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taidgh

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worcestersauce

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As per the recent updates, club’s toxic and no one with any pedigree will go anywhere near us?

If that’s the case and as much as he’s got an awful lot to learn, surely we have to appoint Mason?

a) he wants the job
b) he’s now qualified and has been in and around the team for a few years
c) albeit with mixed results and performances we’ve seen both a change in approach and some bright moments under Mason

With Mason I think the fans will give him some rope and time to get us on the right path again. Whereas if we get Nuno MK 2 then the fans will be baying for blood from the off.

Allow Mason to bring in a mixture of experience and up and coming coaches and give him a clean slate.

As multiple posters have said we undoubtedly have some quality in the squad and obviously a few cart horses who need putting down or moving on.

At this point in time I would be tempted to give Mason the chance to impress and grow as a coach.

The alternative is we appoint plan zzz, the players aren’t impressed, things continue on a downward spiral and the Poch successful era becomes a distant memory and lower to mid table becomes the norm.
I'm sure it breaks premier league rules to put down players you no longer want, probably lead to a points deduction.
 

the stick man

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How can people who have created a world class stadium and infrastructure get us into such a mess? I’m not even angry anymore, just sad.
Because it’s not a mess to them. They have their entertainment venue, the football is just a division of a corporation now. Not the biggest priority anymore. You think they would let the business side of things get this bad?! Not a chance
 

DenverSpur

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let’s say we are worth £3bn if we where a much better run club on the football side then could be another half a billion or more on top.

However I don’t think Joe Lewis would understand that as a lot of it is not easy to quantify. Win the league you could get X more sponsorship but what is the X number, it would be hard to tell.

Stadiums, hotels etc a lot easier to see and price. Football is heavily based on emotion and that emotion generates money but I think Levy and Lewis are a bit colour blind on this aspect.

I agree with you, Paul Barber as Chairman and a well run team would make us more valuable while Levy could concentrate on property. However Levy won’t lose control and Lewis probably won’t understand.
I agree but look at Chelsea and ManCity? How much did Abromavitch(?) pay for Chelsea? How much did the oilers pay for MC? Yes A spent a lot on players but how much did Boely pay for them, with an old stadium needing redevelopment? The oilers spent a load of dosh on players and also redeveloping their campus. How much do you think they be worth if they were to sell out.? Their on field achievements for a sustained period of time is what makes them valuable. If we’re worth 3B now I reckon we would be worth at the very least 1B more if we’d had anywhere near the same level of success they’ve had. It’s their tight-fisted shortsightedness which drives me crazy.
 

DenverSpur

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Kane will be at UTD. At this point of his career he needs multiple chances of winning shit + extra cash. We won’t be offering that next year and the year after is a gamble. If I’m Kane I’m off.
But you’re not Kane. So you’re just voicing conjecture not facts.
 
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DenverSpur

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With Poch going to Chelsea I'm going to risk an unpopular comment. Of course my first hope is our board suddenly has a wonderful life visit and see's the error of their ways and gets out of their own way.

However, assuming that doesn't happen and the board repeat recent mistakes. I think the best thing that can happen for Spurs (here comes the deep water), is that Poch wins the league or does something significant with Chelsea, not saying he will but I'm saying it would be the best thing for Spurs in the long run.

The reason I think this is because they could have brought Poch back, they made the decision they made and so if he ends up absolutely smashing it with Chelsea, the board will not be able to escape what's staring them in the face that this was their own doing. Now I'm not saying that Joe Lewis will fire them all or heads will roll, I'm saying that they won't be able to hide from their decision, they will be forced to come to terms with the uncomfortable emotion of that. Spurs fans will be so angry that they will not allow it to be forgotten if Pochettino goes to Chelsea and succeeds and we're fumbling around with Nuno mark 2.

I thought the same if Arsenal won the league, the club wouldn't be able to hide behind the bigger clubs excuses and that the embarrassment of Arsenal winning before us given our position would mean that some internal investigation would have to take place. They escaped that but this is bigger, they decided Poch was not the person to bring back, he's not at our rival and our board best hope they made the right choice because it will be scorched earth time from the Spurs fans.

Tbh the likelihood is slim as that's a hell of a difficult job he's got to contend with at Chelsea but I'm adamant that if people make decisions that sometimes, the only way they'll dare look at themselves to learn is to suffer the worse possible consequence, this would be it.

