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Mourinho admits to ‘wrong decisions’ on Bale and Alli as boss leaves door open for ‘good quality’ players

mawspurs

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Jose Mourinho admits he has made “wrong decisions” with Gareth Bale and Dele Alli this season, with the Tottenham boss eager to have as many “good quality” players at his disposal as possible.

Source: Goal
 

dagraham

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Interesting...

I’m starting to get the vibe that Jose has been informed that he’s on borrowed time unless he pulls back on his usual motivation methods with players and also the negative tactics.

Now whether that is the right or wrong thing to do ( seeing as it’s not the way he likes to manage) and whether it will actually make things worse in the long run I don’t know, but that’s what seems to be happening to me.
 

glacierSpurs

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This is definitely a positive outcome and took courage from him to admit mistakes. Not sure what some on hind sight will say though.
 

CrazyHeart

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This is definitely a positive outcome and took courage from him to admit mistakes. Not sure what some on hind sight will say though.

Hopefully this'll silence those who always charge Jose with never accepting responsibility and attributing blame to everyone else. Oh what am I thinking? This is the SC forum...
 

jonnyrotten

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Hopefully this'll silence those who always charge Jose with never accepting responsibility and attributing blame to everyone else. Oh what am I thinking? This is the SC forum...
No this is very welcome, actually these comments give me more confidence for spurs over the next few weeks.
 

rupsmith

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I’m starting to get the vibe that Jose has been informed that he’s on borrowed time unless he pulls back on his usual motivation methods with players and also the negative tactics.

Now whether that is the right or wrong thing to do ( seeing as it’s not the way he likes to manage) and whether it will actually make things worse in the long run I don’t know, but that’s what seems to be happening to me.

I'm sorry but I don't agree. I just don't see Jose's job under threat. I don't see Levy sacking one of the most successful managers in history (expensive as well) half way through his first full season. If there was another top manager hungry to manage Spurs with successful premier league experience AND Jose was alienating the entire squad (and not just a couple of talented non-performers who probably need a kick up the backside anyway) - both of which I don't see - then maybe; but Levy is not some uninformed idiot.

Considering the dross we have in our squad Jose has done an ok job. What is he supposed to do when the referee gives away penalties for free, when Hugo ushers the ball into the back of our net, when Davidson ties his feet in knots. When he tries to address that lack of quality in defense by playing with a deep defense and counter attacking at pace he is accused of being "too negative" and applying tactics that are not "Spurs" in style. Last season considering the injuries and Covid he did well. This season until December people were talking of us challenging for the title. Yes we have fallen away, but frankly no team has played well this season except Man City and maybe Leicester and West Ham. People are actually talking about sacking Jurgen Klopp for fcks sake. Frank lost his job. United are dross. Arsenal are mid-table. We put together a run of 4 - 5 wins we will be up there. This season is not over yet. And I would give him another season at least. Jurgen Klopp got a couple of seasons to make Liverpool a very successful team. Why shouldn't Jose Mourinho?
 

cider spurs

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Well, the onus is on Bale to push himself and make an impact during games.

But Jose also has to stick to his word and give the likes of Dele and Bale a fair crack if they are showing commitment to the cause.

I thought Dele has come on a few times this season, and certainly played no worse than those selected around him, but was overlooked next fixture.

Hopefully all parties concerned will be singing from the same hymn sheet in the not to distant future.
 

GutBucket

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Different from his time at Utd when he didn't want to compromise on Pogba, Shaw, Lindelof etc.
 

Metalhead

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Different from his time at Utd when he didn't want to compromise on Pogba, Shaw, Lindelof etc.
Definitely. He knew the score with available funds and so he realises that he'll need to be cannier with what he has available.
 

dontcallme

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An interesting insight.

It doesn't surprise me that managers want their players to work hard and follow instructions. Unfortunately we are in a world of players with insane wealth and huge egos. Some won't respond to a manager pushing them to be the ultimate professional.

Ndombele has responded well to Mourinho but so far Bale and Alli aren't performing.

Without Bale and Alli we are being shown to have a lack of quality so we need to get them playing. If that involves the arm around the shoulder and stroking their egos then so be it.
 

dagraham

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I'm sorry but I don't agree. I just don't see Jose's job under threat. I don't see Levy sacking one of the most successful managers in history (expensive as well) half way through his first full season. If there was another top manager hungry to manage Spurs with successful premier league experience AND Jose was alienating the entire squad (and not just a couple of talented non-performers who probably need a kick up the backside anyway) - both of which I don't see - then maybe; but Levy is not some uninformed idiot.

Considering the dross we have in our squad Jose has done an ok job. What is he supposed to do when the referee gives away penalties for free, when Hugo ushers the ball into the back of our net, when Davidson ties his feet in knots. When he tries to address that lack of quality in defense by playing with a deep defense and counter attacking at pace he is accused of being "too negative" and applying tactics that are not "Spurs" in style. Last season considering the injuries and Covid he did well. This season until December people were talking of us challenging for the title. Yes we have fallen away, but frankly no team has played well this season except Man City and maybe Leicester and West Ham. People are actually talking about sacking Jurgen Klopp for fcks sake. Frank lost his job. United are dross. Arsenal are mid-table. We put together a run of 4 - 5 wins we will be up there. This season is not over yet. And I would give him another season at least. Jurgen Klopp got a couple of seasons to make Liverpool a very successful team. Why shouldn't Jose Mourinho?

I don’t disagree with some of that and I’m not one of the “Jose out now” brigade, but I just have that feeling based on a few of the things he’s saying and particularly how we lined up at the weekend.

Seems almost as if he’s trying to show he can adapt to criticism, but I’m cynical on whether that has come from within or from external pressures.
 

Trix

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I don’t disagree with some of that and I’m not one of the “Jose out now” brigade, but I just have that feeling based on a few of the things he’s saying and particularly how we lined up at the weekend.

Seems almost as if he’s trying to show he can adapt to criticism, but I’m cynical on whether that has come from within or from external pressures.
I don't think it matters where it's come from. He's never backed down or admitted he was wrong before. It's good news regardless of incentive imo.
 

UbeAstard

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I don’t disagree with some of that and I’m not one of the “Jose out now” brigade, but I just have that feeling based on a few of the things he’s saying and particularly how we lined up at the weekend.

Seems almost as if he’s trying to show he can adapt to criticism, but I’m cynical on whether that has come from within or from external pressures.

Its been about a week now since he said we need Ali back and I had it in mind there is some charm offensive. Maybe he's connected some of what is going on with his previous 2 jobs. When the results are going fine he has no need to look at what he is doing but since they arent.... Ive seen some people moaning about the last 2 bad results but I think there has been some improvement preformance wise the last 3 games. I wouldnt like to see us going back to the sitting deep and letting the other team do what they want with the ball.
 
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Trix

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Time will tell
Of course. I can't speak for all the players but he's had a fair discussion with Bale very recently, which they both got their concerns out in the open. From what I'm told GB came out of it far more positive than he went in.

He doesn't want to return to Madrid and now knows exactly what Jose needs/expects of him. So that's at least Dele, Serge and Bale that have seen a side to Jose nobody thought existed.

Maybe it won't work or won't last. Thing is it's a change of tact, because whatever was happening before wasn't working.

All we've heard since day one from the nay sayers, is "same old Jose" and "he'll never change". Well they are wrong it's not the same guy that never took responsibility, and that is the good news imo.
 
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