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hero

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Think they had about 32% possession against Arsenal in one of the legs when they were at Home and 41% away against us under conte when we were a low possession side ourselves.

I think from watching them they’re marginally more good to watch than us under Conte but how much of that is down to their small and technical passing and dribbling players vs coaching and tactics?

For me Almorim is too similar to conte, he’s not as bad as Glassner’s 3-4-3 though, his 3-4-3 is just like contes counter attacks focus mainly.

Whereas Naglesman, Slot, Kompany would all play high possession, high pressing, attacking free flowing entertaining football.

I think Almorim is a good young coach but I think we’d get bored unfortunately and that is the last thing we need After the last 3 years.
The teams of these coaches also had around 40% of possession against better teams. You just need to make some research to learn it. Amorim is more attacking, than defensive coach. It is a statistics. While, he tends to be more defensive against a better side, that's true.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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The teams of these coaches also had around 40% of possession against better teams. You just need to make some research to learn it. Amorim is more attacking, than defensive coach. It is a statistics. While, he tends to be more defensive against a better side, that's true.
Forget statistics then, I’ve watched them play a fair few times, as I said they’re okish to watch but they’re nothing special and I think some of it is down to the type of players they have not just tactics.

The season they won the league they scored an average amount of goals and had a very good defence, Portuguese managers and style is rarely a good match for what our fans want to see.

Id rate his teams style of play about 6/10, Naglesman, Slot, De Zerbi, Kompany more like 8-9/10.
 

wrd

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Spor looks to have worked in a logical sequence also, video analyst, then scout, now sporting director, worked with good people and in a number of different leagues, certainly an interesting and joined up option to fit with Nagelsmann.

Sounds awesome, not heard of him until yesterday. I think DoF is probably more important than manager to get right. We may get a temporary shot in the arm from the manager but the right DoF would allow for us to build progressively through cycles. I'm sure we would all love the 5 year project coming to fruition but the DoF should eliminate the need for projects and instead be about making the best move possible one after another continuously regardless of who comes and goes. I'd rather we just smash both choices though :LOL:
 

Yiddo100

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Find it crazy how £10m seems a hefty fee to have to pay for a manager, when you consider £10m would probably not even get a good championship player nowadays.

Think of how much a manager can change the whole club, it seems a small price to pay imo.
 

Fredo

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Find it crazy how £10m seems a hefty fee to have to pay for a manager, when you consider £10m would probably not even get a good championship player nowadays.

Think of how much a manager can change the whole club, it seems a small price to pay imo.
yeah thats nothing, matt law just trying to make something of nothing
 

HedgieSpur

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Look at their possession in the CL group stage and against Scum in the Europa. They had lower possession average than both us and Marseille in the group stage.

It is very easy to have possession in Portugal if you are Benfica, Porto or Sporting.

I stand by what I said, if you watch them closely they are very similar to us under Conte, they just have more smaller and technical players who make it look better aesthetically.

He shouldn’t be on our list.

I can't be bothered to type it out again but I did an in depth post on Amorim's style. Another poster based in Portugal also did an even more in depth post. We both watch a LOT of Portuguese football and said the same thing i.e. that Amorim is not a defensive coach nor do his teams play like Conte.

Everyone of course is entitled to their opinion, but I'd caution basing it off raw possession stats and/or watching a few matches.
 

easley91

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I think Nagelsmann (and others) are waiting for the DOF hiring before committing. Which is completely understandable.
 

SandroClegane

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Find it crazy how £10m seems a hefty fee to have to pay for a manager, when you consider £10m would probably not even get a good championship player nowadays.

Think of how much a manager can change the whole club, it seems a small price to pay imo.

I think we're going to continue to see articles like this from reporters that aren't getting information, they have to put something out there of why it's taking so long.

It's definitely not as prohibitive of a number as guys like Matt Law and others are making it seem.

Feels like this is more Nagelsmann taking his time than us not willing to pay the fee.
 

Albertbarich

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If there is anyone at Spurs giving Matt Law info is suggest they be sacked. I'd also suggest we can him from the ground

The anti spurs agenda he has grates me and usually I don't care about journalists.
 

Scot-Spur

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Levy will pay, he doesn’t scrimp on managers in fairness. Also multiple people have said the compensation won’t be an issue.
 

rossdapep

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Find it crazy how £10m seems a hefty fee to have to pay for a manager, when you consider £10m would probably not even get a good championship player nowadays.

Think of how much a manager can change the whole club, it seems a small price to pay imo.

To be honest this opinion seems to come from the media rather than clubs. Probably cause you can't sell a coach and get that money back that way.

I think clubs won't scoff at paying 10-20m for a coach if they are really convinced.
 

tony0379

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Find it crazy how £10m seems a hefty fee to have to pay for a manager, when you consider £10m would probably not even get a good championship player nowadays.

Think of how much a manager can change the whole club, it seems a small price to pay imo.

Levy never seems to have a problem paying compensation though
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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To be honest this opinion seems to come from the media rather than clubs. Probably cause you can't sell a coach and get that money back that way.

I think clubs won't scoff at paying 10-20m for a coach if they are really convinced.

I'm guessing our net spend budget excluding Kulu / Porro to be somewhere around £50m without CL.

It's still not an easy market to sell players on our wages outside the PL.

So £10-20m out of our budget may not be prohibitive, but it's not inconsiderable.

There would be a knock on effect on transfer targets.

We'd be wise to put some pressure back on Bayern to haggle that down.
 

easley91

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Find it crazy how £10m seems a hefty fee to have to pay for a manager, when you consider £10m would probably not even get a good championship player nowadays.

Think of how much a manager can change the whole club, it seems a small price to pay imo.

We had Mourinho and Conte. He'll pay what's needed.
 

Guntz

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I'm guessing our net spend budget excluding Kulu / Porro to be somewhere around £50m without CL.

It's still not an easy market to sell players on our wages outside the PL.

So £10-20m out of our budget may not be prohibitive, but it's not inconsiderable.

There would be a knock on effect on transfer targets.

We'd be wise to put some pressure back on Bayern to haggle that down.

It will definitely be more than that.
 
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