Next Manager Watch

[ComfortablyNumb]

I don't think any coach can consistently (i.e. season in and season out) get the likes of Dier, Davies, Tanganga, Sanchez, Lloris, Lenglet, Hojbjerg to perform at the top levels week in week out to challenge at the top. That's because they are not of the requisite quality imo. Football coaching is coaching not alchemy.

We won't know until we get one that tries.

 

[fletch82]

A different manager with a different and positive approach can completely transform average looking players.
Look at xakha at arse 2 years ago he was seen as a liability and goonies wanted him out of the club now he is having probably his best season for them.
We need to get this appointment right and I doubt very much poch is the answer.
It feels like a heart over head thing to me.

 

[Japhet]

We don’t need another hot head where we are at right now. We need more of a steady hand. Also, passion is often used to justify stupid actions. Think he took comments way out of context and acted unprofessionally. No way would I want him.

What we need is somebody who can coach a football team to play free flowing football. I'm not particularly pro DeZerbi but I think a whole load of managers would probably lose their cool with the cards Brighton were dealt yesterday.

 

[spursfan77]

One major thing is that with little to no information leaking out of the club, journalists are joining the dots up to say there is no plan. Fans also see no immediate announcement and think the same.

If Slot is already lined up but it's massively hush hush so to not disrupt Feyenoord then we won't hear anything.

I bet there’s no news because nothing is currently happening. I suspect we are waiting until the summer to assess it then. I wouldn’t be surprised if the furthest we’ve got is instructing agents to find out if their clients are interested and we are then waiting to see the lie of the land in June.

This club doesn’t do proactive.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

So if I’m reading this thread correctly:

- We don’t want a manager who’s already managed us because it didn’t end well, and it won’t end well…

- We don’t want a manager who’s good enough to be on the radar of bigger clubs because if they do well they’ll get poached and it won’t end well…

- we don’t want a manager who isn’t on the radar of bigger clubs because if they’re not good enough for them, they’re not good enough for us, but if they do well for us they’ll get poached and it won’t end well…

- we don’t want a manager who has no PL experience because it’s a risk and won’t end well…

- we don’t want a manager who does have PL experience because we need fresh ideas and not the ‘same-old-same-old because it won’t end well…

- we don’t want a manager who’s too young because it won’t end well…

- we don’t want a manager who’s too old because it won’t end well…

- we don’t want a manager who is popular with the fans because getting something right would let DL off the hook for a while, and what’s the point anyway because it won’t end well…

- we don’t want a manager who will want to rebuild because the makings of a good team are in there somewhere and if they want to bring in fresh blood it won’t end well…

- we don’t want a manager who is prepared to work with the existing squad because that would let DL off the hook for a while and wouldn’t end well…

Have I missed anything?

Too much common sense in your post for this Forum

 

[jackson]

If Poch doesn't come back I hope he's employed elsewhere fairly quickly as it seems a lot of the fan base think he's the only man in world football that can manage here and new man will be under pressure from the word go for not being Poch when we're not transformed and playing swashbuckling football overnight.

 

[spursfan77]

Poch said we needed a rebuild. Those players are still there and we have been awful for the last 3 seasons. We need to start a rebuild and get rid of those players.
Poch did that last time by getting rid of players such as Lennon, Kaboul and Adebayor

The problem we have if Poch did come back is that those who don’t want it to happen will jump on us massively every time we don’t win. They’ll forget all about the project and the rebuild in an attempt to say I told you so. It’s predictably childish but it will happen.

 

[Tezza1978]

You know what, I'm not that fussed about competitive. I'm just interested in enjoying going to watch football again.

Whether it's Hoddle waltzing past Oxford, Ronny Rocket hitting 4 against Southampton, Nielsen throwing himself to win against Leicester, Bale stealing Inter Milan's taxi, or Poch in tears in Amsterdam... There has always been something magic about supporting this club.

There's no magic right now. I want that back.

And this is what I can't understand about a section of our fanbase, in one short sentence.

Its small time.

Yes we all want entertaining football as well. But we aren't the Lamb and Flag Sunday League XI. We are Tottenham Hotspur and being competitive and competing for trophies is absolutely essential. The fans and board will, rightly, not put up with finishing 8th if we play "attractive attacking football" and lose games 6-4.

Dodging trophies and being "Spursy" is the reason why we are a banter club and not being competitive is a recipe for more years of that. No thanks.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Do what Walker did at Blackburn with Shearer, and offer Kane the player/manager role to try and keep him

 

[olliec]

Really warming to the idea of Kompany. Think he’s the right character to take this club forward, style, and personality. Absolute leader on the pitch and legend by city fans. Long as he doesn’t see us as a stepping stone and in it for the long term I’ll back him.

A lot of disagrees but curious as to know why people think he would be a bad appointment if we wanted to build a project with us. Him and Yaya were two players I would say are world class.

 

[Gassin's finest]

And this is what I can't understand about a section of our fanbase, in one short sentence.

Its small time.

Yes we all want entertaining football as well. But we aren't the Lamb and Flag Sunday League XI. We are Tottenham Hotspur and being competitive and competing for trophies is absolutely essential. The fans and board will, rightly, not put up with finishing 8th if we play "attractive attacking football" and lose games 6-4.

Dodging trophies and being "Spursy" is the reason why we are a banter club and not being competitive is a recipe for more years of that. No thanks.

