Next Manager Watch

[Spursmatty87]

I want this Conte project to keep going. I think he could be really special here. We quite literally can not get anyone better than him.

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

TBF I can see any one of Nagelsmann, Tuchel or Poch being appointed if Conte departs. I think Levy has been clever and left his options open transfer wise - both Porro and Danjuma are loans (Porro option to buy) so we've not really spent any money in January which means a new manager in the summer is not stuck with two fresh players he doesn't fancy.

I'm sure I read that Spurs have an obligation to buy Porro on July 1.

 

[HedgieSpur]

I'm sure I read that Spurs have an obligation to buy Porro on July 1.

Correct, it’s an obligation to buy.

 

[Harrier]

Maybe if we have to embark on a new project - Kompany should be in the conversation for how he has Burnley playing.

Haven’t witnessed this in a football environment, but having worked in various man management roles over the years this style of stick over carrot is very old hat.

In my experience if it’s the default style, it just leads to resentment in the long term.

 

[the lad]

The fact we have this thread says everything about Tottenham Hotspur Football Club at this time - Pathetic.

 

[Harrier]

The fact we have this thread says everything about Tottenham Hotspur Football Club at this time - Pathetic.

Hardly, when his contract expires in a few months and it’s a very real possibility he won’t renew.

Isn’t discussion the whole point of a forum like this?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

There's probably better coaches out there but I think he might be the best fit for ENIC ownership and likely wouldn't rip things up and shift us back to a back 4. We have to get a coach in who will blood the youngsters, it's the only way we will get success whilst keeping transfer spend under a certain level.

I expect Levy massively regrets not moving for Ten Hag, he would have fitted us like a glove.

I agree there is certainly a great deal of logical sense behind getting him especially if QSI come in as they are supposedly fans. My personal issue is that for me he’s not a big enough step away from the the defensive style of play we have become so accustomed to over the last few years. I know he isn’t as near as reserved as Conte or Jose but he isn’t ultra attacking ether. Personally I’d like a clean break and go for someone like Gallardo or Nagelsmann if he becomes available. I’m also just not a fan of 3 at the back formations and never have been.

But like you say, there would be sense in going to him after Conte.

And obviously I would love Conte to stay but personally I just don’t see it happening.

 

[Metalhead]

Hardly, when his contract expires in a few months and it’s a very real possibility he won’t renew.

Isn’t discussion the whole point of a forum like this?

He might be talking about the situation rather than the thread.

 

[Metalhead]

There's probably better coaches out there but I think he might be the best fit for ENIC ownership and likely wouldn't rip things up and shift us back to a back 4. We have to get a coach in who will blood the youngsters, it's the only way we will get success whilst keeping transfer spend under a certain level.

I expect Levy massively regrets not moving for Ten Hag, he would have fitted us like a glove.

Would we necessarily be much better off? Ten Hag will still want backing and I could just as easily see it as having gone wrong if he didn't get the players he wanted.

 

[SpursJord]

Is he that good a coach then, I wouldn't say he's exactly pulling up trees in Portugal this season.

I mean he isn't all that bad in my opinion, he becomes such a good fit because like Conte he utilizes the 352 343 systems. He went from Braga B to Braga and led them to win Taça da Liga. He left that summer and went to Sporting where they won Primeira Liga (they hadn't won this since 2001/2002 season either), Taça da Liga & Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira. Losing only once in the league and that was the 2nd from last game to Benfica away 4-3. They only lost 3 games in total that season. After 139 Games with Sporting he is accumulating 2.16ppm also which is a solid amount.

Is he the answer for us? Would it work? Who knows?! Definitely a standout Head Coach for his age.

He lost some crucial players in the summer also by the way. Add Porro to that now.

 

[jimbo]

Nagelsmann can also set up in a 3-4-3 but is more tactically flexible, his base formation at Bayern is more 4-2-3-1 AFAIK.

I think he would probably need substantial investment in the squad to get enough technical players to be able to make his adjustments. His CBs, whether in a 2 or a 3 need to be comfortable on the ball.

We’re probably going to need that anyway though, if we’re ever going to do anything.

 

[the lad]

Hardly, when his contract expires in a few months and it’s a very real possibility he won’t renew.

Isn’t discussion the whole point of a forum like this?

I am talking about the situation we find ourselves in yet again, not the content of the discussion thread.
The fact that someone of his quality looks very, very unlikely to renew after the end of this season shows our club in a pathetic light. IMO

Of course the point of this site is discussion, I was adding my opinion to the discussion.

 

[Spartan Spurs]

If it must continue to be under this ENIC regime then it has to be a coach that will work with youth and improve players. I would also like to see us play that high press, quick tempo football again as opposed to a defensive team that plays on the counter all the time.

^^^This

Expansive spending is not going to happen with ENIC.

I started supporting Spurs in the late 70's b/c they played attacking style football with some flair.
As I've said numerous times before, it appeared that those sides would rather win 5 - 4 than 1 - nil.
We may not have won all the time but it certainly made watching them far more enjoyable.

