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midoshairband

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What have I said that isn't true?

I watched a doc on Barca once and the board were mapping out the team and targets with a formation. And we think Levy interferes!

He's made a load of infuriating mistakes but it is all there for the right man to grab it by the scruff if the neck.

all true, they must be queuing up to take it.
 

Mr Pink

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Its the mentality those coaches have brought.

They are not brave. Conte proved to be a coward in the end.

Jose threw them under the bus and retreated to not giving a shit.

Nuno was scared.

Those three coaches have reflected the team.

Poch was brave and fought until he could no longer. Thats when it turned.

The club, the players now need a coach who is brave, who rolls his sleeves up, who raises the players, who encourages them to play with freedom and bravery.

We've had none of that for 4 years now and it shows.


This is it, exactly this 👏

The team is a reflection of the negative managers we've had for years now.

Such a sad state of affairs...

We've been left with no footballing soul let alone DNA

But it's Levy who's continued to appoint them hoping their winning pedigree would be enough for precious top 4....and not giving what was needed
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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Even though he’d be one of the least popular choices, actually think Rodgers would do the best. What the fans want generally turns out to be wrong most of the time anyway
 

spurs9

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Slot defensive stats in Eredivisie:

22/23 Feyenoord
2nd best defence: 26 conceded in 27 games (Twente best defence with 22 conceded in 27 games)
Shots Conceded per Game: Ranked joint 1st with 8.7 (Ajax the same, Twente next with 11.1)

21/22 Feyenoord
2nd best defence: 34 conceded in 34 games (Ajax best defence with 19 conceded in 34 games)
Shots Conceded per Game: Ranked 2nd with 8.9 (Ajax top with 7.9)

20/21 AZ Alkmaar - Sacked in December as he was talking to Feyenoord

19/20 AZ Alkmaar (season ended after 25 games due to Covid)

1st best defence: 17 conceded in 25 games (Ajax 2nd best defence with 23 conceded in 25 games)
Shots Conceded per Game: Ranked 2nd with 10.6 (Ajax top with 9.6)
Just to add to this, due to injuries in the 19/20 season, he had to use 5'7 Jordy Clasie as a CB in 7 games and goal scoring CM Koopmeiners as a CB in 7 games (never in the same game).

This season, also due to injuries, he has had to use his RB as a CM in 15 games.

Worth also noting, it wasn't even an injury crisis that caused it, just 1 CB injured.
 

felmani26

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I sincerely hope we don't skank a CL berth because we need to drop back to enable the hard reset, allow the coach time on the training pitch without European distractions - of which we won't bother turning up to anyway - to ingrain the new methods and to rebuild the expectations at this club.

No half measures here.
 

H-SF

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If our top target is Slot, there is no way Levy is reacting tonight and just employing someone out of work.

Going to be a tough watch these next 9 games unfortunately.
Brighton are going to embarass us on Saturday.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I was very much behind an Arne Slot appointment the last few days, but now I honestly think we need a mind set expert rather than a tactical expert.

These players are such cowards that I don’t think any tactics will get us playing well.

Need a manager to come in and try and take on the monumental task of getting these players to grow a pair.

Think one of Ange Postecoglou or Marcelo Gallardo could be the man.

Back before Nuno was appointed I was crying out for Potter, almost entirely because he has a masters degree in leadership and emotional intelligence. Shame he’s tainted goods now due to the Boehly circus.
I completely agree with you. Was always a big draw for me re Gallardo. A major concern for him is the mental condition of his players to the point that he has members of staff specifically employed to deal just with that. I think it’s a massive issue for us and has been for years.

A change of tactics to something more aggressive is essential and will in itself no doubt lighten the mood somewhat but I can’t help but feel it would only be a matter of time before they slip back. Whoever we go for I think the personality, especially from a leadership point of view as you say, is just as important as the tactics.
 

alfie103

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Don't know how people cant see this.

