Most over-rated player?

[stemark44]

On the subject of under-rated i'd have to mention Iniesta. Not that he isn't rated highly, and he's rated very highly amongst the Barca fans. But he is right up there with the best midfielders in the world. Since the Euros, he has to be one of the most in form players in the world right now. And he can play anywhere in midfield.

I have to say that Iniesta has to be one of the worlds most under-rated players.
I think he is absolutely sensational and so consistent!
Ibrahimovich would be my no 1 over-rated player and after him,probably Carlos Tevez.

 

[paul_1979yid]

Not reading through the 9 pages so not sure if its been said but Big Fat Frank Lampard is my shout

 

[roosh]

I was chatting with a few friends in the pub and we got onto the most over-rated players. The responses were pretty spectacular and it seemed no English player was rated highly by everyone in the room. Everyones suggestions of who is over-rated seemed to be jumped all over by everyone else with "what are you talking he's absolute quality" just for that person to come out with just as wild a suggestion.

From recent times I came out with:

Gerrard - very good player but seems to get rated as highly as the true greats. His passing is often sloppy and despite scoring 30 yard crackers (my thought to why we rate him so highly much like Matt Taylor was rated for a while after a couple of long range goals) I simply don't rate his technical ability as very good whatsoever. Can't remember him having a good game for England since the Germany 5-1 win and once again that was based mostly on a speculative long range goal.

Gareth Barry - simply the flavour of the month. Did nothing of note for Villa for years. Lampard and Gerrard weren't working and with Carrick and Hargreaves out Ginger Steve had little option but to play Barry. As a better foil for Stevie G than Fat Frank the country went wild for the Aston Villa midfielder. Shame that as soon as we played good opposition in Croatia and Russia he exposed as average and we were knocked out (not blaming Barry for the defeats). The few times I've seen Villa play recently it seems Reo-Coker is their real diamond in the rough.

So I know most will jump all over me with the Steven Gerrard claim but anyone going to come out with an opinion on a player you think is over-rated that the rest of the world seems to think is world class?

mate of mine argues the very same thing. Hes a gooner, god forgive him, but knows his stuff. He always says that Gerrard is way over rated bcos he never really bosses a game in the way that the Keanes and the Vieras did. He pops up with wonder goals that give him the headlines, which lead to him being over rated.

 

[General Levy]

mate of mine argues the very same thing. Hes a gooner, god forgive him, but knows his stuff. He always says that Gerrard is way over rated bcos he never really bosses a game in the way that the Keanes and the Vieras did. He pops up with wonder goals that give him the headlines, which lead to him being over rated.

Firstly, Gerrard will be classed as one of the all time great English players' by most. As Pleat said: "In my lifetime, no player is as influential as Steven Gerrard is for Liverpool".

secondly, the above in bold is just LOL. Keane and Vieira are both DCM's, where as Gerrard is a CM, RCM and ACM. So comparing him to Keane and Vieira is like comparing Cafu to Baresi and Beckenbauer!

Gareth Barry is a solid top flight footballer. I personally do not rate him, but more importantly people with more football knowledge than me do.

 

[joey.leone]

For instance, Messi is the best player in the world IMO, because he gives his all in every match, and yes, I have seen him play well against big teams, because I support Barca in La Liga. Kaka is another player who IMO is a world class player. Both these players are true professionals, they dont dive, or cheat, you never see them moan, they dont give out.
Ronaldo on the other hand is a cheat, who dives(you've all seen it) and moans at the referee.

im sure Messi replicated the hand of god in a la liga match a few years back, if that is not cheating, i dont know what is.

Gerrard is not overrated, never. he was having alot of fun against us on saturday, could have scored a few. to those who say he doesnt have good technique either, his chip from a tight angle after gomes's mistake wasnt bad was it?

if Gerrard was a spurs player, he would be seen as a god.

 

[dontcallme]

im sure Messi replicated the hand of god in a la liga match a few years back, if that is not cheating, i dont know what is.

