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[chas vs dave]

Nagelsmann is on 7m per annum. We could pay him 10m, settle conte for 4m and save money. Right up Daniels Street

 

[Clockspur]

I’m really excited at the prospect of Nagalsman, especially if he signs a 5 year deal, but my god the fan base will need to be patient! It will take a few windows for him to build the spurs team in his vision so nobody can’t expect miracles. We stick with him through his tenure and back him with our support no matter how bad the result is.

And right there is the flaw in the plan - Conte got us 4th after taking over when we were 9th and a shambles and we’re still 4th at the moment.

God help Nigel if we finish 5th next year

 

[mattspur1986]

Reliably informed he still has our 05/06 away kit hanging up in his bedroom.....

Number 37 after his favourite player Lee Barnard of course.

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Seems legit

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

So, what’s going on?

Due dilligence

 

[sidford]

So, what’s going on?

Well I've woken up feeling a bit seedy, good night out last night with missus though and even ended up with me having a fumble so all in all pretty good. What about you?

 

[Ashesmod]

People saying that fans will be up in arms in a year when we finish 6th 7th 8th is rubbish. I firmly believe that is Conte had signed a three year deal at any point in the last year fans would be behind him. The problems have all stemmed from his attitude to the club.

Whoever the new manager is, will be given time now I believe and I think with the right appointment we would be able to see the sun on the horizon

 

[JCRD]

I’m really excited at the prospect of Nagalsman, especially if he signs a 5 year deal, but my god the fan base will need to be patient! It will take a few windows for him to build the spurs team in his vision so nobody can’t expect miracles. We stick with him through his tenure and back him with our support no matter how bad the result is.

I know the evidence in the last two managers isnt there but I do think we would be patient with a coach we believe would be committed to the cause and have the philosophy of playing good football.

If Conte was committed, if there was a semblance that he would be the one, if there was an identity on the pitch that was working - we would be patient. We have been patient previously.

There will always be a select few who arent patient but i think the next coach, if teh right appointment eg a Poch, a Nagelsmann, RDZ, Gallardo - we as a collective fan base would be patient. But you cant be a manager 18 months down the line and still toying with the idea of staying or not and having us play some negative football.

 

[Athenspur]

I have a horrible feeling about Nagelsmann. The man is a very good manager but also a clown. Just Google translate this and read it:

https://www.sdna.gr/podosfairo/1067156_tin-royfiania-polloi-agapisan-ton-royfiano-oydeis

 

[EastLondonYid]

To be fair we fired Nuno and appointed Conte sharpish.

Also it’s a little easier when you’re Bayern Munich and are happy to write off a hefty chunk of change. Plus Tuchel was out of a job for a while, and has a house in Munich, it was pretty easy once they made the decision.

Even if we made the decision immediately to ask Nagelsmann, he might feel too raw to make that decision right now, ditto other managerial targets might not want to leave their current clubs until summer.

let’s be honest, the only two names which were “easier” are/were Poch and Tuchel. Tuchel we were in talks with but Bayern swooped in and clearly we aren’t 100% convinced at board level that Poch’s time to return is now.

Why is it easier for Bayern?
Financially we are in a different universe,
Their average season tickets and ticket prices are a fraction of ours.
The German TV money is a fraction of ours.
Their prize money is a fraction of ours.
Their wage bill however is very high considering all of the above.
I presume you mean financially when you say they are happy to write off a hefty chunk of change?
Correct me if I'm wrong

So why is it easier for Bayern?
It's only easier because they are a well run club on and off the pitch who have people in charge who have a plan, a strategy ,a philosophy,an identity.
We have none of the above.
Everything is off the cuff, and why we are where we are in footballing terms, off the pitch we are fantastic, footballing wise we are severely lacking.

 

[robin09]

I don't know much about Nagelsman, just like I don't know much about the players we are linked to from foreign leagues each window.

But I just can't help get caught up in the mass positivity, I'm refreshing twitter desperate for new updates as though THIS is the crucial piece. Just like I thought Soldado was, and Conte, and.....

 

[Riandor]

Why is it easier for Bayern?
Financially we are in a different universe,
Their average season tickets and ticket prices are a fraction of ours.
The German TV money is a fraction of ours.
Their prize money is a fraction of ours.
Their wage bill however is very high considering all of the above.
I presume you mean financially when you say they are happy to write off a hefty chunk of change?
Correct me if I'm wrong

So why is it easier for Bayern?
It's only easier because they are a well run club on and off the pitch who have people in charge who have a plan, a strategy ,a philosophy,an identity.
We have none of the above.
Everything is off the cuff, and why we are where we are in footballing terms, off the pitch we are fantastic, footballing wise we are severely lacking.

Uhhh their revenue was over 600million last year, 200 more than ours and they are debt free. So yes financially and as a football power.

Managers are much more likely to want to manage Bayern than us, especially a German manager.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

No Walker and Toby stopped being picked they were being forced out. On the cups you probably right, i just keep remembering his interviews and saying rhe PL is the main prize and I kept thinking win a trophy mate get this team into that habit and the PL will come.

