New Stadium Details And Discussions

[longtimespur]

Was meant to be January/early February start and take 12 weeks so I’m guessing when work does start it’s not going to be too obvious that they’re off and running.

I thought it was 2-3 weeks to lift it

 

[Westmorland]

I thought it was 2-3 weeks to lift it

It was stated as 3 weeks. Going up jan/feb. If it’s 12 weeks we will be going back to Wembley!!

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Affordable housing and council housing are very different things and very different costs to rent.

It is common in these cases to provide relocated council tenants with guarantees that their new accommodation will have the same kind of rent as their previous tenancy. For as long as they remain tenants of that local authority.

 

[Lilbaz]

It is common in these cases to provide relocated council tenants with guarantees that their new accommodation will have the same kind of rent as their previous tenancy. For as long as they remain tenants of that local authority.

So who pays the difference? The council?
Also it does nothing to alleviate the waiting list for those who waiting for a home. As i said we have 100,000 children homeless in this country how does giving away council land to private developers help this?

Anyway probably better to leave it as we are derailing the thread.

 

[spursfan77]

I thought it was 2-3 weeks to lift it

Yeah I think so. I didn't think it was meant to be completely up until the end of February or start of March.That seems a bit more realistic.

 

[spursfan77]

High road west development (ie our ‘Wembley way’ is separate from the HDV -

Why is High Road West not included part of the Haringey Development Vehicle (HDV)?

We are committed to finding the right investment and high quality development for each development site across the borough.

It was decided that High Road West should be delivered independently of the HDV, because it was far more advanced than the other regeneration sites identified for inclusion within the HDV. After three years of consultation with the community the scheme had a masterplan, a detailed set of objectives and a clear mandate, as such, we were keen to accelerate delivery.

Lendlease is anticipated to be on site in 2018/19 and including the scheme in the HDV may have affected the pace of delivery. The site had also been earmarked for Housing Zone funding and negotiations were under way with the GLA to secure this.

Consequently, the scheme was in a very different stage than the other sites included within the HDV and it was decided the scheme should be delivered independently.

Also,

Not really a surprise but I thought I would pass on - Edmonton on COYS:

Lots of issues with Haringey Development Vehicle, don't think the Club is a particular fan of the plans. What I do know is that some of the momentum lot have a history of fighting the Club and the politics are seen as a big risk. Yet another reason the finish the stadium asap.

 

[Dougal]

I thought it was 2-3 weeks to lift it

I don't think they're lifting a finished roof. Maybe 2-3 weeks to lift the structure and another 9 to add panels and finish it?

 

[longtimespur]

I don't think they're lifting a finished roof. Maybe 2-3 weeks to lift the structure and another 9 to add panels and finish it?

Ok, thanks, I can understand that but all I've ever seen is the timescale for the lift.

 

[Dougal]

Ok, thanks, I can understand that but all I've ever seen is the timescale for the lift.

I'm trying to find the link towards the end of last year but no joy. May have been a mix up as it was also meant to take 12 weeks for the retractable pitch.

 

[Dougal]

The roof won't be up this November. In the last meeting between Club and THST, Levy responded in answer to a question, that a good indicator if the stadium is on time is that of the roof going on in January or February and is to take about 12 weeks to complete.

As an aside the construction of the retractable pitch is due to commence in October and also take 12 weeks to complete (don't know if that includes the actual grass or just the steel tray dollies

It comes from the THST meeting with Levy.

 

[spursfan77]

I'm trying to find the link towards the end of last year but no joy. May have been a mix up as it was also meant to take 12 weeks for the retractable pitch.

Didn't Levy give the timescale in the fans forum thing?

I could swear he said end of February

 

[Dougal]

Didn't Levy give the timescale in the fans forum thing?

I could swear he said end of February

http://www.thstofficial.com/thst-news/thfcthst-board-to-board-meeting-2-may-2017-report

Late January/early February.

3. Northumberland Development Project

• KL asked for an outline of the build schedule for the stadium from here on in. It was obviously on time right now, considering the Wembley deal had been signed, but what should fans look out for over the coming months as signals it’s still on course? DL said that the roof going on at the end of January/ early February 2018 would be a big indicator

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

So who pays the difference? The council?
Also it does nothing to alleviate the waiting list for those who waiting for a home. As i said we have 100,000 children homeless in this country how does giving away council land to private developers help this?

Anyway probably better to leave it as we are derailing the thread.

It’s a big important subject but yes, this isn’t the thread for it.

 

[DanielCHillier]

http://www.thstofficial.com/thst-news/thfcthst-board-to-board-meeting-2-may-2017-report

Late January/early February.

3. Northumberland Development Project

• KL asked for an outline of the build schedule for the stadium from here on in. It was obviously on time right now, considering the Wembley deal had been signed, but what should fans look out for over the coming months as signals it’s still on course? DL said that the roof going on at the end of January/ early February 2018 would be a big indicator

Still looks on course for the first early February (first/second week) .

 

[Hengy1]

Wish they’d sort out the south stand camera.

Looks like more steel going up around south stand

 

[Roynie]

They certainly seem to be cracking on with the trusses (?) and metalwork towards, and over, the south stand.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

So who pays the difference? The council?
Also it does nothing to alleviate the waiting list for those who waiting for a home. As i said we have 100,000 children homeless in this country how does giving away council land to private developers help this?

Anyway probably better to leave it as we are derailing the thread.

There's no "difference" to pay, it doesn't work like that. When I was doing financial appraisals of regeneration schemes in the '90s and '00s, we would build in assumptions about how many tenants would have to be rehoused and make sure that the financial model accounted for the lower rental income on the appropriate percentage of flats or houses. That would eventually affect how much the housing association was able to pay for the land, and/or how many new units of private and affordable housing had to be developed to make the whole scheme viable.

For a housing association or a council that owns 5,000-20,000 homes, it isn't going to be a deal-breaker to have rents on (say) 50 of them that are 25% lower than others on the same estate.

Part of the reason behind regeneration schemes is to provide more affordable homes (which isn't working anymore, for reasons I posted at length a few pages back), but at least as important to the councils is to replace homes that are substandard, hugely expensive to maintain or situated in estates that have major social problems.

 

[Hengy1]

Worth noting that Graham Roberts tweeted saying he’s wrong

 

[Lilbaz]

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Worth noting that Graham Roberts tweeted saying he’s wrong

Who the fuck is richard cracknel?

Sounds like bullshit as that would mean two stands closed.

 

[mark87]

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Worth noting that Graham Roberts tweeted saying he’s wrong

Highly doubt NFL would agree to having a game there in October at 30-35k capacity.