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[agrdavidsfan]

Eh? Why would he leave?

Rumours if he didn’t beat Koln they were planning on sacking him they’ve also just horribly sacked a few people from the club for no reason and Tommy Tickle hasn’t gone down as great as you’d hope with their fans

 

[Metalhead]

Didn't he want Lopetegui previously?

He was certainly mentioned on here a few times.

 

[srups34]

Tuchel may be available! lmao!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22506181/thomas-tuchel-bayern-munich-manager-dietmar-hamann/

That's why we fucked Slot off. Waiting on Tuchel.

 

[HedgieSpur]

Do we actually know that is the case though for sure buddy? A lot of this is guesswork.

But if so then yea in that case I would agree with you that Levy is cheaping out if we know for sure that Slot would’ve come and was attainable for a 15/20 mil fee, same for Naglesmann and Amorim etc.

What I was saying is that Levy has typically spend big on Manager wages for Jose and Conte but yes in terms of buying managers out of contracts, aside from Redknapp and possibly Juande Ramos? He’s rarely done that or spent big on it and that is a huge failing in his part and it’s probably meant we’ve missed out on some very good managerial targets.

It’s just difficult because none of us really know with absolute confidence all of this facts behind the scene, did Slot actually turn us down, same for Naglesmann for example, we’re we willing to pay the fees but it was a disagreement on control or transfer budgets or vision that was the issue etc, we don’t know

But I totally see your point mate

I have to say mate, although we are at polar opposites on our manager choices, you’ve done a great job of keeping positive and trying to look forward

I’m very doom and gloom about us and actually more apathetic than anything else…

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Eh? Why would he leave?

he won’t; bayern have already said he’ll stay, but Hamann chats rubbish professionally

 

[Guntz]

Tuchel isn't leaving ffs

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

Tuchel, Poch, JN all available at some point in this search…and we’ll end up with a manager from a league which any of us could win who has never managed in any of top 10 leagues in world.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Since Rangers relegation circa 13 years ago Celtic with the exception of one season (Rangers) have dominated the SPL.

There was a time where Celtic were a joy to watch, they were putting in some fantastic European performances and producing some very talented players who went on to have successful Premier League careers.

However, if you look at their squad now there isn’t anyone who genuinely stands out or looks like they would be a success in the EPL. Whereas on a European level they were knocked out in the Champions League qualifying 2 years ago and finished bottom of their group in 22/23. Despite being a shadow of their former selves they continue to dominate Scottish football as those around them including Rangers are very poor.

If Celtic were still being competitive in Europe then you could argue Postecoglou is worth taking a risk on but based on the current standard it is a massive risk to expect him to be up to the job. Get our next appointment wrong and our future looks bleak.

edit:

SPL - there’s very little pressure on Ange. You could argue the expectation to win the league every season is high pressure but when you’re the only decent team in the league and walk it 9.5/10 seasons then that pressure is mild at best.

Whereas in the EPL the pressure will be huge… look at Nuno, yes he was a terrible appointment but he was toast within a few months. Ange at Celtic and the piddly little clubs he’s managed before Celtic, he won’t have experienced anywhere near the pressure he’ll be under in the EPL.

 

[HedgieSpur]

Since Rangers relegation circa 13 years ago Celtic with the exception of one season (Rangers) have dominated the SPL.

There was a time where Celtic were a joy to watch, they were putting in some fantastic European performances and producing some very talented players who went on to have successful Premier League careers.

However, if you look at their squad now there isn’t anyone who genuinely stands out or looks like they would be a success in the EPL. Whereas on a European level they were knocked out in the Champions League qualifying 2 years ago and finished bottom of their group in 22/23. Despite being a shadow of their former selves they continue to dominate Scottish football as those around them including Rangers are very poor.

If Celtic were still being competitive in Europe then you could argue Postecoglou is worth taking a risk on but based on the current standard it is a massive risk to expect him to be up to the job. Get our next appointment wrong and our future looks bleak.

I wonder how many goals Kyogo would get in the Prem?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Tuchel is the centre of their rebuild and just won the league. Every bit of info coming out of BM has been saying the same, that he is the man to lead next season’s rebuild.

Also even IF he was hypocritically available im sure he’d have the same demands as JN so you might as well write him off regardless.

 

[jebratt]

Tuchel may be available! lmao!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22506181/thomas-tuchel-bayern-munich-manager-dietmar-hamann/

Not that I think this is true considering the source but is it too far fetched to think they might consider re-appointing Nagelsmann?

 

[dontcallme]

Tuchel is the centre of their rebuild and just won the league. Every bit of info coming out of BM has been saying the same, that he is the man to lead next season’s rebuild.