Yeah let him go to Madrid or wherever come back in 3 years or so.

How exactly was Walker "forced out"?

Poch was alternating between Walker/Trippier and Rose/Davies that season, to keep the players fresh and enable us to compete on four fronts (WB in Poch's system was a very physically demanding position). Walker played over twice as much as Trippier. He may have been unhappy that he wasn't starting every game, but he started a large majority of PL games - even after telling the manager he wants to leave.

He openly told Poch that he intended to leave in the summer - mid-season (April), while we were challenging to win the PL title (we finished 2nd), and with over 2 years left on his contract. I believe he was left out of the team for one or two games immediately after dropping that bombshell (circa April). That was extremely unprofessional from Walker, when he could easily have put the team first and saved that conversation until the summer...then have departed without causing unrest in the middle of a title-race.

Poch's version of events:
“Leaving out a regular always wounds them, creating a rift between them and the coaching staff that can be very difficult to heal. Walker had just played back-to-back games for the national team. Our first match after his return was against Burnley. We played Swansea on the Wednesday and Walker started, Trippier came back into the team to face Watford on the Saturday and was man of the match. Walker came to my office after the Watford game,
'Gaffer, I've been at Tottenham for nine years. I've thought about it and my heart isn't here any more, nor is my head. I've given all I have to give. I wanted to tell you before I tell my agent that I want to leave this summer.'
'Kyle, you have to stay professional, there's a month and a half to go. We're battling for the Premier League and FA Cup. We have to be focused and finish the campaign strongly.'
'OK, gaffer. But it's already decided.'
'Well, that doesn't just depend on you or me. It depends on the club, above all. You've disappointed me because you've decided to tell me that you want to leave when there is a month and bit left in the competition. You could've sucked it up, kept quiet, trained, played and helped the team when not picked... and at the end of the season you could have come and told me.'
I considered it to be an alarming lack of respect for his team-mates and a slap in the face for the club, none of that could be explained to the public at the time.”

Under plenty of other managers (e.g. Fergie), he would never have worn the shirt again.

 

[pal90]

Why is it easier for Bayern?
Financially we are in a different universe,
Their average season tickets and ticket prices are a fraction of ours.
The German TV money is a fraction of ours.
Their prize money is a fraction of ours.
Their wage bill however is very high considering all of the above.
I presume you mean financially when you say they are happy to write off a hefty chunk of change?
Correct me if I'm wrong

So why is it easier for Bayern?
It's only easier because they are a well run club on and off the pitch who have people in charge who have a plan, a strategy ,a philosophy,an identity.
We have none of the above.
Everything is off the cuff, and why we are where we are in footballing terms, off the pitch we are fantastic, footballing wise we are severely lacking.

Actually Bayern have the highest commercial revenue (sponsorships, etc.) of any club anywhere See here. Their total turnover (2021/2) of €666 million is higher than ours (£444 million / € 500 million).

But yes, they are well run etc. I'm sure the 75% fan ownership plays a decent part in that.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Uhhh their revenue was over 600million last year, 200 more than ours and they are debt free. So yes financially and as a football power.

Managers are much more likely to want to manage Bayern than us, especially a German manager.

Fair enough regards the finance, but we are still a financial monster,money shouldn't be the reason we operate so badly.
German coaches will ofc opt for Bayern, that wasn't my argument.
My argument was we fanny about with every decision.

 

[Riandor]

Fair enough regards the finance, but we are still a financial monster,money shouldn't be the reason we operate so badly.
German coaches will ofc opt for Bayern, that wasn't my argument.
My argument was we fanny about with every decision.

Yes, that much is very true and that’s because historically we have not been able to “afford” mistakes.

Chelsea, Man City, Bayern can afford to sign players or managers who don’t work and bin them because money is less of an object.

We still don’t behave like this despite increased revenue.

 

[Finchyid]

So, what’s going on?

Nothing

 

[The Scarecrow]

Likewise. Steve Cooper had less resources and did better than him with Swansea.

De Zerbi has come in and taken Brighton to another level.

Remember Southampton's first season under Koeman?

 

[Trix]

You can't blame the press when the Club's stance is to say fuck all.

Sorry so if the club says nothing, it's ok for the press to make things up?

 

[Styopa]

And right there is the flaw in the plan - Conte got us 4th after taking over when we were 9th and a shambles and we’re still 4th at the moment.

God help Nigel if we finish 5th next year

The critical issue is not finishing fourth next season. Not for most fans anyway. Maybe for Levy it is.

Most fans will accept finishing fifth if there is a long term vision and the team are showing signs of playing decent football. Fans will get behind a project as long as they see proper signs of progress and believe the coach is committed to that project.

 

[bubble07]

I have a horrible feeling about Nagelsmann. The man is a very good manager but also a clown. Just Google translate this and read it:

https://www.sdna.gr/podosfairo/1067156_tin-royfiania-polloi-agapisan-ton-royfiano-oydeis

Yea this screams red flag