New Stadium Details And Discussions

[THFCSPURS19]

Exactly what I was asking. There hopefully is flexibility in what is this agreement to what may and may not fall within the local constraints.

Yep. If we play a Barcelona or Real Madrid, I'd love it we could play in a fully open Wembley - I'd be interested to see how many fans we could get to attend.

 

[Nigel Spinal]

The heritage groups have already announced they will not be asking for a judicial review.

Abramovich could still fund one of the loonies to though

 

[Lighty64]

Finally....A proper view in the Olympic stadium without carefully selected angles or seats. Good luck with that lads! The new Delle Alpi.

due to the lack of rent they are paying, they might supply the fans with binoculars and microphones

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Finally....A proper view in the Olympic stadium without carefully selected angles or seats. Good luck with that lads! The new Delle Alpi.

Like said, it looks like a stadium being prepared for Mexico '86, like something through time.

There is something i do wonder about - acoustics. This wasn't built with any requirement for the crowd to sound good, it was there to be sat in and watch athletics. There was no home and away either. Modern stadiums that are used for football or rugby are constructed differently and i'm not convinced that this wide open, thin framed structure is going to sound any louder than playing over a park that backs on to a primary school.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

Like said, it looks like a stadium being prepared for Mexico '86, like something through time.

There is something i do wonder about - acoustics. This wasn't built with any requirement for the crowd to sound good, it was there to be sat in and watch athletics. There was no home and away either. Modern stadiums that are used for football or rugby are constructed differently and i'm not convinced that this wide open, thin framed structure is going to sound any louder than playing over a park that backs on to a primary school.

I thought I read somewhere that they have invested in a huge sound system to ramp up the noise and reduce the high pitch (kids and ladies) to pump out crowd noise. Perhaps the should visit The Lane for their recordings

 

[Spursidol]

Exactly what I was asking. There hopefully is flexibility in what is this agreement to what may and may not fall within the local constraints.

Not quite.

The constraint on Wembley is for 'x' number of major events - 37 or whatever the actual number is - and that probably cannot be varied due to local (to Wembley) opposition.

The article says that if we are drawn against a major club, that Spurs deal with Wembley would allow Spurs to have that match counted as a major event and therefore allow us 90,000 capacity.

However as Wembley have a limited number of major events which they usually sell out without Spurs being there, my guess would be that DL has twisted their arm such that if we are drawn again a short list of say Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich etc (probably the shortlist only being say 6 major clubs or less) being that maybe only one of those ties (ie that one match) will be a 90,000 seater, It might be 2 matches against major clubs we can have 90,000, but doubt its any more purely because Wembley have so many other major events to fit in.

However even having the limited capacity of 50,000 is more than we have at WHL, so we will already be better off, and if we do get a match against RM or Barca, then 90,000 would be fantastic.

 

[Spursidol]

Finally....A proper view in the Olympic stadium without carefully selected angles or seats. Good luck with that lads! The new Delle Alpi.

Did you know you will be able to buy a pair of binoculars at Olympic Stadium to watch matches ?

And TV cameras may need to use the equivalent of the Jodrell Bank radio telescope to screen matches !

 

[Spursidol]

Yep. If we play a Barcelona or Real Madrid, I'd love it we could play in a fully open Wembley - I'd be interested to see how many fans we could get to attend.

Hmm, 90,000 attendance doesn't necessarily mean all Spurs fans though

Wembley sold various seat packages to fund the construction under the name of 'Club Wembley' and I believe that many of those have the right to buy tickets for whatever event is held there in preference to anyone else. Not sure on exact numbers but it might well be 20,000 or so of the seats operate that way.

 

[Gbspurs]

Tottenham Hotspur are expected to announce today that they will play their Champions League matches at Wembley next season and use the national stadium as a temporary home while White Hart Lane is rebuilt in the following campaign.

The overall deal could be worth more than £25 million to the FA if Tottenham progress beyond the group stage of Europe’s leading club competition next season.

There is nothing in the contract to prevent Chelsea from also using the venue in 2017-18, but the west London club may not be ready to redevelop their ground in time as they may only receive planning permission for their proposed redevelopment of Stamford Bridge this summer.

Tottenham will use Wembley for Champions League games next season as about 4,000 seats will be removed from a corner of White Hart Lane this summer to help the building work that has started on their new stadium, adjacent to their present home. The club will be limited to playing in front of 50,800 people at Wembley because of local planning constraints, but the deal includes the potential for them to use the full 90,000 capacity should they be drawn against a big European team.

Although Tottenham expect to need to leave their home for one season, there is also understood to be a contingency plan agreed with the FA should their builders overrun and the club need to use Wembley for a longer period.

Spurs will pay £20 million to use the stadium for the 2017-18 campaign, but the governing body may have to bear some of the operational costs.

Tottenham plan to fund their new stadium using a combination of a loan and commercial income. They have agreed a £25 million-a-year deal with Nike to become their shirt manu- facturer from 2017 and are aiming to receive the same sum per season from naming rights of their new ground.