Yeah but I don't give a shit about that. Otherwise I'd just be a City/Utd/Scouse plastic.

 

[knowlespurs]

Yes...We want a manager who, irrespective of results "just makes us feel good"

And gets results

 

[rightwayup]

Why is being entertaining and competitive mutually exclusive. We were pretty close under Poch and tbh that was more on Levy not sanctioning fresh players when our squad was thin. If I wanted the "thrill" of winning stuff all the time I would support City, or in my younger years Liverpool.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

The last two games have shown nothing has changed. We’re still sitting back and inviting pressure onto our nervy defence. First game I almost accepted maybe time was short post international week, not much time to implement things, so it was just familiarity thing and change would come. But for the next game to be the same shows there is not change planned, just stubborn application of the same approach.
We’re now in even more of a mess, and the board are faced with a huge conundrum. Do they stick or twist. If they hold on, we’re going to continue this spiral downwards in confidence and it’ll take some serious rebuilding. Or do they change again and release the remainder of Conte’s staff. The concern now is yesterday prompts another knee jerk reaction and the board go for Poch as a quick fix to appease the fans. Short term it may give us a boost, but it feels he’s never really been the target, and going now would be taking the easy path not the right path. Yes, he’d probably give us a short term lift, but long term is it the right choice.
I do understand the delay on coach appointment if the favoured candidate is not available. Even Chelsea with all their money have had to appoint Lampard in the interim. It would be more reassuring to know we actually have someone lined up or at least strongly targeted off the back of an inclination they would come too.
Nagelsmann seems like the best fit from a point of view he’s recently been at an elite club and would bring that reputation that could get Kane to extend and also be attractive to signings, but also what he’s shown at RBL and Hoffenheim as a coach could translate to Spurs more comparatively than Bayern. But it feels we are not his preference, and no more than a backup option, which is kind of how it felt with Conte, here doing us a favour and not sustainable long term.
This leads us to the coaches on their way up, perhaps not the high end reputation some would hope, but ultimately more likely to actually want to come. Slot and Gallardo may just be a better all round fit. Perhaps not the big names to appease Kane etc, but that can’t be a deciding necessity, it’s just a ‘nice to have’ factor. Both have shown an ability to play football pleasing on the eye. Gallardo has been very successful at River, and showed an ability to rebuild his squad and stay competitive. Slot is starting to show that also, finished 5th the year before he joined, 3rd last year in his first season, but this season with 7 games to go they are 5 points clear at the top and have a game in hand. Also through to QF of Europa. All this despite losing €70m of talent last summer and spending only €35m on replacements, they have actually improved and progressed the squad.
Then you have Postecoglou, he seems to be gathering certain interest but I’m not sure I quite see it. He’s having success no doubt, but I expect that from Celtic. It’s a two horse league. What Slot and Gallardo have done, (or about to do) seems more competitive.
Same as Enrique doesn’t quite seem the answer for me. Big name, international coach, won things at Barca, but doesn’t seem comparable to our needs and position.

Nagelsmann, Slot or Gallardo for me. In any order. If we could do whatever is required to get either JN or MG over the line early (understanding Slot isn’t going to leave Feyenoord yet), then that could be a game changer right now.

 

[Archibald-CPH]

Seems like in the space of a week we have lost De Zerbi, Nagelsmann and Gallardo. By the end of the season we will have no one left.

Also Gallardo? Where?

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

My general concern is that whoever we bring in to have us play ”on the front foot” (intense pressing, attacking and possession-based footie etc) will likely struggle to do so with our current squad. Primarily because it is severly lacking in the three basic elements below, which IMO are essential for such tactics. So whereas Conte ball certainly has not been very entertaining (and not something I want to see more of), I can still understand his rationale for defending low considering the shortcomings of our squad.

• Pressing from the front - Kane and Son (for all their qualities) no longer have the legs to do that. Brighton (like most teams before them) played through our press with ease.
• Playing out from the back/press resistance - Basically all opponents have figured out that the risk/reward of pressing us high is very favorable, which often sees us pinned back in our own half. And with the exception of Porro/Romero (maybe Lenglet at a stretch), the rest of our defenders do not have the basic technique/vision to play out from the back. To improve this we also need to upgrade our ballplaying qualities in CM (as pretty much only Bents is at all press resistant).
• Recovery pace in defence - our current lot simply do not have it, and without it we will be murdered on the counter if we still try to play a high line defence.

We didnt have any pace at CB under Poch.

I think this is a bit of a Myth that you need pace to play a high line. Reading of the game and ability on the ball are more key imo.

 

[Metalhead]

Also Gallardo? Where?

9-1 on Slot is probably worth lumping a few quid on.

 

[George94]

Have I missed anything?

Yep, the must show PASHUN on the touchline but not have an ego so fragile they cause pointless fights and get themselves sent off

 

[daryl]

Name me a manager who gets to a champions league final with almost zero net spend, nearly wins the league with a zero net spend, in England btw where there’s more money spent than anywhere,, And then show me a load of brain dead idiots to talk utter bollox about him,, from the club he almost achieved the impossible for,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[teok]

Yep, the must show PASHUN on the touchline but not have an ego so fragile they cause pointless fights and get themselves sent off

-Not wear "fashionable" clothes (Nagelsmann) was one I read.