Gerrard is not overrated, never. he was having alot of fun against us on saturday, could have scored a few. to those who say he doesnt have good technique either, his chip from a tight angle after gomes's mistake wasnt bad was it?

if Gerrard was a spurs player, he would be seen as a god.

Sure but the point isn't about whether I'd want Gerrard at Spurs or not. I've heard him described as the perfect player, someone without flaws on many occasions. When in reality he is the creator in the least creative midfield in the top four with a much worse goal scoring record for Liverpool than Lampard has for Chelsea. One of Englands best for sure but not as talented as Gazza, Scholes or Beckham.

 

[Montasura]

It takes you to sit back, think, and understand the exact meaning of the question here to realise that quite a few posters don't get it.

It's not a question of whether a player is crapor not but just whether they are underrated which ultimately depends on how highly rated or regarded they are/were in the first place.

With this in mind one name continually tops my list.....David Beckham.

I'm not going to begin debating whether he was crap or not (although personally I have never rated him particularly highly). He was, however, rated as one of the best footballers in the world during his peak. No doubt he was great at what he did with a dead ball and he could certainly punt in a decent cross from time to time. However, that was about it. As an all round footballer he just didn't cut it for me and, IMO, was well below what many, many people "rated" him at.

Another choice for me would be Theo Walcott. Given the fee paid to bring him to Arsenal and the hype that surrounded the transfer. Add to that his incredible call up to the world cup. That makes him incredibly underrated regardless of how good he turns out to be.

As for the Gerrard vs. Messi debate, I will choose not to get involved other than to say that Gerrard is a fantastic player, IMO, and deserves his reputation as one of the best midfielders and leaders in football at the moment.

Don't forget, the question is not about how good they are, just whether they are underrated or not.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Alan Shearer. Not at his peak though; at his peak he was one of the most deadly snipers the prem's seen but, coming to the last three or four years, he had lost a few yards of pace, couldn't get the spring in his jump and didn't have the hair trigger that he used to call a leg so he started padding out his game by playing dirty and using his reputation as a legend to get away with it.

By the time he retired he was little more than a bruiser who got away with absolute murder sometimes and all the pundits were singing his name, saying shit like he's a tough forward of the old school - absolute bollocks, he was a thug.

 

[tony0379]

rooney ive never rated him

 

[Mattspur]

It takes you to sit back, think, and understand the exact meaning of the question here to realise that quite a few posters don't get it.

It's not a question of whether a player is crapor not but just whether they are underrated which ultimately depends on how highly rated or regarded they are/were in the first place.

With this in mind one name continually tops my list.....David Beckham.

I'm not going to begin debating whether he was crap or not (although personally I have never rated him particularly highly). He was, however, rated as one of the best footballers in the world during his peak. No doubt he was great at what he did with a dead ball and he could certainly punt in a decent cross from time to time. However, that was about it. As an all round footballer he just didn't cut it for me and, IMO, was well below what many, many people "rated" him at.

Another choice for me would be Theo Walcott. Given the fee paid to bring him to Arsenal and the hype that surrounded the transfer. Add to that his incredible call up to the world cup. That makes him incredibly underrated regardless of how good he turns out to be.

As for the Gerrard vs. Messi debate, I will choose not to get involved other than to say that Gerrard is a fantastic player, IMO, and deserves his reputation as one of the best midfielders and leaders in football at the moment.

Don't forget, the question is not about how good they are, just whether they are underrated or not.

Thanks for pointing that out, but I think you mean Over-rated. As it says in the title.:shrug:

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Take your pick from most English hyped up players. Gerrard is dynamic and scores great goals ocassionally but can't pass it 10 yards without wacking it at the recipient sometimes. Rooney when interchanging with Ronaldo and Tevez is great but put him in an England shirt and he looks decididly average. Same Lampard. Truth is when played in teams full of far superior international players the english players contribute something different which compliments but as stand alone players they are vastly over rated. Saying Terry is world class is riduculous. He is a great leader but technically he is just an average CB.

