Next Manager Watch

[dontcallme]

We won 2 trophies in the 90s.

And do we look back on that period fondly? No, it was shit.

Great seeing individual players like Gazza, Klinsmann and Ginola but it was still shit.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

It’s a win win for levy though. No fans will boo or moan at Mason at least for a very long time

I think it will be the complete opposite. The minute he looses a few games in a row, which will happen, doubt will creep in. This isn’t just the next manager appointment, this is the culmination of 5 years of board mismanagement. The fans have had enough. Whatever love Mason is getting now will be gone in an instant when fans start to think that maybe he isn’t up to the job considering his massive lack of experience.

This is a complete different situation to Edu and Arteta at Arsenal. There would be no vision behind appointing Mason, we don’t even have a DoF at the moment.

 

[Timberwolf]

Whoever comes in will need time and patience; whether the fans are excited or not shouldn’t really be considered. We were all excited (well, I’m sure most) when Conte was appointed.

This is what worries me about someone like Slot or Postecoglou. They won’t get time, and because fans feel we should have appointed Nagelsmann or Pochettino, it’ll be over before it began.

I know we’re tired of the comparison, but if Arsenal had pulled the trigger on Arteta when fans were screaming for him to be sacked, they’d be considering Bielsa right about now.

Yeah teething problems are likely - you only have to look at Ten Hag getting destroyed 4-0 by Brentford in his second game to see that.

You'd hope that after a few years of cautious, negative football if Slot (or whoever) can at least show signs of positivity in our play they will get a bit more time from the fans if the results are inconsistent.

I think the main reason Nuno was gone so very quickly was because there were zero signs whatsoever of positivity or improvement - it just all felt utterly wrong and hopeless.

 

[dontcallme]

I think it will be the complete opposite. The minute he looses a few games in a row, which will happen, doubt will creep in. This isn’t just the next manager appointment, this is the culmination of 5 years of board mismanagement. The fans have had enough. Whatever love Mason is getting now will be gone in an instant when fans start to think that maybe he isn’t up to the job considering his massive lack of experience.

This is a complete different situation to Edu and Arteta at Arsenal. There would be no vision behind appointing Mason, we don’t even have a DoF at the moment.

Agree. It doesn't take much to go from hottest young manager to he's out of his depth.

At best he might not get hatred if results go bad. But fans will want him out as quickly as anyone else if not going well.

 

[Bubble44]

And do we look back on that period fondly? No, it was shit.

Great seeing individual players like Gazza, Klinsmann and Ginola but it was still shit.

Like now then

 

[Ghost Hardware]

If Levy is really placing the next manager of our club on the next 3 games (appointing Mason) then he is even more out of his depth in the footballing realm than we thought.

TBH that is completely the kind of thing he’d do no? At this point everyone knows he is completely out of his depths. How many times do we need to witness him making the same mistakes in order to realise he actually has no clue what he’s doing when it comes to football.

 

[Albertbarich]

Here's my issue.

You can trot out the usual defence of Levy, or the typical knocking of passionate fans because you're sick of people overeating but there are facts here and whether you want to join up some dots or not it should worry you .

This board and chairman have got nearly every decision wrong since they started building the stadium. They screwed over and broke thier best ever manager, appointed the wrong guy 24 hours later and then pissed him off by not backing him the way everyone but seemingly them knew he would demand to be backed and then sacked him a few days before a cup final...

They then undertook the most absurd manager search I've ever seen (I know they're getting ready to say hold me beer) , dragged the clubs name through the sewer and ended up with a bloke totally out of his depth and Ill suited to the club and the fans, of course he last a few months and the chairman had to overide his DOF and promise Conte the guy they could have gotten originally the world.

So a another brave new start which of course ended in disaster. Now you can blame Conte for plenty (I do) and you can say we had terrible luck (I do) but there is no doubt the boards failure to once again back a manager played a part in his throwing a tantrum, something that they should have known he was likely to do if he didn't get his own way.

And before I get to present day whilst this was going on we had another farce as they backed and tried to ignore all the legal proceedings of the DOF who had been here two minutes.

So get to present day. They would have known or at least had a really really good idea that Conte was gone since January. They have clearly done zero forward planning. They should have known since god knows how long Paratici was gone or very likely to go and again no forward planning. But here we are a million miles away to appointing a manager and no DoF still. It's a shambles. Successful clubs dont operate like this but we make excuse after excuse .

You may not have wanted Nagelsmann but he was by far the best candidate and he fell into their lap. What I liked about him was the ability to play an attacking 3 at the back or a 4 but after spending so much on wingbacks I think it sensible to get someone who plays 3 don't you? We have seen the damage Porro can do in a bad way at full back.

But he has said no and this is why it should concern you . If a manager with no other options says no because he doesn't like the direction of the club why do you think others won't? Slot who not only plays a system ill suited our squad but he is at the top of his game and won't only get one offer? He isn't an idiot and won't want to walk into a job where he is destined to fail, you think De Zerbi is going to throw away his cushy Brighton number if he isn't happy with the conditions here? Same as Amorim and Alonso. These people aren't idiots, we could easily end up in a Nuno situation if the chairman hasn't learned his lesson which it looks like he hasn't

So we can easily see a situation where Mason gets it and he might do fine but he won't be getting it because he is the best man for the job. And that's worrying. This chairman treats the club like it's the biggest in the world in every facet except the actual football where he stumbles from one thing to another so that he keeps his power.

 

[MindOverMatter]

If Levy really liked Tottenham as much as he says he would leave knowing he is the problem.

Even if there was 1% chance to get JN we should have just pushed hard for him simple as. Okay even with that he may not have come, but why would you gamble on JM and AC and not JN that would potentially be the best manager to build a squad for us! He’s deluded and need to be out.

