New Stadium Details And Discussions

[punky]

But would TfL allow the inclusion of a sponsor's name in the title of station?

There is a precedent. The Emirates Air Line - Emirates Airlines subsidise the cable car crossing across the Thames. One of the stations is called "Emirates Greenwich Peninsula"

 

[L.A. Yiddo]

KGM wins £3m Spurs roofing contract

26 February, 2013 | By Chris Berkin

Roofing Firm KGM has won a £3m contract to install roofing and cladding on the £400m Tottenham Hotspur development at Northumberland Park.

The job will cover a new Sainsbury’s supermarket, which will be one of the largest in London at 12,000 square metres.

The development also covers 10,200 square metres of commercial and educational space above the supermarket.

KGM will have a full-time project management team based on site, in addition to the roofing and cladding teams.

Mick Papworth, managing director of KGM said: “We are delighted to have been awarded this major contract which has contributed greatly to the £4.4 Million of orders we received in January, breaking all previous sales records already this year!”

Work will begin in March, with the store due to open in November

 

[Lilbaz]

It does take a few months to do the inside.

 

[E17yid]

Apologies if this has already been said but I friend of mine was saying that we were seriously looking into the idea of playing at wembley for 18 months so we can get the construction done quicker. Could be BS, sorry if it is. COYS.

 

[RichieS]

Levy does it again. It will cost between £90 and £150m to put a roof on the OS, but we get it done for £3m.

Can see the rest of the stadium done for a Bale autographed shirt.

That's a pretty big range, to be fair.

 

[L.A. Yiddo]

Apologies if this has already been said but I friend of mine was saying that we were seriously looking into the idea of playing at wembley for 18 months so we can get the construction done quicker. Could be BS, sorry if it is. COYS.

Think that's a no go with Brent council and the deal the FA made with them to actually rebuild Wembley. They only have a finitie number of events allowed there per year and us using it as a temporary home sends Wembley over that quota.

 

[beats1]

Levy does it again. It will cost between £90 and £150m to put a roof on the OS, but we get it done for £3m.

Can see the rest of the stadium done for a Bale autographed shirt.

Those are crazy figures, ours wont cost near that much since we arent designing a roof for a structure that wasnt designed to support a roof of the size they need

But no way ours is £3million and ours will be done by McLaren iirc

 

[L.A. Yiddo]

Those are crazy figures, ours wont cost near that much since we arent designing a roof for a structure that wasnt designed to support a roof of the size they need

But no way ours is £3million and ours will be done by McLaren iirc

Like most large scale projects McClaren (if they are the successful bidder on the Stadium phase) will be the Main Contractor but they will have a subcontractor do that work.

 

[Spur-of-the-moment]

I think the station is more likely to be named after the stadium, and hence the naming rights. So Qatar Air Stadium - would then be on all train maps, and could mean an even bigger carrot for the sponsor, and more cash for us...

I have no real idea how it should work but there could be a problem renaming a station after a naming rights sponsor because it is not necessarily a 'permanent' thing. In principle, naming rights deals are for limited periods (even if they are renewed). So we could envisage objections to naming a station after a sponsor on that basis. Maybe a 20-year deal could make the difference. Even if it could be done, Network Rail would want a slice of the sponsorship fee, of course, so whether or not it would entail an increased amount for THFC is another question.

Sadly, if we want the biggest deal, a naming rights sponsor would wish to expunge all traces of 'White Hart Lane' from the stadium name. Including WHL in the stadium designation will not encourage the exclusive use of the sponsor's name by the media, which is what it's all about. I suspect this is the reason why the club wants the road and the name of the station renamed. It could help the negotiations for naming rights. I suppose 'Tottenham Hotspur Station' and 'Tottenham Hotspur Road' would be good for us and acceptable to the rail authorities and Haringey Council. Perhaps the naming rights deal might be helped along if the stadium name was included as a subtitle on the station name.

All speculation.
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[Lilbaz]

How hard would it be to change all the maps? Not hard, they are regularly replaced. They will have to change it all for cross rail and batersea any way.

 

[worcestersauce]

All they do is stick a new label over the old one on all tubes and buses.

 

[RichSpur58]

So when is the stadium gonna start and when will it be open?

BTW, with regards to the name, how about Levy Land?

 

[ohwhenthespurs]

So when is the stadium gonna start and when will it be open?

BTW, with regards to the name, how about Levy Land?

Shrove Tuesday and Kauto Star.

 

[RichSpur58]

Shrove Tuesday and Kauto Star.

Que?

 

[Spur-of-the-moment]

How hard would it be to change all the maps? Not hard, they are regularly replaced. They will have to change it all for cross rail and batersea any way.

All they do is stick a new label over the old one on all tubes and buses.

Questions...
- How frequent an event is a station name change?
- Has a name ever been changed temporarily (i.e. for 10, 15 or 20 years)?
- Are there any British examples of station names incorporating commercial sponsors?
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[punky]

Questions...
- How frequent an event is a station name change?
- Has a name ever been changed temporarily (i.e. for 10, 15 or 20 years)?
- Are there any British examples of station names incorporating commercial sponsors?
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For point 3, see post #8222

For points 1 and 2, station names do change but not since the 70s and not temporarily. Then again, who in the early 1900s thought there was commercial value in it?

 

[Spur-of-the-moment]

For point 3, see post #8222

For points 1 and 2, station names do change but not since the 70s and not temporarily. Then again, who in the early 1900s thought there was commercial value in it?

Thanks, yes, I had discounted #8222, not because it isn't interesting and informative but because it is both a completely different entity and one where the whole 'line', as it were, is already enabled by a commercial sponsor, something that does not apply to a Network Rail station.

If that's the only precedent, then I suppose we won't see a commercial sponsor incorporated into the new station name. But that doesn't stop the sponsor becoming a 'subtitle' of the station designation.
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[davidmatzdorf]

Only a couple of years ago, the Hammersmith & City Line station at Shepherds Bush had its name changed to 'Shepherds Bush Market', to avoid confusion with another station of the same name. Earlier, 'Charing Cross' was changed to 'Embankment' and 'Strand' was changed to 'Charing Cross' when the Jubilee Line was built. 'Heathrow' was changed to 'Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 & 3' when Terminal 4 was built.

It's not an issue.

 

[punky]

Thanks, yes, I had discounted #8222, not because it isn't interesting and informative but because it is both a completely different entity and one where the whole 'line', as it were, is already enabled by a commercial sponsor, something that does not apply to a Network Rail station.

If that's the only precedent, then I suppose we won't see a commercial sponsor incorporated into the new station name. But that doesn't stop the sponsor becoming a 'subtitle' of the station designation.
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If the extremely corporate-phobic TfL would allow a station and a line on it's network to be corporately-named then a Network Rail station would almost be a given.

Regardless who, what, where, money talks.

 

[Krafty]

I'd expect something like they have for the O2 arena. The station is still called North Greenwich but it says on the maps 'exit for the o2 arena'.

As for changing the maps, they do it all the time. A lot of stations have had disabled access to the platform built and that means the 'O' on the line map is changed to have a disabled symbol in it. It's not a problem.