Mauricio Pochettino, the Tottenham manager, has admitted that his financial muscle in the transfer market will be squeezed as a result of the redevelopment and would prefer that the club use spare money to tie down his senior players to better deals.

Pochettino wants to sign only a few players and is expected to lodge an offer for Michy Batshuayi after watching the Marseilles striker play in the French Cup final on Saturday. Batshuayi has scored 17 and made six other league goals this season and is likely to cost upwards of £25 million. His transfer could be partly funded by Tottenham offloading Nacer Chadli, Batshuayi’s Belgium team-mate, who has two years left on his deal. Chadli was mainly used as a substitute at the end of the season and took the blame for a mistake that led to a 1-0 defeat by West Ham United at Upton Park in March.

So we are paying the FA £20m for a handful of games and West Ham are paying £2m a season for their stadium? Seems fair.

 

[Hoopspur]

Not quite.

The constraint on Wembley is for 'x' number of major events - 37 or whatever the actual number is - and that probably cannot be varied due to local (to Wembley) opposition.

The article says that if we are drawn against a major club, that Spurs deal with Wembley would allow Spurs to have that match counted as a major event and therefore allow us 90,000 capacity.

However as Wembley have a limited number of major events which they usually sell out without Spurs being there, my guess would be that DL has twisted their arm such that if we are drawn again a short list of say Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich etc (probably the shortlist only being say 6 major clubs or less) being that maybe only one of those ties (ie that one match) will be a 90,000 seater, It might be 2 matches against major clubs we can have 90,000, but doubt its any more purely because Wembley have so many other major events to fit in.

However even having the limited capacity of 50,000 is more than we have at WHL, so we will already be better off, and if we do get a match against RM or Barca, then 90,000 would be fantastic.

I have to say this is what I was saying earlier. If they can only have 37(?) events at Wembley is there enough flexibility within their schedule to have Spurs v Barca as one and one of the lessor events elsewhere?

 

[Dougal]

Finally....A proper view in the Olympic stadium without carefully selected angles or seats. Good luck with that lads! The new Delle Alpi.

It'll almost be like you're actually there!

 

[Spursidol]

I have to say this is what I was saying earlier. If they can only have 37(?) events at Wembley is there enough flexibility within their schedule to have Spurs v Barca as one and one of the lessor events elsewhere?

I would guess one only (ie a Spurs v Barca) - purely because Wembley has so many 'major events' already scheduled.

Two would be fantastic, but quite probably unlikely.

The second might be dependent upon DL twisting the FA's arm to take England to another venue (eg Old Trafford) for an England match against lesser opposition to take one major event away from Wembley and create space for a Spurs match .

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I thought I read somewhere that they have invested in a huge sound system to ramp up the noise and reduce the high pitch (kids and ladies) to pump out crowd noise. Perhaps the should visit The Lane for their recordings

So they're installing the stadium equivalent of them hilarious dump valve simulators that the budget ricers wire up to their stereo?

amazing.

 

[Spursidol]

It'll almost be like you're actually there!

Well half a mile from 'There' - if 'There' is the pitch

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

Sure I read they were putting in temporary seats over the track when the plans were first put forward to appease the fans.

Doesn't look possible now!

 

[THFCjosh]

Hmm, 90,000 attendance doesn't necessarily mean all Spurs fans though

Wembley sold various seat packages to fund the construction under the name of 'Club Wembley' and I believe that many of those have the right to buy tickets for whatever event is held there in preference to anyone else. Not sure on exact numbers but it might well be 20,000 or so of the seats operate that way.

Will we get ticket revenue on Club Wembley members in that case?

 

[cliff jones]

Hmm, 90,000 attendance doesn't necessarily mean all Spurs fans though

Wembley sold various seat packages to fund the construction under the name of 'Club Wembley' and I believe that many of those have the right to buy tickets for whatever event is held there in preference to anyone else. Not sure on exact numbers but it might well be 20,000 or so of the seats operate that way.

Many of these find their way on the market one way or another and are snapped up by fans.

think of the profile, and the new fans we could entice. Little Johnny, his dad don't like football, but takes him along and he falls in love with the all white, Kane etc.. The husband and wife from China, on hols, do likewise and buy loads of merch. The Spurs fans in the ground will create a good atmosphere I'm sure.

 

[Mattspur]

Surprised that they put the hammers logo on the seats.

 

[gloriousbillynich]

Finally....A proper view in the Olympic stadium without carefully selected angles or seats. Good luck with that lads! The new Delle Alpi.

It's impossible to provide 'concise, factual proof', precisely because leaving is an unknown quantity, but why don't you consider th


What are 'trusted, non-political, impartial sources '? Bankers, corporations, 'experts'? The mainstream media? If any of the above, then you obviously don't realise that these groups have agendas that are usually, if at all ever, in the public interest.

Well that's cheered me right up!

 

[thebenjamin]

Somewhat depressing if as that times article suggests, we get £25M for each shirt and stadium sponsorship from Nike. So £50M in total, and £10M less than nike are paying Chelsea just to make their shirts.