this much pressure on Bentaleb. Capoue, MS and Bentaleb to choose from for the defensive minded CM position/s sounds very good.

 

[TheAmerican]

You're confusing them. Schneiderlin is more like Bentaleb in style than Capoue. And he's at a far higher level than young Bentaleb - at the moment.

He's being grossly underrated IMO.

IMO we will be seeing Holtby before Bentaleb. I think Capoue is currently a sure thing in our starting XI, and the spot next to him will see more competition. Holtby was excellent against Schalke, I was amazed at how deep he was dropping back during the game. The role suits him well.

 

[SEANSPURS1975]

Is Schneiderlin an upgrade on Capoue or Dembele? No.
With Pochettino's coaching would love to see Capoue and Dembele in midfield. A fit Dembele walks into our team. Potentially these 2 could be something special...

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Is Schneiderlin an upgrade on Capoue or Dembele? No.
With Pochettino's coaching would love to see Capoue and Dembele in midfield. A fit Dembele walks into our team. Potentially these 2 could be something special...

Schneiderlin is an upgrade on Dembele. By far.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

I've given up trying to second guess this deal. Southampton, Spurs, his agent will all be trying to play games and manipulate the situation-but to manipulate it to which conclusion is something that we just aren't going to know until the end of the window.

We could have told him that we can't complete the deal and so he's had no choice but to train and start with Southampton, alternatively Southampton might have told him he can go late in the window but he must keep up appearances as it were.

What I do know is that many are underestimating the player and the improvements he'd bring to Pochs system. Bentaleb may have potential, but he isn't at Schneiderlins level yet. Capoue would be great foil for MS.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

I'm not sure he actually is closer to Bentaleb though. Capoue is an excellent passer of the ball. I agree though its a little too early to be putting this much pressure on Bentaleb. Capoue, MS and Bentaleb to choose from for the defensive minded CM position/s sounds very good.

Schneiderlin would next the defensive player of Capoue, not instead of.

 

[Mr Pink]

I'm not sure he actually is closer to Bentaleb though. Capoue is an excellent passer of the ball. I agree though its a little too early to be putting this much pressure on Bentaleb. Capoue, MS and Bentaleb to choose from for the defensive minded CM position/s sounds very good.

For me he definitely is...has that bit of everything. Schneiderlin and Bentaleb are more tenacious/gritty...and they're definitely more agile and mobile. They would cover more ground.

Capoue, although he can venture forward, primarily sits and looks to supply cutting edge passing from those deeper areas.

If you've watched Southampton plenty, and particularly MS, you should be drawing similar conclusions.

 

[Mr Pink]

IMO we will be seeing Holtby before Bentaleb. I think Capoue is currently a sure thing in our starting XI, and the spot next to him will see more competition. Holtby was excellent against Schalke, I was amazed at how deep he was dropping back during the game. The role suits him well.

Holtby will have to improve considerably in that role though ie one of the 'two'. Doesn't have the positional nous needed to play there - unless Poch can improve it of course. Did you see how our shape fell apart in the second half against Toronto?

Personally I like him much more as one of the 'three' behind the forward...but its tricky as I'm not sure he's a true number ten.

I do think he's got great work rate which will impress Poch but lets see what he can do with him.

 

[worcestersauce]

I don't think it's strictly that Pochottino thinks Schneiderlin is better than our players but he does know that he is exactly what he wants, if you can get exactly what you want then why wouldn't you, if he can't get him then he will have to trust the players he has and he may very well find that they are just as perfect for him but he doesn't know that and he certainly didn't know that a month ago.
As for how good he is, well the Saints fans all thought he was their best last year.

 

[iluvsteffenfreund]

Nabil is going to be a very good player but is not ready to run our midfield yet... He can play when we are playing against lesser opposition but the two that stand out for me last year were the man city at home and Liverpool away games which totally bypassed him, he looked like a little boy and was not up to the job, on the same note games against palace and Southampton he was class. Not ready if we seriously want to be top 4 this year

 

[SEANSPURS1975]

Schneiderlin is an upgrade on Dembele. By far.

Disagree with this statement 100%. Whether Dembele can get and stay fully fit is one debate. A fully fit Dembele is better than Schneiderlin without doubt...

 

[St José Dominguez]

For me he definitely is...has that bit of everything. Schneiderlin and Bentaleb are more tenacious/gritty...and they're definitely more agile and mobile. They would cover more ground.

Capoue, although he can venture forward, primarily sits and looks to supply cutting edge passing from those deeper areas.

If you've watched Southampton plenty, and particularly MS, you should be drawing similar conclusions.

They all sit though. They are all primarily own half types of players who will look to control the game. I think people are elaborating a bit when it comes to MS getting forward. The best performances i saw from MS last season was when he did his job and allowed the Soton front 4 do their stuff. I think that is what we'd be looking from MS too, it's why if he's signed I'd be going against the tide suggesting he'd be paired with Capoue (Although i do think in certain games this could happen) and actually think he'd be sitting with five players looking to attack.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Is Schneiderlin an upgrade on Capoue or Dembele? No.
With Pochettino's coaching would love to see Capoue and Dembele in midfield. A fit Dembele walks into our team. Potentially these 2 could be something special...

Behave! A fit Dembele wouldn't walk into the team and we never see the fit Dembele anyway.

 

[haydsmith]

I haven't seen enough of MS to judge but primarily he needs to be able to a)take the ball under pressure and b)pass it forward quickly to be an upgrade, because literally none of the other CMs at the club other than occasionally Bentaleb can do that

 

[Mr Pink]

They all sit though. They are all primarily own half types of players who will look to control the game. I think people are elaborating a bit when it comes to MS getting forward. The best performances i saw from MS last season was when he did his job and allowed the Soton front 4 do their stuff. I think that is what we'd be looking from MS too, it's why if he's signed I'd be going against the tide suggesting he'd be paired with Capoue (Although i do think in certain games this could happen) and actually think he'd be sitting with five players looking to attack.

Disagree. Watched a lot of Southampton last season and he got forward to support/initiate attacks often enough. When you have two players sitting in this sort of set up you'll find one will roam a bit more than the other but has the nous to know when to do this - something he demonstrated exceptionally well last season.

 

[SEANSPURS1975]

Umm

Behave! A fit Dembele wouldn't walk into the team and we never see the fit Dembele anyway.

Umm. Whether we see a fit Dembele regularly is another debate.
When Dembele has been fully fit in the past he starts. Simple.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Umm


Umm. Whether we see a fit Dembele regularly is another debate.
When Dembele has been fully fit in the past he starts. Simple.

But it's not simple and it is pertinent to the debate, Dembele has a long term hip injury that he is refusing to have an operation on. If he's unwilling to get the problem dealt with then he's of no use to Spurs as he can't offer us what we signed him to do and now just plays a rather timid and boring game.

Schneiderlin is fit, injury free and has the confidence of our head coach, it should be a no brainer.

 

[Kaboul'sForehead]

This is the order in which I would put the players in question in the centre of the park based on last season's and pre-season's performances, which includes their respective injury concerns. Have only included the top 8 and tbh Holtby has been an outstanding workhorse appearing all over the pitch not just CM...but I digress.

Schneidelin > Capoue > Holtby > Bentaleb > Mason > Paulinho > Dembele > Sandro