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Sweetsman

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In a season's time they'll be wetting themselves that Wenger has just been given a 3-year extension and they are way off the pace of winning the league. If we get things right this summer and add the right players, mentally and ability wise, then we will pass them eventually.

Anyway, let's focus on ourselves - if we do this and everything continues to progress they'll be nothing more than an after thought.
And that's the point: we should be aiming to surpass winners, not those deluded tossers.
 

dondo

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Thanks for correcting me. I don't understand why that was so. I think that the following are going to be shown the door:
Trippier, Davis, Mason, Carroll, Bentaleb, Chadli.


Dunno pochettino maybe thought it was a waste having 2 fullbacks on the bench???
I doubt tripper will be leave as he has proved to be a good squad player and his presence has improved walker
 

dagraham

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Its very clear that the problem has been trying to motivate and lift the players after the Chelsea result. They've been on the beach since then, or too many of them have, and they shouldn't of been.

I think it goes a little deeper than that. Unfortunately, we've failed most of the big tests we've faced this season.

Lost to Leicester when they faced a wobble and a win could have changed the momentum. Lost to West Ham and let Arsenal back in when leading with only 10 men, again letting Leicester off the hook. Failed to get the job done against West Brom and then unable to respond at all when they equalised. In total control against Chelsea and then imploded, seemingly more interested in kicking them than focusing on winning the match.

We just don't handle pressure. Either the pressure to respond when things go wrong or the pressure of living up to expectations. It's one thing winning the games you're expected to in Jan/Feb, but at the business end of the season 9/10 we are found wanting.

It's concerning because this was supposed to be the new Spurs, but we've been exposed a bit as the same old Tottenham and Poch has a fair bit of work to do still with our mentality.

Don't think he's covered himself in glory either during the run in. Failed to get the right messages across at half time v Chelsea and I think coming out and saying finishing above Arsenal wasn't important was an error imo. I know what he meant, but better to say it after we've actually done it.
 

Mr Pink

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I think it goes a little deeper than that. Unfortunately, we've failed most of the big tests we've faced this season.

Lost to Leicester when they faced a wobble and a win could have changed the momentum. Lost to West Ham and let Arsenal back in when leading with only 10 men, again letting Leicester off the hook. Failed to get the job done against West Brom and then unable to respond at all when they equalised. In total control against Chelsea and then imploded, seemingly more interested in kicking them than focusing on winning the match.

We just don't handle pressure. Either the pressure to respond when things go wrong or the pressure of living up to expectations. It's one thing winning the games you're expected to in Jan/Feb, but at the business end of the season 9/10 we are found wanting.

It's concerning because this was supposed to be the new Spurs, but we've been exposed a bit as the same old Tottenham and Poch has a fair bit of work to do still with our mentality.

Don't think he's covered himself in glory either during the run in. Failed to get the right messages across at half time v Chelsea and I think coming out and saying finishing above Arsenal wasn't important was an error imo. I know what he meant, but better to say it after we've actually done it.

Mate we beat City twice, the game at their place being very impressive in terms of importance and of course United at home. We also took a very good point at Anfield.

So we didn't fail all our big tests.
 
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danielneeds

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I think they should of been able to lift themselves. The title was gone. Cl was secured and that was that IMO. There wasn't enough


Mate we beat City twice, the game at their place being very impressive in terms of importance and of course United at home. We also took a very good point at Anfield.

So we didn't fail all our big tests.
We didn't fail all our big tests sure, but every huge moment to seize momentum once we were in the title race, we did come up short. That's not a hanging offence, it takes experience sometimes.

Leicester's iron will this season was forged in the relegation fight the season before, and we need to learn the lessons from this season to avoid becoming just like Arsenal, a team that talks a good game but ultimately comes up short every year.
 

dagraham

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I think they should of been able to lift themselves. The title was gone. Cl was secured and that was that IMO. There wasn't enough


Mate we beat City twice, the game at their place being very impressive in terms of importance and of course United at home. We also took a very good point at Anfield.

So we didn't fail all our big tests.

I did say most, not all. It's clear there are many things to be optimistic about for the future of the club, but I still think we are mentally flakey.
 

TH1239

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Two major issues for us heading into August:

-Since October without Mousa Dembele starting: 8 games played: 1 win, 5 losses, 2 draws (5 out of 24 points). Over the course of a full season, that's relegation form. Dembele will miss the first four games next season

-We will have 9 players away at Euros, 1 player at Copa America and Son will go to the Olympics. That will leave an already short squad will little break before the start of the domestic campaign.

We can't wait until late August to sign players. We will drop points and risk dropping out of the top 4 altogether given the undoubtedly strengthen league we'll face.
 

Mr Pink

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I did say most, not all. It's clear there are many things to be optimistic about for the future of the club, but I still think we are mentally flakey.

Fair enough, but even most is too strong for me. But I agree we came up short at some pivotal points. Losing to Leicester at home when we had dominated and failing to beat a ten men Arsenal were probably the most significant IMO.
 

danielneeds

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Fair enough, but even most is too strong for me. But I agree we came up short at some pivotal points. Losing to Leicester at home when we had dominated and failing to beat a ten men Arsenal were probably the most significant IMO.
West Ham too. That was a game all about will and fire in the belly - and we didn't show any.
 

dagraham

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We didn't fail all our big tests sure, but every huge moment to seize momentum once we were in the title race, we did come up short. That's not a hanging offence, it takes experience sometimes.

Leicester's iron will this season was forged in the relegation fight the season before, and we need to learn the lessons from this season to avoid becoming just like Arsenal, a team that talks a good game but ultimately comes up short every year.

Indeed. I know West Ham away for instance was tough, but we put in such a limp performance and against West Brom the thing that bothered me was not so much the result, but that we didn't even remotely look like winning the game from the moment they equalised.
 

TH1239

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