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daveduvet

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I’ve always wanted potter. BUT I’ve come to realise that he did well at Brighton because, most likely, the club is run with a coherent plan in place; hence, they’re doing well with their new fella, Potter is not succeeding at Chelsea. The same might be said of Brentford & their manager: plan in place. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the brighton & Brentford chairmen are business partners - so I was informed yesterday …
I’ve now reneged on my wanting potter and fancy Poch with a player buying team/dof. ..
Im not particularly ‘up’ on the skill sets of many other managers, so am open to be convinced about other coaches who could benefit us
 

bceej

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I think I'd like to see Gallardo if the poll options are the ones available.
I live in Arg and support River Plate, so I know him very well.

He likes fast offensive football, and relies a lot in counter-pressing so I think he'd fit right in with our fanbase.
His weak point is defense. If the pressing fails, defense gets exposed. The way he plays demands a top keeper, which Hugo is not anymore.
But his strengths are a lot more important that this weakness. Over 8 years at River Plate, he's managed to build cohesive teams almost every year. And that is in a league where the top players leave every year. I'd say 2 out of the top 3 players were sold each year. Making this feat more impressive. With so many changes through the years he's had the need to be pragmatic and that is reflected in how he used different systems throughout the years. All of them without resigning his attacking idea.
One distinctive thing that is not in the articles they wrote about him, is that he values intelligence a lot more than any other player characteristic. His midfield is more about positioning and quick thinking than about speed or strength. Maybe this can be a problem in the PL at the beginning, but once his teams gel together it's a game changer.
He's also a great motivator, and values a lot the work of sports psychology. Every River players that left the club spoke about how important the psychologist was for them.
I've read messages worried about language. I honestly don't know if he can speak english, but he's a very smart man and would surely learn quickly enough. He does speak french though.
Sounds like a future fit for Barcelona. Would love us to be a constant, dynamic threat in attack - surely if he was ever to be appointed the number one signing would be an elite sweeper keeper, which I guess would not be the profile of Hugo’s successor? Would love him to come in here, at some point.
 

rossdapep

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I wouldn't take Potter now if he was to become available.

Not because he's at Chelsea but because the timing would be appalling.

It took Brighton a little while before they built some form of consistency under him and they'd often play well but get beat.

I think he's a coach that needs A LOT of time.
 

Matrix

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I think I'm going the other way. If Conte signed a new contract I think I'd let out a sigh, with the thought that:

1. We won't buy sufficiently as needed with him at the helm regardless.
2. The thought that the football won't change as much as we'd like and it will continue to be a hard watch.
3. We'd continue to see no desire for any sort of creative player, even for a plan B.
4. A continued reluctance to use youth and overly play certain players.
5. Repeatedly allowing 'lesser' teams to control proceedings against us.
6. Often looking completely clueless as to how to construct attacks and create anything, unless it's on the counter.
7. Being for the most part completely tied into one formation, even when it's not working.

I just feel like it's so much to commit to and almost sacrifice with not the greatest of signs that it will all be worth it. I also acknowledge that the flip side is that we could be 4th by the end of day, possibly in the quarter finals of the CL come the end of March 8th and this is with glaring issues in the squad still. Despite this I find it hard to be greatly encouraged when I watch us play.

I know there are underlying issues that need to be addressed irrespective of who's manager but these are the things I personally find to be of great frustration.
I agree that the stubbornness is a major issue with Conte.
All really good points.
 

Snarfalicious

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I want a manager we can build around. One that has a clear vision and we are in agreement in actualizing that vision. A manager that will give youth a chance (within reason), and be willing to axe the senior members deemed not good enough. I’d like to see a pressing style of play, with a focus on attacking intent but also versatility in approach and formations all based around domination of possession and Uber work ethic. If a player can’t get behind that, there’s the door. Also, they must wear a suit.

That’s it, that’s all I want.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I’ve always wanted potter. BUT I’ve come to realise that he did well at Brighton because, most likely, the club is run with a coherent plan in place; hence, they’re doing well with their new fella, Potter is not succeeding at Chelsea. The same might be said of Brentford & their manager: plan in place. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the brighton & Brentford chairmen are business partners - so I was informed yesterday …
I’ve now reneged on my wanting potter and fancy Poch with a player buying team/dof. ..
Im not particularly ‘up’ on the skill sets of many other managers, so am open to be convinced about other coaches who could benefit us
I think Potter is still a good Manager, he’s barely had any time at Chelsea and 100 new players so it’ll take time, there are signs of improvement recently but you’re right the aligned set-ups at Brighton & Brentford make it easier for their managers to do a good job.

You could also argue that like Thomas Frank at Brentford, Potter helped set the foundations at Brighton and De Zebri is just carrying that on.
 

mr ashley

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I think Potter is still a good Manager, he’s barely had any time at Chelsea and 100 new players so it’ll take time, there are signs of improvement recently but you’re right the aligned set-ups at Brighton & Brentford make it easier for their managers to do a good job.

You could also argue that like Thomas Frank at Brentford, Potter helped set the foundations at Brighton and De Zebri is just carrying that on.
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rossdapep

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I'm surprised that Luis Enrique isn't talked about more and should be part of the list.
Its a good question.

I suppose his Spain team didnt really show enough but then again his attacking options were hardly prolific enough.

But at the same time, his Barca team had an incredible frontline, so where does the truth lie with him?

All possession but no substance?

Or an excellent pass and movement patterns but a lack of real reliable attacking players to finish it off?
 

Aay_Jay_Dee

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I think I'd like to see Gallardo if the poll options are the ones available.
I live in Arg and support River Plate, so I know him very well.

He likes fast offensive football, and relies a lot in counter-pressing so I think he'd fit right in with our fanbase.
His weak point is defense. If the pressing fails, defense gets exposed. The way he plays demands a top keeper, which Hugo is not anymore.
But his strengths are a lot more important that this weakness. Over 8 years at River Plate, he's managed to build cohesive teams almost every year. And that is in a league where the top players leave every year. I'd say 2 out of the top 3 players were sold each year. Making this feat more impressive. With so many changes through the years he's had the need to be pragmatic and that is reflected in how he used different systems throughout the years. All of them without resigning his attacking idea.
One distinctive thing that is not in the articles they wrote about him, is that he values intelligence a lot more than any other player characteristic. His midfield is more about positioning and quick thinking than about speed or strength. Maybe this can be a problem in the PL at the beginning, but once his teams gel together it's a game changer.
He's also a great motivator, and values a lot the work of sports psychology. Every River players that left the club spoke about how important the psychologist was for them.
I've read messages worried about language. I honestly don't know if he can speak english, but he's a very smart man and would surely learn quickly enough. He does speak french though.
Who do you think would thrive from our current team in Gallardos formations? Would Kane even work in his teams?
 

Ossie85

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Who do you think would thrive from our current team in Gallardos formations? Would Kane even work in his teams?
Kane can work in any formation. He would have to press though. I think more that Harry it's Son and Richarlison the forwards who would have to change their style a bit. He would demand from them constant pressing to the defenders

Who would thrive the most? Probably Bentancur and Hojberg. And I think he would try and complement that midfield with a creative mid. Someone like James Maddison for example. He likes to use creative attacking midfielers in a deeper role. I believe it's because he thinks it's easier to teach pressing and tackling to a creative mid, than creativity and vertical passing to a center mid

I'm sure this video has been shared before, but this is a very good and accurate representation of how he likes to play
 
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