There are different business models to choose from but if ENIC is still around its very evident they're averse to free spending (on the pitch).
In fairness to Levy & ENIC, they have tried opening their wallet a little more of late but Levy's hand has seemingly started shaking pulling any more large notes out. I sense a reluctance to continue spending huge sums on one player.

Anyway, for the model quoted above, first & foremost, Spurs would require a manager who's tactically well versed & has the flexibility to incorporate both youth & versatile formations.
Someone with the ability to recognize & implement change in & out of matches.
Someone to "truly" embrace this so called "Spurs DNA".

Secondly, & equally as important, we'd need a vast scouting network similar to Campos' who is now at PSG. They have to identify these diamonds in the rough early & before their value skyrockets.
Then for a technical staff to refine them & give them an opportunity.

Thirdly, players need to play with confidence AND the freedom to express themselves. These last number of years during Nuno, Mou, & AC, they seem to be playing within themselves as if they were shackled & afraid to make a mistake. Mistakes happen & that's OK as long as the intent is correct. These players need to know they have the manager's backing. Have a willingness to play high tempo, on the front foot, with the ball.

The game is much more enjoyable to watch &/or play when you have the ball.

Just my .02

 

[WiganSpur]

I agree there is certainly a great deal of logical sense behind getting him especially if QSI come in as they are supposedly fans. My personal issue is that for me he’s not a big enough step away from the the defensive style of play we have become so accustomed to over the last few years. I know he isn’t as near as reserved as Conte or Jose but he isn’t ultra attacking ether. Personally I’d like a clean break and go for someone like Gallardo or Nagelsmann if he becomes available. I’m also just not a fan of 3 at the back formations and never have been.

But like you say, there would be sense in going to him after Conte.

And obviously I would love Conte to stay but personally I just don’t see it happening.

Top priority has to be someone who has a track record of bringing through youth talent and improving young talent like Sarr, Gil, Udogie etc. Because any manager who can't do that won't work under Levy. Then i'd agree you need fan patience on top of that if possible which means a more front foot style. I don't know of any available coaches who'd fit those parameters though, whilst giving us a degree of continuity like Amorim would. He would be a stable and solid appointment imo.

Didn't Nagelsmann play a back 3 at Leipzig? He's probably up near the top of the list if available. I'd still give Graham Potter a lot of consideration too, can see it crashing and burning at Chelsea before too long but doesn't make him a bad coach. He would do better here steadily building with 3 signings a season. He's also got a good record of extracting results from limited resources.

Just pray it's not Tuchel. The best coach of the lot of course but it would be an unmitigated disaster with Levy at the helm.

 

[WiganSpur]

Nagelsmann can also set up in a 3-4-3 but is more tactically flexible, his base formation at Bayern is more 4-2-3-1 AFAIK.

I think he would probably need substantial investment in the squad to get enough technical players to be able to make his adjustments. His CBs, whether in a 2 or a 3 need to be comfortable on the ball.

We’re probably going to need that anyway though, if we’re ever going to do anything.

I imagine a coach like Nagelsmann might get a tune out of Rodon but other than that he'd need defenders. I think any coach who came here would.

 

[Harrier]

I am talking about the situation we find ourselves in yet again, not the content of the discussion thread.
The fact that someone of his quality looks very, very unlikely to renew after the end of this season shows our club in a pathetic light. IMO

Of course the point of this site is discussion, I was adding my opinion to the discussion.

Fairy muff, but there’s also a very real possibility that events in his personal life could have had a huge impact on his decision making process as far as continuing with us.

 

[WiganSpur]

I really want Conte to stay as I think that's the key to us being successful. If he does go we are going to see another season of 'rebuilding' and Kane will likely follow.

So if that were to happen, my choice would have to be Poch. I get what people say, hes recruitment was not the best and he does have hes floors. I would have liked more of the 'old guard' gone before he's return as well.

Positives, we played some of the best football for 2 years. I'd like to see what he could do with Spence, Udogie, Bissouma, Skipp and Sarr.

I just want to see some entertainment back and that 'feel good' factor to return.

It won't work, especially after the novelty wears off. He improves players sure but his record with academy players was abysmal and he caused a lot of lasting damage in that department. He will want signings he's just not going to get.

Maybe if we have to embark on a new project - Kompany should be in the conversation for how he has Burnley playing.

Unfortunately Levy is too much of a clown to even think about it, and Kompany is a smart bloke. Not even sure he would take it.

 

[newbie]

You know we have a really good manager, who’s had a shit year, how about we back him. If he stays with a few top players added we could be powerful.

 

[Albertbarich]

Nagelsmann can also set up in a 3-4-3 but is more tactically flexible, his base formation at Bayern is more 4-2-3-1 AFAIK.

I think he would probably need substantial investment in the squad to get enough technical players to be able to make his adjustments. His CBs, whether in a 2 or a 3 need to be comfortable on the ball.

We’re probably going to need that anyway though, if we’re ever going to do anything.

I remember someone asking him why he played a certain way and he said he saw Liverpool ( I think) do it so he just got videos and copied it ?, always made me laugh but I'm butchering the story

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

De Zerbi or Poch after Conte please.