Conte's system is all about drawing the opposition out and catching them out once they move out of positions.

It's not a system that can pass the ball comfortably around 10 men. It doesnt take the control.

It sets baits and traps and that means defenders/goalkeepers (the least technical) on the pitch have to negotiate there way through the press whilst the more technical players wait to get into space.

I can guarantee De Zerbi, Arteta, Emery even Potter would have just controlled that last 20 mins.

We had no control because the system relies on giving it to the opposition.

To be fair, keeping hold of possession requires players who can control and pass the ball under pressure. I don't think the large majority of players can consistently do that.
 

rossdapep

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Just to add to this, due to injuries in the 19/20 season, he had to use 5'7 Jordy Clasie as a CB in 7 games and goal scoring CM Koopmeiners as a CB in 7 games (never in the same game).

This season, also due to injuries, he has had to use his RB as a CM in 15 games.

Worth also noting, it wasn't even an injury crisis that caused it, just 1 CB injured.
Simply good coaching. Something we've lacked for donkeys
 

GioW

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I completely agree with you. Was always a big draw for me re Gallardo. A major concern for him is the mental condition of his players to the point that he has members of staff specifically employed to deal just with that. I think it’s a massive issue for us and has been for years.

A change of tactics to something more aggressive is essential and will in itself no doubt lighten the mood somewhat but I can’t help but feel it would only be a matter of time before they slip back. Whoever we go for I think the personality, especially from a leadership point of view as you say, is just as important as the tactics.
Agree. And perhaps makes a slightly stronger case for a Mr Kompany?
 

only1waddle

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This is it, exactly this 👏

The team is a reflection of the negative managers we've had for years now.

Such a sad state of affairs...

We've been left with no footballing soul let alone DNA

But it's Levy who's continued to appoint them hoping their winning pedigree would be enough for precious top 4....and not giving what was needed

Whilst I can agree with this in some way, we just sat back against 10 men, that's not years of loosing our DNA, that's utterly shit coaching.
 

rossdapep

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I was very much behind an Arne Slot appointment the last few days, but now I honestly think we need a mind set expert rather than a tactical expert.

These players are such cowards atm that I don’t think any tactics will get us playing well.

Need a manager to come in and try and take on the monumental task of getting these players to grow a pair.

Think one of Ange Postecoglou or Marcelo Gallardo could be the man.

Back before Nuno was appointed I was crying out for Potter, almost entirely because he has a masters degree in leadership and emotional intelligence. Shame he’s tainted goods now due to the Boehly circus.
Good post!

I do agree but I also think Slot seems a very positive smiley character
 

Albertbarich

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I completely agree with you. Was always a big draw for me re Gallardo. A major concern for him is the mental condition of his players to the point that he has members of staff specifically employed to deal just with that. I think it’s a massive issue for us and has been for years.

A change of tactics to something more aggressive is essential and will in itself no doubt lighten the mood somewhat but I can’t help but feel it would only be a matter of time before they slip back. Whoever we go for I think the personality, especially from a leadership point of view as you say, is just as important as the tactics.
You never know really who will be the right fit mentally. When I see Arteta I see a Spanish David Brent but his players will run through brick walls for him.

I dont know about Slot the man but I wouldn't rule out most candidates on the basis of the mental aspect because it feels like a huge chunk of luck can be needed sometimes.
 

felmani26

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Simply good coaching. Something we've lacked for donkeys
I think you also need players who are receptive to what these coaches are telling them as well.

Unfortunately, when the going gets tough, they know they can ultimately get the manager out the door rather than them taking responsibility.
 

rossdapep

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Whilst I can agree with this in some way, we just sat back against 10 men, that's not years of loosing our DNA, that's utterly shit coaching.
yes it is but its also the mentality.

Players who have a brave mindset instilled and have been coached to play would see it through.

It's a combination.

The coaching has manifested a cowardly attitude.
 
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