If you want my most vastly over rated international player it would be Deco. Very skillfull and sometimes will turn a game with one moment of brilliance. But 9 times out of ten will waste possession at the vital time. He has the ability to be a Zidane but is no where near as clever in terms of converting ability to productivity.

Don't confuse this with me saying Deco is shit. IMO he just flatters to deceive more than any player I can think of at the moment. Therefore gets over rated.

Did I win the prize then ?

 

[hellava_tough]

Thierry Henry

A good player no doubt, but always - without fail - went missing in big games. He'd absolutely murder shite defences, but didn't seem to be able to handle the pressure against the big boys

 

[donny1013]

Hmmmmmmm don't quite agree with the Thierry Henry one. Scored plenty against Man Utd over the years for Woolwich, scored against Real Madrid in the Bernabeu for both Woolwich in the CL and Barca in La Liga and scored an amazing solo effort for the scum against Inter in the San Siro in the CL.

 

[barry]

Hmmmmmmm don't quite agree with the Thierry Henry one. Scored plenty against Man Utd over the years for Woolwich, scored against Real Madrid in the Bernabeu for both Woolwich in the CL and Barca in La Liga and scored an amazing solo effort for the scum against Inter in the San Siro in the CL.

I've never said this before, and I won't again but Henry is, imo, the best player to ever grace the Premiership. Better than Ronaldo imo, who is the epitome of a flat track bully.

 

[Green Valley]

Thierry Henry

A good player no doubt, but always - without fail - went missing in big games. He'd absolutely murder shite defences, but didn't seem to be able to handle the pressure against the big boys

No way can you call him overrated. imo He was absolutely amazing and is easily one of the all time great players. He isn't in the Pele, Maradona, Cruff, Zidane, C Ronaldo group of top players but he was definitely imo in the league below them with Van Basten, Gullit and co.

 

[spursandbarca]

Puyol - he's just a shite defender, and no idea how he's been at Barca for so long, let alone skipper.

Rooney - he's a thug who's a half decent footballer, nowhere near as good as everyone likes to think; so tactically naive that he can't play in any position without being out of position all the time, unbalances the England side, needs to be in the Man Utd. side who can compensate for him.

Terry - Good in the air.

Ashley Cole - hasn't been good since he left Arsenal, was almost happy to see that backpass yesterday.

And agree with the Gerrard sentiment, have always said it, but none of my friends agree. He tends to come up with the goods for Liverpool when they need it, but he's not on the same technical level as people say he is.

are you kidding me with Puyol? he reads the game well, is a leader beyond belief. can play cb, rb and lb. The guy is my idol.

 

[spursandbarca]

overated


raul. when has he scored 20 goals even in the last 10 years.


paul scholes. cant tackle, has no pace, doesnt score 10+ goals a season ever.


theo walnutt. pace thats it. cant cross always injured.

almunia. spains number 10.

 

[Vecellio]

There is so much bullshit in this thread it's untrue: 'C Ronaldo is up there with Pele and Maradona'. 'Messi can't pass or shoot'. 'Gerrard would be better than the barca mids if put in there.'

Christ. I can't take it.

 

[Coyboy]

Did I win the prize then ?

For silliest post ever? Not I think that's stuck somewhere in the Harry Effect thread.

 

[Coyboy]

overated


raul. when has he scored 20 goals even in the last 10 years.


paul scholes. cant tackle, has no pace, doesnt score 10+ goals a season ever.


theo walnutt. pace thats it. cant cross always injured.

almunia. spains number 10.

Raul scored over twenty last year and the year before, and before that 2002-03 if you must ask. But you could have found that out for yourself.

Paul Scholes is a poor tackler and has no pace and is therefore over-rated? Hm, that makes sense. He is also one of the most technically gifted midfielders in this country but don't let that stop your prejudice.

Ashley Cole? Rooney? This thread should be named 'players I don't really like that some guy in a pub called world class'.