Morgan Schneiderlin

[gazzeh]

Levy, Give Poch Schneiderlin, and most will be forgiven.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Not held to ransom but he wants a player he has worked with before and who he trusts can be the cog of the team. He's not asking levy to go out and by messi.

AVB wanted this player in Moutino but didn't get him. Poch is entitled to his "one player" who he wants. He should be allowed that.

I'm not saying I don't like schniederlin, I do, but this attitude to signings is bogus. We are a club and the coach is one factor. We need to only buy players that fit our medium/long term football and financial remit.

If Moutinho and schniederlin do then great, if they don't then we pass.


We don't hock the clubs future for players that fit a guys philosophy who is likely to be here less time than they are.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I'm actually happy to see how Stambouli works out, he seems like he has a lot to his game and unless we end up getting some sort of swap deal with Dross going the other way then I would rather use that 27 mil on other parts of the squad. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Morgan will bring a lot to the table and would greatly bolster our midfield but from the little I have seen of Stambo I would like to see how he does. We still have plenty of CM's

 

[TaoistMonkey]

I'm not saying I don't like schniederlin, I do, but this attitude to signings is bogus. We are a club and the coach is one factor. We need to only buy players that fit our medium/long term football and financial remit.

If Moutinho and schniederlin do then great, if they don't then we pass.


We don't hock the clubs future for players that fit a guys philosophy who is likely to be here less time than they are.

Why not? Are we not trying to build something here? Poch needs this signing. He believes in this player.

How many times are we going to make this mistake by not backing the manager.

 

[danielneeds]

I'm not saying I don't like schniederlin, I do, but this attitude to signings is bogus. We are a club and the coach is one factor. We need to only buy players that fit our medium/long term football and financial remit.

If Moutinho and schniederlin do then great, if they don't then we pass.


We don't hock the clubs future for players that fit a guys philosophy who is likely to be here less time than they are.

But isn't the point that we want someone to be here 5 years?

The idea that you can just give the manager X, Y and Z players and expect him to build a team is just too analytical, and what Levy overlooks sometimes, when he moves footballers around like playing drafts.

The art of building teams - as Rodgers preaches all the time - is as much about the person, the character as much as their skillset. If Pochettino feels Schneiderlin has the personality that he can count on in difficult situations, or when the pressure is on, it is so crucial to team building.

Of course it has to fit the economic realities the club is in, but sometimes you have to back the manager's choice.

 

[Mr Pink]

I'm not saying I don't like schniederlin, I do, but this attitude to signings is bogus. We are a club and the coach is one factor. We need to only buy players that fit our medium/long term football and financial remit.

If Moutinho and schniederlin do then great, if they don't then we pass.


We don't hock the clubs future for players that fit a guys philosophy who is likely to be here less time than they are.

So why were we spending 30 million on the likes of Willian then?

The problem is judgement, not the amount we're spending so much.

Not only do the targets have to fit our financial remit but they have to fit our footballing remit as well - ironically enough the two are connected.

This scatter gun approach to stock piling average to decent players to then keep getting rid of them is not without its faults.

This signing smacks of being a lot more significant than your average Spurs signing. We should be doing all we can to get Poch his man, no matter if his main remit is to improve what he has. He'll be able to do that better anyway with MS in the side and the team dynamic improving and everyone benefiting as a result.

 

[Maxtremist]

My only issue with us paying 25+ for MS (whilst I do really want him) is what knock on effects it may have to our other transfer dealing in the future.

In the same way that Torres and Carroll's transfers have had a knock on effect with the rest of the league and players costing more I just worry that we may have to spend more to get players if this happens.

 

[Oscar22]

I just don't see it happening. Too much politics and water under the bridge. I just think this is one of those deals hat never quite gets over the line.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

But isn't the point that we want someone to be here 5 years?

The idea that you can just give the manager X, Y and Z players and expect him to build a team is just too analytical, and what Levy overlooks sometimes, when he moves footballers around like playing drafts.

