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prawnsandwich

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I don't see Everton or Newcastle or Southampton or West Ham as our long term "rivals"
We are a long term top 5 club pushing to be top 4. AVB's conceit and stubbornness cost us at least top 5 last season.
Dembele is an upper mid table player and not good enough for us.
 

Grapo2001

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Because you cannot sell to rivals unless their valuation is way above what we believe is fair value. Losing out on a couple of mil is worth much more than strengthening a competitor.

If we want to sell because he isn't up to scratch then how is that strengthening a rival?
 

Shea

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I think he'd do very well in Italy

I wonder if Roma will be interested what with the Baldini link

I could see them having to sell someone like Pjanic or Strootman soon and Dembele would do well for them I think

Di Rossi is getting old but they do still have Keita too so unless they are selling one of the above too they probably won't want Dembele, I could certainly see Pjanic and or Strootman wanting a move to bigger things soon though
 

vicbob

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I don't see Everton or Newcastle or Southampton or West Ham as our long term "rivals"
We are a long term top 5 club pushing to be top 4. AVB's conceit and stubbornness cost us at least top 5 last season.
Dembele is an upper mid table player and not good enough for us.

Unfortunately they are all our rivals and will be for some time. One outing in the CL does not mean we are in any different position than the teams around us. We are in the chasing pack and should not be strengthening those around us, thinking any different is just arrogant
 

prawnsandwich

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Unfortunately they are all our rivals and will be for some time. One outing in the CL does not mean we are in any different position than the teams around us. We are in the chasing pack and should not be strengthening those around us, thinking any different is just arrogant
The last 5 seasons we finished 4,5,4,5,6 so what you said is factually incorrect. Stating facts is not arrogant.
 

vicbob

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The last 5 seasons we finished 4,5,4,5,6 so what you said is factually incorrect. Stating facts is not arrogant.
But not recognising where we are now and where we will be for at least the short term is.
They are our rivals FACT
 

vicbob

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They are not our long term rivals as I stated in my original post.

I wish I lived on your planet, as Chelsea, City, the scum and Utd are leagues ahead in terms of squad and resources from us at the moment. We are in a group of teams chasing them and that very definitely includes Everton, Liverpool and quite a few others.
Yes the tables a bit weird at the moment, but long term, which is what you keep going on about, those 4 are way ahead.
 

Syn_13

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Martinez like his midfielders releasing the ball quickly. He wouldn't go for Dembele.
 

prawnsandwich

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I wish I lived on your planet, as Chelsea, City, the scum and Utd are leagues ahead in terms of squad and resources from us at the moment. We are in a group of teams chasing them and that very definitely includes Everton, Liverpool and quite a few others.
Yes the tables a bit weird at the moment, but long term, which is what you keep going on about, those 4 are way ahead.
You seem incapable of understanding the English language. We are a regular top 5 side and Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham and Everton aren't.
 

vicbob

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Oh sorry, forgot we were talking of the well known top "5". Maybe we could narrow it down to the top "3" London clubs.
However you narrow down the criteria, at present, Everton, Southampton etc are more our rivals than City, Chelsea and arsenal.
 

HoltbiusMac

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The last 5 seasons we finished 4,5,4,5,6 so what you said is factually incorrect. Stating facts is not arrogant.

And they've finished 8 ,7, 7, 6, 5. Certainly sounds like a team who we are in competition with especially considering theirs looks like an upward trend and ours a downward one.
 
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