Also even IF he was hypocritically available im sure he’d have the same demands as JN so you might as well write him off regardless.

Insert [you’re saying there’s a chance gif].

 

[Tucker]

I wonder how many goals Kyogo would get in the Prem?

Three and a half.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Rumours if he didn’t beat Koln they were planning on sacking him they’ve also just horribly sacked a few people from the club for no reason and Tommy Tickle hasn’t gone down as great as you’d hope with their fans

Bayern were very fortunate to win the league… they only won it because Dortmund bottled their final game at home to Mainz.

If anything Bayern’s form was worse under Tuchel than it was under Nagelsmann.

 

[Hoopspur]

I see it differently. It's an expensive option for Levy!

Fans will be furious and plenty will not renew season tickets as it shows no ambition.
It has more possibility of going very awry. Which means no European money etc etc.
May be harder to attract players.
Mason will probably want to kick out at least 8 players.

So it won't be cheap and it'll be very risky.

Cheap for Levy is 'safe'.

Bigger name coach, less change around, short-term gain.

Can I remind you ST renewal is in 3 days. I’m not sure we will have any decision before then tbh. The die is cast whichever way imo.

 

[Drink!Drink!]

Since I last checked into this thread I see there's been another mass outbreak of stockholm syndrome...

The global hunt for the best managerial talent to lead an elite team to glory actually translates to we need to find someone who won't disagree with Levy's opinions on players and won't complain when their 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice for a key position isn't purchased cos...you know....a club transfer opportunity presented itself....and somehow that's a good outcome...a Yes man with Levy massively interfering with what players will be coming or going....I mean I know this is a likely outcome, not sure I am joining the hallelujah chorus on that one

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I have to say mate, although we are at polar opposites on our manager choices, you’ve done a great job of keeping positive and trying to look forward

I’m very doom and gloom about us and actually more apathetic than anything else…

Thanks mate very kind of you to say.

I am also very realistic and know that the direction of the club could go either way but I’m also trying to see positive signs where there are some and also not jump to over the top negative conclusions when I/we really don’t know all the facts and context.

Am I worried we won’t appoint the right fit next manager? Absolutely.

Do I think we could end up with a good choice? Also absolutely.

The fact we clearly looked at Slot is a positive in my view. I also like how Levy and Hitchen identified Fonseca in the summer of 2021 before Paratici pulled the plug, that to me says Levy does ‘get it’ in terms of the style of play and type of fit manager we need but I feel he’ also been swayed and influenced by Paratici (who was the wrong fit for us) and also by the narrative that we need to ‘win a trophy’ so he thought hiring Conte or Jose would get us over the line.

I now think that surely to goodness Levy and the board realise the direction we need to go in, I just hope and pray they get this one right and most Importantly stick to that correct ‘identity’ as it’ll make everything else they need to do a lot easier, it’s been the constant scattergun approach of the last 3-4 years that has been the biggest issue, until then for about 15-20 years we did have a general direction and sort of ‘plan’, since Poch was fired we’ve been an aimless ship floating in the middle of the ocean.

Masons comments give me a small crumb of confidence.

And it’s great that we all have different opinions on who the new manager should be, that’s the point of a forum to discuss opinions, if everyone blindly agrees then that’s very boring

Let’s see what happens our first pre season match is on 18th July, I assume we need someone in absolute latest end of July so they have a few weeks to plan their pre season and help shape the squad so there should be some movement in the next few weeks… we hope.

 

[jebratt]

Tuchel, Poch, JN all available at some point in this search…and we’ll end up with a manager from a league which any of us could win who has never managed in any of top 10 leagues in world.
Begs the questions what are Levy and the board thinking and are they truly serious about on-field success…????

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Since I last checked into this thread I see there's been another mass outbreak of stockholm syndrome...

The global hunt for the best managerial talent to lead an elite team to glory actually translates to we need to find someone who won't disagree with Levy's opinions on players and won't complain when their 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice for a key position isn't purchased cos...you know....a club transfer opportunity presented itself....and somehow that's a good outcome...a Yes man with Levy massively interfering with what players will be coming or going....I mean I know this is a likely outcome, not sure I am joining the hallelujah chorus on that one

Not sure it’s Stockholm Syndrome mate but we all know Levy isn’t going anywhere therefore it makes sense to get a Manager in who will work ‘with’ Levy and the DofF not one who has polar opposite views etc.

Finding someone to align with Levy however will be quite the challenge. Poch made it work, Jol and Redknapp the same, so it can be done, I just think we’ve gone down the wrong path since Poch left, time for a reset this summer.

 

[jebratt]

Eh? Why would he leave?

Maybe because some of the people who were responsible for his hiring are no longer there so perhaps he feels that he will not be properly supported?