The art of building teams - as Rodgers preaches all the time - is as much about the person, the character as much as their skillset. If Pochettino feels Schneiderlin has the personality that he can count on in difficult situations, or when the pressure is on, it is so crucial to team building.

Of course it has to fit the economic realities the club is in, but sometimes you have to back the manager's choice.

Did Klop ever spend 25m on a single player ? Do Ajax ? Do Porto or Sevilla ? Yet these teams manage to assemble sides that can compete on a pitch with most.

So why were we spending 30 million on the likes of Willian then?

The problem is judgement, not the amount we're spending so much.

Not only do the targets have to fit our financial remit but they have to fit our footballing remit as well - ironically enough the two are connected.

This scatter gun approach to stock piling average to decent players to then keep getting rid of them is not without its faults.

This signing smacks of being a lot more significant than your average Spurs signing. We should be doing all we can to get Poch his man, no matter if his main remit is to improve what he has. He'll be able to do that better anyway with MS in the side and the team dynamic improving and everyone benefiting as a result.

For me, Willian, Moutinho and possibly MS are all signings worthy of making, of spending decentish money on. I agree with the judgement statement and the stock piling of average players stuff.

I just hate this line that @TaoistMonkey was rolling out about "if Poch wants him he should have him". That is never a simple truism for me.

Every time I hear it it winds me up.

 

[danielneeds]

Did Klop ever spend 25m on a single player ? Do Ajax ? Do Porto or Sevilla ? Yet these teams manage to assemble sides that can compete on a pitch with most.

Extremely different situations that all those clubs are in. They are pretty dominant in their leagues, and can hoover up talent. Porto, have the ownership thing going too.

 

[xtrac]

Looking forward to the Levy lovers take on this if it don't happen...which to be fare doesn't look good

 

[Vwbottom]

Unless this is all a big game to allow Southampton to get players in without paying a shed load more than they are worth this is not going to happen.

 

[Norvern Munkey]

Looking forward to the Levy lovers take on this if it don't happen...which to be fare doesn't look good

Seriously which bit of the phrase that soton keep spouting, ie "he is not for sale" are you having trouble with...... im no expert on football transfer activities unlike your good self, but to the uneducated, lets call it "layman", such as myself that seems like a really fucking catagoric statement for someone to make.

im not a levy lover, nor am I a levy hater either but it seems you are damning the bloke either way and will crow if he tries again and fails or chalks it up as a none winner and goes elsewhere.....

 

[xtrac]

Seriously which bit of the phrase that soton keep spouting, ie "he is not for sale" are you having trouble with...... im no expert on football transfer activities unlike your good self, but to the uneducated, lets call it "layman", such as myself that seems like a really fucking catagoric statement for someone to make.

im not a levy lover, nor am I a levy hater either but it seems you are damning the bloke either way and will crow if he tries again and fails or chalks it up as a none winner and goes elsewhere.....

Yep

 

[tototoner]

Schneiderlin is to Pochettino what Moutinho was to Villas-Boas.

Will those who work for Levy ever learn?

 

[tototoner]

Looking forward to the Levy lovers take on this if it don't happen...which to be fare doesn't look good

It wasn't happening the minute Southampton said on live radio he wasn't for sale

 

[St José Dominguez]

Delighted with the Stambouli signing. Think he's gonna very very good for our team. Personally think that kills the Schneiderlin deal dead, unless Dembele or Bentaleb are leaving.

 

[xtrac]

It wasn't happening the minute Southampton said on live radio he wasn't for sale

I agree we should of tried earlier in the window

 

[dwaynedibley]

Seriously which bit of the phrase that soton keep spouting, ie "he is not for sale" are you having trouble with...... im no expert on football transfer activities unlike your good self, but to the uneducated, lets call it "layman", such as myself that seems like a really fucking catagoric statement for someone to make.

im not a levy lover, nor am I a levy hater either but it seems you are damning the bloke either way and will crow if he tries again and fails or chalks it up as a none winner and goes elsewhere.....

I agree and we've wasted and are continuing to waste our time on this transfer when there is NO FUCKING CHANCE of it happening!

 

[Oscar22]

This thread can surely die a death now? its not happening!