I’ll get some dislikes for this but… I don’t understand how there are some fans that I’ve met during games and on the train home after a loss thinking that levy isn’t the problem with us… those fans I’ve met week in week out think that he is our saviour… wtf can he save? His own paycheck? His own bonus? Stop thinking Levy is our saviour because he’s not! He’s a business man nothing more.
#LevyOut

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

From reading all of the reports, I think the main issue was that we want a different DOF to whoever Nagelsmann wanted.

I’d hazard a guess even that we have basically settled on who our DOF will be, and that’s why we were unwilling to change the full plan for Nagelsmann.

 

[DarwinSpur]

The main reasons I keep coming across is that he speaks well and he's one of our own.

I'm actually shocked at how low our expectations have got as fans.

We've just hired and sacked Conte and Mourinho. Apart from the Nuno aberration which was Paratici's fuck up, it's not like we haven't tried to hire managers with pedigree.

It's not "low expectation" - it's realizing through failure that perhaps a new direction is needed. Nagelsman wasn't that new direction however young he is.

FWIW I don't think Mason is ready and don't think we'll appoint him. But whoever we hire has to WANT TO MANAGE SPURS over and above any other criteria.

 

[Meercat]

One of the best things for me is my own lousy judgement when it comes to managers… I was mortified when we hired the original barrow boy himself, Harry Redknapp, and by the end of his tenure I loved his spurs and was genuinely shocked when he was fired. When looking for a new manager and the short list of five included the guy from Southampton who wouldn’t even speak English in press conferences, I was anyone but him, please… and god I loved the Poch Spurs when they were flying… and so on. Managers I’ve actually wanted have proved to be miserable choices. So now, I just sit back and enjoy the ride safe in the knowledge whoever I want will be useless and whoever I don’t want will likely get it and bring back exciting football, because I know nothing.

 

[Chris Flynn]

Next week 🫡

 

[PLTuck]

I'm looking forward to the game this aftenoon. Why? Because Ryan has already got us playing more front foot entertaining football. Not perfect by any means, it's still a process but he's had a very good first couple of weeks imo.

If the board want to give him the chance to continue that work next season over another expensive, high profile, possibly difficult to work with manager then I'm fully on board with that.

He would be more like our Arteta though and so the board (and fans) would need the bollocks to back him when we have inevitable sticky patches, which I have no faith in at all.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

From reading all of the reports, I think the main issue was that we want a different DOF to whoever Nagelsmann wanted.

I’d hazard a guess even that we have basically settled on who our DOF will be, and that’s why we were unwilling to change the full plan for Nagelsmann.

I agree with this.

 

[olithfc]

From reading all of the reports, I think the main issue was that we want a different DOF to whoever Nagelsmann wanted.

I’d hazard a guess even that we have basically settled on who our DOF will be, and that’s why we were unwilling to change the full plan for Nagelsmann.

I hope we don’t appoint the one from Roma. It feels like Levy has a preference in looking to Italy for these roles for some unknown reason

 

[dontcallme]

FWIW I don't think Mason is ready and don't think we'll appoint him. But whoever we hire has to WANT TO MANAGE SPURS over and above any other criteria.

For me, the way to get that is by hiring someone making a step up.

At the time of hiring Jol, Redknapp and Poch were all making steps up to manage us and I believe they really wanted to make a success of it here.

I want us to hire someone with that hunger.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

From reading all of the reports, I think the main issue was that we want a different DOF to whoever Nagelsmann wanted.

I’d hazard a guess even that we have basically settled on who our DOF will be, and that’s why we were unwilling to change the full plan for Nagelsmann.

Yeah it certainly seems it’s to do with the club vision not matching his. That probably entails the DoF’s we are looking at and quite possibly not matching the other “cast iron” demands he supposedly had. I don’t believe he wouldn’t be happy to wait for us to appoint a DoF as long as it was someone he liked.

He’s a man that has a very clear vision and if he thinks that we aren’t going to give him the environment in which he needs in order build his team and compete then of course he will and has walked away. Especially after what happened at BM you can see him being more carful of going to the right club that fits his ideology.

 

[Albertbarich]

From reading all of the reports, I think the main issue was that we want a different DOF to whoever Nagelsmann wanted.

I’d hazard a guess even that we have basically settled on who our DOF will be, and that’s why we were unwilling to change the full plan for Nagelsmann.

If so then why not just appoint the DOF and let him run the process. Much more believable that he might favour someone else than this nonsense they put out last night.

If only they had a PR expert on the board....

 

[only1waddle]

Ah yes Carlton. One of the thickest pundits ever to walk the earth. He makes Jermaine Pennant seem intelligent. What a plank. They just wheel him out for West Ham games to Make Joe Cole sound intelligent.

It was funny, not a reflection on his intelligence, not everything has to be so serious.

 

[ukdy]

Until the fans turn ugly on Levy, things will continue as they always have.

A conversation better suited for the 'ousting' thread but.....

What's your definition here? Uglier than a few banners and chants in the ground? How ugly and embarrassing do you want it for ENIC, and how much of shit show should our club be reduced to?

No fans at games? - won't happen? - look at the Glazier 'protests' and the Utd average attendances.
Fans breaking into the ground to protest like at Utd? - embarrassing AND won't happen!!

Throw rocks at Joe Lewis's yacht when he's in town?

We don't have a fan base like Utd and Liverpool. That's the fact. Protests at Tottenham will never be more than a few flag shaggers and vocals on Twatter and in the ground. That for me is enough to get the point across. Dangerous, newsworthy, 'ugly' - I'll pass.