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Phil_2.0

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I watched a 30 minute documentary on Ange that was posted on reddit



He seems like a good guy and a reasonable coach but he doesn't strike me as an exceptional visionary that I think Tottenham need. One of the positives is that he has worked at a range of clubs and institutions so he understands how to work in different set ups.

One surprising thing is I looked at what kind of coaching team he has at Celtic and its all old Celtic players and Harry Kewell. It's not like his coaching team have come into Celtic and turn the club around, I think they've just plugged him into an already existing structure. We really need the opposite of that, someone who can help build a structure. Although they did allude to the fact he did help rebuild Australian national team but I would be wary of believing that too much until I find out more.
 

Tezza1978

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I think what makes me gloomy is the fact that many in here are trying to convince themselves that some of the very substandard options are worth a punt now that others are out of the picture. Such as Potter.

Incidentally, if in the unlikely scenario that Mason ends up with the job by default, Levy is going to be in some serious shit when we fail to improve the squad (he wouldn't be backed!) and Mason struggles in his first few games. The noise from media and anger from fans would be enormous. It might take something like that for the owner and his daughter to move against Levy.
 

Spurs4CL

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Things need to move fast after today. We need the maximum amount of time for the new manager/dof to assess this squad and make decisions. If we don't get Europe we might have to sell or loan out 10-12 players before we even think about buying anyone or there's gonna be players unregistered or barely featuring .
 

WorthATry

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One surprising thing is I looked at what kind of coaching team he has at Celtic and its all old Celtic players and Harry Kewell. It's not like his coaching team have come into Celtic and turn the club around, I think they've just plugged him into an already existing structure. We really need the opposite of that, someone who can help build a structure. Although they did allude to the fact he did help rebuild Australian national team but I would be wary of believing that too much until I find out more.

It's actually the complete opposite. The Celtic before he came are nothing like the Celtic they are now - he came in and changed the structure by making them buy into his style and methods, rather than the other way around.
 

Kirito

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I think what makes me gloomy is the fact that many in here are trying to convince themselves that some of the very substandard options are worth a punt now that others are out of the picture. Such as Potter.

Incidentally, if in the unlikely scenario that Mason ends up with the job by default, Levy is going to be in some serious shit when we fail to improve the squad (he wouldn't be backed!) and Mason struggles in his first few games. The noise from media and anger from fans would be enormous. It might take something like that for the owner and his daughter to move against Levy.
We can rule out Mason and the other options like Agne just based on the fact that Levy will still want to charge a lot for people to come to the stadium. To do that he needs a big name, I dont see all this investment going into the project, trying managers like Jose and Conte to then defaulting with Mason.

It will be someone that puts bums on seats.
 

Nerine

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Seeing as our dicking around seems to be alienating some of our primary managerial targets, if the board aren’t 100% convinced on our next hire, then they sure as bollocks aren’t going to be convinced to back them fully.
 

Timberwolf

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It's anybody's guess how well some of the latest links would fare here, but after having Poch waiting for the phone to ring for months, I'd say Levy has to come up with something way more appealing than Postegoglou, Potter, Marco Silva or Brendan Rodgers. As I said a while back, I think he needs to pull a Julian Nagelsmann shaped rabbit out of a hat (even though his unbelievably stupid PR gaff has made than extremely difficult now).
Yeah I wasn't really pro-Poch return initially because I didn't like the idea of going back, and there were many other strong, fresh candidates.

Now that almost all of those very candidates are off the table for a variety of reasons, you have to wonder why we didn't consider him at all. Regardless of baggage, Poch mk 2 is massively preferable to a Rodgers style appointment.
 

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I think what makes me gloomy is the fact that many in here are trying to convince themselves that some of the very substandard options are worth a punt now that others are out of the picture. Such as Potter.

Incidentally, if in the unlikely scenario that Mason ends up with the job by default, Levy is going to be in some serious shit when we fail to improve the squad (he wouldn't be backed!) and Mason struggles in his first few games. The noise from media and anger from fans would be enormous. It might take something like that for the owner and his daughter to move against Levy.
Yep. The way this club is run though, we can forget the JN or LE types - other than another 18 month cycle in which the guy is promised this and that but ends with him losing his shit as the promises fail to materialise. Poch is persona non grata and a punt on a Gallardo would be very out of character for DL and the board. Slot isn't happening. The options are already thinning out entirely due to the nature of the club owners and set up.

All that's left for us fans at this point are carefully constructed coping mechanisms, for the sake of our sanity if nothing else.
 

SuperLuka

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It's actually the complete opposite. The Celtic before he came are nothing like the Celtic they are now - he came in and changed the structure by making them buy into his style and methods, rather than the other way around.
The same Celtic that won the league 11 out of the last 12 seasons?
 

Japhet

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Yeah I wasn't really pro-Poch return initially because I didn't like the idea of going back, and there were many other strong, fresh candidates.

Now that almost all of those very candidates are off the table for a variety of reasons, you have to wonder why we didn't consider him at all. Regardless of baggage, Poch mk 2 is massively preferable to a Rodgers style appointment.


Can only assume that it was an arrogant attitude that we could get who we wanted. Sadly though, Levy's well earned reputation has preceded him and nobody seems all that keen on working for him now.
 

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That we don't have a manager in place may not be a major problem. The season isn't over and it would make sense that nothing could be announced before it's actually over.

That is what I would've thought if we had a DOF in place. A guy with good footballing knowledge and good merits that knows what he's doing. Then I would still hope we could get something good out of this. How we still haven't solved the DOF situation is absolutely baffling and that's what make me really concerned regarding the managerial hunt.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I watched a 30 minute documentary on Ange that was posted on reddit



He seems like a good guy and a reasonable coach but he doesn't strike me as an exceptional visionary that I think Tottenham need. One of the positives is that he has worked at a range of clubs and institutions so he understands how to work in different set ups.

One surprising thing is I looked at what kind of coaching team he has at Celtic and its all old Celtic players and Harry Kewell. It's not like his coaching team have come into Celtic and turn the club around, I think they've just plugged him into an already existing structure. We really need the opposite of that, someone who can help build a structure. Although they did allude to the fact he did help rebuild Australian national team but I would be wary of believing that too much until I find out more.


Yeah I'm not sure on Anje tbh. It all feels a bit Jessy Marsch. A good motivator with an attractive ultra-attacking outlook that can work wonders with bigger teams in leagues that aren't competitive, but i'm just not sure it can translate to the premier league.

If he is appointed then I really hope I am proved wrong but I definitely have some major concerns.
 

Metalhead

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I think what makes me gloomy is the fact that many in here are trying to convince themselves that some of the very substandard options are worth a punt now that others are out of the picture. Such as Potter.

Incidentally, if in the unlikely scenario that Mason ends up with the job by default, Levy is going to be in some serious shit when we fail to improve the squad (he wouldn't be backed!) and Mason struggles in his first few games. The noise from media and anger from fans would be enormous. It might take something like that for the owner and his daughter to move against Levy.
There's no need to feel gloomy about what we think - it makes no difference at all.
 

Kirito

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It really isn’t.
It’s Celtic in a one horse league, they can do whatever they want to be better, more money, time, and there is no pressure on them. People say that Man City are cheating in the PL, and while Celtic arent doing that, they’re like Man City on steroids in Scotland.

Its a total gamble to hire a manager from that league, and I don’t think gambling is something we can afford to do right now.
 
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