They were already under pressure to get the right manager but now with Poch going Chelsea, the tension is at snapping point to make the correct decision.
You’re presuming they have any self awareness and the capacity for self reflection.
 

DenverSpur

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I thought I fell out of love with the club back in 2021 when sacked Jose and hired Nuno after a depressingly long manager hunt. Then we somehow got Conte and everything looked on the up again with him and Paratici dealing with the football side and Levy taking a back seat. Didn't last long did it.

Can't believe how out of love with Tottenham I am right now, to the point where when the amazing away fans at Leeds started singing "Can't smile without you" Those words to that song have never felt so true, followed straight after with "We want Levy out" Actual made me well up a little bit because I don't think Levy really understands what this club means to most of us, and "Can't smile without you" is the perfect song for us right now.
They’re it singing now because the club feels like it did back in the 90’s which is when the Palmers Green Boys started singing that song at away games.
 

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Something for me and probably others to ponder regarding Postecoglou...

Prior to the game, Guardiola seemed excited by the test, telling media: “Having watched Yokohama videos this could be the best game we play because of the way they play. Both City and Yokohama have same philosophies. It’s a pleasure to be in Japan again and hopefully the fans enjoy the football.

City won the match 3-1, with Yokohama giving a good account of themselves.

Raheem Sterling was impressed after the game, telling The World Game that “they’re probably one of the best teams” he’s seen playing out from the back.

Guardiola was effusive too, stating: “Yokohama played some incredible football and they were an incredible test for us. I knew how good they were and it was tough for us.”

Of course, the cynic in you will look at those comments from Guardiola and Sterling and suggest that it was all PR considering that The City Group own 20% of Postecoglou’s side.

And what of The City Group and their thoughts on the former Australia boss? Well, they’re big fans.

Damian Willoughby, senior vice-president of partnerships at the organisation, told The World Game last month: “Ange is a phenomenal coach and has done an exceptional job at Yokohama.

“When Manchester City played Yokohama in a pre-season game at Nissan Stadium a couple of years ago it was not only a great game for a pre-season friendly but it was hard at times to separate Manchester City from Yokohama in terms of the style of play. He is one of the leading coaches in the world.
 

olliec

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I find it absolutely shocking that there isn’t even a hint in the media about us signing a new DOF or manager but reports we are still trying to sign players. The only power we have as fans is we start turning our back on our beloved club. Not buy merchandise, season tickets, standard tickets and just literally halt everything and stop until he goes. If we start to do that in the large quantity levy will have no choice but to sell. This is our club and we the fans made this club what it is. Will be here long after he’s gone! He’s nothing but a horrible blip in our great clubs history.
 

jebratt

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I think Spurs fans are loyal and passionate so it is extremely difficult for most of us to boycott various aspects of the club despite the obvious shortcomings of our board…
 

jebratt

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Something for me and probably others to ponder regarding Postecoglou...

Prior to the game, Guardiola seemed excited by the test, telling media: “Having watched Yokohama videos this could be the best game we play because of the way they play. Both City and Yokohama have same philosophies. It’s a pleasure to be in Japan again and hopefully the fans enjoy the football.

City won the match 3-1, with Yokohama giving a good account of themselves.

Raheem Sterling was impressed after the game, telling The World Game that “they’re probably one of the best teams” he’s seen playing out from the back.

Guardiola was effusive too, stating: “Yokohama played some incredible football and they were an incredible test for us. I knew how good they were and it was tough for us.”

Of course, the cynic in you will look at those comments from Guardiola and Sterling and suggest that it was all PR considering that The City Group own 20% of Postecoglou’s side.

And what of The City Group and their thoughts on the former Australia boss? Well, they’re big fans.

Damian Willoughby, senior vice-president of partnerships at the organisation, told The World Game last month: “Ange is a phenomenal coach and has done an exceptional job at Yokohama.

“When Manchester City played Yokohama in a pre-season game at Nissan Stadium a couple of years ago it was not only a great game for a pre-season friendly but it was hard at times to separate Manchester City from Yokohama in terms of the style of play. He is one of the leading coaches in the world.
Much appreciated but after assessing all the candidates that are currently/recently available, Ange just seems a little underwhelming and feels like we are settling for our third or fourth choice…
 

jebratt

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Another reason for the delay might be due to Levy listening to too many football people (agents) who are essentially marketing their clients…I feel he needs to be more decisive and trust only a select few who truly understand and appreciate Spurs DNA…
 
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